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I know this is slightly off-topic, but make sure you're coordinating your Social Security claiming strategy with your Medicare enrollment. If you're turning 65 soon or already have, you should have enrolled in Medicare already, even if you're delaying Social Security. They're separate programs with different enrollment timelines.

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Great point! Yes, I enrolled in Medicare when I turned 65 last year. I didn't realize at first that Medicare and Social Security were separate enrollment processes, but fortunately figured it out before any penalties kicked in.

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Just to share what I learned after meeting with a financial planner specializing in retirement - those tiny reductions for being so close to FRA aren't really significant in the grand scheme. What matters more is: 1) Do you need the money now? 2) Are you still working? and 3) What's your life expectancy based on your health and family history? With just 2 months' difference, this is more of a personal preference decision than a major financial one. Either choice is reasonable! Best of luck with your retirement - sounds like you've planned well!

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Thank you! That helps put things in perspective. And you're right - we've planned carefully for retirement, so this is more of a fine-tuning decision than a crucial one. Appreciate the good wishes!

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My mom kept working til 67 (past her widows FRA) and SSA gave her RETROACTIVE benefits for 6 months!!! Did u know u can get up to 6 months of back pay if u file after your FRA? They dont advertise this!!

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I had no idea about retroactive benefits! That's really good to know. I'll definitely ask about that when I apply. Thank you for mentioning it!

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To summarize what appears to be causing confusion: 1. You WILL receive any DRCs your husband earned between his FRA and his death at 66. 2. You will NOT receive additional DRCs he might have earned had he lived longer (up to age 70). 3. Since you mentioned he died at 66, which was likely very close to his FRA, there may be very few DRCs involved (possibly just a few months' worth). 4. Given your still-working status and the fact that your own benefit at 70 would be less than the widow's benefit, waiting until your widow's FRA (66+8mo) appears to be the optimal strategy in your case. 5. Once you stop working or reach your FRA, don't forget to inquire about the possible 6 months of retroactive benefits that may be available if you file after your FRA.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! This is exactly what I needed to know. I'll plan to wait until my widow's FRA at 66+8mo to file, and I'll definitely ask about those retroactive benefits.

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To answer your question about documentation - when I was collecting SS with my S-corp, they wanted copies of my W-2, business tax return (1120S), and personal return (1040). They seemed particularly interested in verifying that my S-corp salary was being properly reported. I just realized I never addressed your question about restarting benefits! Yes, there's a form called "Request for Reinstatement of Benefits" (not sure of the exact number). The process took about 3-4 weeks for me. The tricky part is accurately predicting your income for the rest of the year - you really have to stay on top of your projections month by month.

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Thanks for the additional details! Did they require this documentation every year, or just the first year you started collecting? I'm pretty good with my financial projections, but client work can be unpredictable.

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Regarding the automatic adjustment at FRA - the SSA should automatically stop applying the earnings test when you reach FRA, but it's always good practice to confirm this has happened. I recommend checking your my Social Security account online about a month after your birthday to verify your payment amount has adjusted correctly. As for documentation - typically they'll request verification in the first year, and then randomly in future years. The randomness is part of their compliance process. But even in years they don't request documentation, you're still legally required to report if you exceed the limit. Remember that the 2026 earnings limit will be pro-rated for your pre-FRA months. If the annual limit is around $60,000 (estimated for 2026), your January-March limit would be approximately $15,000 (1/4 of the annual amount).

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This is all incredibly helpful. I've been stressing about this for months. I think my plan now is to: 1) Keep my W-2 salary low but reasonable 2) Document my work hours 3) Be prepared to temporarily suspend benefits if needed 4) Be strategic about Q1 2026 work 5) Keep detailed records of everything. Thank you all for the guidance!

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When my sister turned 66 (her FRA) she got a job and her benefit check went UP the next year! Something about recalculation of her benefits because she was working again. So working might actually help your benefit amount in the long run too!

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That's correct. If you work after beginning benefits and your earnings are higher than one of your previous 35 highest earning years (which are used to calculate your benefit), SSA will automatically recalculate your benefit amount the following year. However, this applies to retirement benefits based on your own record, not necessarily survivor benefits.

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I think what matters most is how much this job is gonna pay you. If it's just a few hours a week maybe you don't even hit the limit? My cousin works at Walmart just 15 hours a week and stays under just fine.

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The position would be about 20 hours a week at $23/hour, so that would be around $1,840 monthly or approximately $16,560 before reaching FRA in October. Sounds like I'd still be under the limit based on what everyone has shared!

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Just to clarify on my earlier comment - I think you'll need to file a more general correction request, not specifically the earnings form. When you get through to an agent (either through the service someone mentioned or by visiting an office), ask specifically for a "manual recalculation of delayed retirement credits." Be really clear that this isn't about earnings but about how the DRCs are being calculated and displayed on your statement.

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UPDATE: I finally got through to someone at SSA after using that call service mentioned earlier. The agent explained that there was indeed a display error in how the statement was calculating my age 68 benefit. Apparently there's a known issue with how the system handles certain birth months when displaying the 1-year post-FRA amount. She assured me that when I actually file for benefits (years from now), the calculation will be correct at 8% per year. She made a note in my file about the discrepancy and said they're working on fixing the calculator for the online statements. Thank you all for your help and suggestions!

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Thanks for reporting back! This is exactly what I suspected - a display issue rather than an actual calculation error. The good news is that your actual benefit will be calculated correctly when you file. The benefit statement system and the actual benefit processing system are separate, and the actual processing system is much more robust. Glad you got it resolved!

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Now I'm gonna check my statement again and call them too! 🙌

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Thanks everyone for the thoughtful responses! You've given me a lot to consider that I hadn't thought about before - especially the earnings test, taxation issues, and the idea of choosing a middle ground rather than extremes. I'm going to try getting my exact numbers from SSA using that contact service someone mentioned, then sit down with these new considerations and make a more informed decision. This has been incredibly helpful!

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Good luck! And remember there's no perfect answer - just the one that works best for your specific situation. Let us know what you decide!

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One other thing to consider - your health insurance situation. Are you on your spouse's plan? Will you be eligible for Medicare soon? The health insurance factor can sometimes tip the scales one way or another depending on your situation.

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That's another good point! I'm still on my employer's health plan through my part-time job. Medicare eligibility starts at 65 for me, so that's definitely another factor to consider in the timing. So many variables!

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@profile2 ur wrong about the grandkid rules!! my friend got benefits for her grandson and the parents were alive just deadbeats. they had to prove the parents didnt support for a whole year before applying thats the key part!!

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You're both partially correct. The rule is specifically that the grandchild must have been receiving at least half their support from the grandparent for the year before death AND the parents were not living in the same household and providing support. It's not just about "deadbeat" parents - there are specific support and living arrangement requirements that must be documented. The OP's situation might qualify, but they'll need to provide evidence of the support arrangement.

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Thank you all for the helpful information. I've gathered Dad's death certificate, her birth certificate, his health insurance documents showing her as a dependent, and school records listing him as guardian. I also found tax returns where he claimed her as a dependent for the past 5 years. I'm going to use that Claimyr service to connect with SSA tomorrow and schedule an in-person appointment to discuss her case. I'll apