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Thank you all for the helpful responses! This clarifies a lot. From what I understand, my wife will be able to claim spousal benefits (up to 50% of my benefit) but only after I file for my own retirement. And she'll qualify for Medicare at 65 through my work record. I'll definitely look into the timing carefully since I was planning to delay claiming until 70 for the increased benefit, but now I need to factor in when she should start receiving her spousal benefit. Might need to run some calculations to see what makes the most financial sense for our situation. Appreciate everyone's input and the tips about contacting SSA - will definitely help when we're ready to apply!

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You've got it right! One strategic consideration: If your wife needs benefits before you want to claim, you might look into a

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Based on the discussion so far, let me clarify the timing for your husband: - Born November 1958 - FRA = 66 years + 8 months = July 2025 - Apply online 3-4 months before benefits start - If starting at FRA in July 2025, apply in March/April 2025 Since his employer wants him to stay through 2025, he has excellent options: 1. He can reach FRA in July 2025, apply for benefits, AND continue working with no earnings limit penalties. 2. He could delay applying past FRA while working, earning delayed retirement credits of 8% per year (prorated monthly at 2/3% per month) until age 70. Option #2 could significantly increase his lifetime benefit if he has average or above-average life expectancy. Many financial advisors recommend this approach if you don't need the money immediately, especially for the higher-earning spouse.

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This makes perfect sense now. I thought the earnings limit would still apply even after FRA but I see that's not the case. Since he plans to work through December 2025 anyway, we'll definitely run the numbers to see if delaying makes sense. One final question - does he still need to sign up for Medicare at 65 even if he delays his SS retirement benefit?

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Yes, Medicare enrollment at 65 is separate from your Social Security retirement benefit decision. He should absolutely sign up for Medicare during his Initial Enrollment Period (3 months before his 65th birthday month, his birthday month, and 3 months after). Failing to enroll in Medicare Part B during this window can result in permanent late enrollment penalties, even if he's still working. However, if he has creditable employer health insurance from a company with 20+ employees, he can delay Medicare Part B enrollment without penalty until that coverage ends. He should still enroll in Medicare Part A at 65 though, as it's premium-free and can serve as secondary insurance to his employer coverage.

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Thank you so much! That's incredibly helpful. His company has over 500 employees so it sounds like we can safely delay Part B until his employer coverage ends. We'll make sure to enroll in Part A when he turns 65 this year. I really appreciate everyone's help in sorting this out!

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I just got my annual Social Security statement and had EXACTLY ZERO increase even though I worked all last year! Pretty sure this is related to the trust fund issues they're not telling us about. They can't afford to pay us what we deserve anymore!!

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Your annual benefit statement doesn't actually show these kinds of recalculations. The AERO process happens separately, and any increase would show up as a change in your monthly payment, not on your statement. The trust fund issues are real, but they're not affecting current benefit calculations.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! This makes a lot more sense now. I was expecting the same pattern of increases I saw before, but I didn't understand all the factors involved. Sounds like: 1. The recalculation only helps if my current earnings are replacing much lower earnings years 2. At my income level, additional earnings only impact benefits at 15% of the value 3. The October 2024 recalculation might still show a small increase from my 2023 earnings I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this. The Social Security system is so much more complicated than I realized!

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I kept working until 74 and my benefit went up about $175/month from when I was 70. But remember you're also paying FICA taxes on those earnings with no additional delayed retirement credits. Do the math for your situation to see if it makes financial sense.

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That's a significant increase! I hadn't thought about the continued FICA taxes - good point. In my case, I'm working because I enjoy it, so any benefit increase is just a bonus.

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After reading through all these comments, I just wanted to summarize the key points for anyone else with this question: 1. Yes, SSA continues to recalculate benefits based on new earnings AFTER age 70 2. Recalculations happen automatically, usually in October of the following year 3. You'll only see an increase if current earnings replace a lower year in your top 35 4. This is separate from delayed retirement credits, which stop at 70 5. The actual increase depends on your specific earnings history Hope that helps!

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Thank you for this clear summary! This thread has been incredibly helpful.

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As others have mentioned, your husband might be eligible for a spousal supplement if 50% of your PIA exceeds his own PIA. One more thing to consider—has your husband checked his earnings record on ssa.gov to make sure all his work years are correctly recorded? It's not uncommon to find errors, especially for jobs from many years ago. If he has 35+ years of work history, also consider whether his current earnings might be higher than some earlier years. Working even just a few more months could potentially increase his benefit if he's replacing a lower-earning year in his top 35.

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That's a great suggestion about checking his earnings record! We haven't done that recently, and his early work history included some small jobs that might not have been properly reported. We'll definitely take a look at his full record before he applies.

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I wish I could get a straight answer from SSA!!! Their website says one thing, the phone people say another, and then when you go to the office they tell you something completely different! No wonder we're all confused about what benefits we can get. The whole system needs to be simplified!!!

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Nia Davis

preach!!! 🙌 i spent 3 weeks trying to figure out my benefits. online calculator said one amount, then letter came with different amount, then first payment was third different amount! finally got it straight but what a headache

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One more important detail: When you're preparing your documentation, make sure it clearly shows that the vacation time was non-transferable. Meaning, you couldn't have chosen to take that vacation time in 2025 instead of getting it paid out. This helps establish that it truly was earned and attributable to 2024, not 2025. The SSA publication that addresses this is called "Special Payments After Retirement" (https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10063.pdf). I'd recommend having a copy of this with you when you talk to SSA representatives, as some of them may not be familiar with these rules.

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In my experience, the local field offices are hit-or-miss with understanding special payments. If you're getting nowhere, ask to speak with a Technical Expert (TE) - they generally have more specialized knowledge about these complex situations than the regular service representatives. Also, document EVERY interaction with SSA - date, time, who you spoke with, and what they told you. This was extremely valuable when I had to escalate my case after getting incorrect information multiple times.

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does your part time job affect your benefits? I thought theres some kind of earnings limit even after fra??

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Good question! There is an earnings limit if you're collecting benefits before your Full Retirement Age (FRA). However, once you reach your FRA, there is NO earnings limit - you can earn as much as you want without any reduction in benefits. Since the original poster is turning 67 (their FRA) in about 3 months, they would only be subject to the earnings limit for those remaining months of this year, and their part-time income of $15,000 annually likely wouldn't exceed the limit for just those few months.

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After reading all your helpful comments, I've decided I'll definitely switch to my own retirement benefit when I reach my FRA in 3 months. The math makes sense - getting that extra $700/month right away is better than waiting. And I'll continue my part-time job since I enjoy it and there's no earnings limit after FRA. I have an appointment scheduled with SSA next week to discuss the switch. Thanks everyone for your advice and sharing your experiences!

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Smart choice! Enjoy that extra money! 👍

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make sure u bring all ur documents for ur kid they r super picky and will make u come back if u forget anything

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Aaron Lee

I'm getting so many conflicting answers from SSA about this same issue! Last week one rep told me to apply for my son right away, this week another one says I need to wait. Does anyone know if there's a specific regulation or rule I can reference when I talk to them?

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Reference POMS GN 00204.030 regarding protective filing and dependent applications. Also, POMS RS 00202.001 covers who may receive child's benefits. Mentioning these specific program operations manual references sometimes helps get more accurate information from representatives.

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One important thing no one has mentioned: when you set up direct deposit to a new account, you should be aware that if there's ever an overpayment issue, the SSA has the right to withdraw funds from that account to recover the overpayment. Just something to keep in mind - it's in the fine print when you set up direct deposit. Not saying it will happen, but it's good to be aware.

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I didn't know that! Thanks for the heads up. I'm pretty careful about reporting any income that might affect my benefits, but that's definitely good to know.

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Just a follow-up tip: After you make the change online, wait 1-2 business days and then call the SSA's automated system at 1-800-772-1213. Use the automated options to check your direct deposit information. This lets you verify the change was recorded correctly without having to speak to a representative. It's a good peace-of-mind check that doesn't require waiting on hold for hours.

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That's a great suggestion! I didn't know you could check that through the automated system. Will definitely do this after I make the change. Thanks!

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wait so if ur born on may 19 do u actually get may benefits or just june onwards? im confused bc my uncle said u get benefits for ur birthday month but only if ur birthday is before like the 3rd of the month or something weird like that?

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Social Security pays benefits for the first full month you're eligible. For retirement benefits, you become eligible on the day you reach your full retirement age (FRA). Since the original poster's birthday is May 19, they won't be eligible for a full month until June. So their first payment would be for June benefits (paid in July). Your uncle might be thinking of the special rule for people born on the 1st of the month - they're treated as if they reached the age requirement in the previous month. So someone born on July 1 would get benefits as if they were born in June.

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i remember my dad telling me all about how he kept working part time after claiming SS at his FRA... u might wanna look into that bc u can earn AS MUCH AS U WANT after FRA with no reduction in benefits!! could be good if u wanna ease into retirement instead of stopping completely

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That's good to know! I wasn't planning to work after May, but it's reassuring to hear I could pick up some part-time work later without affecting my benefits if I wanted to. Thanks for mentioning this!

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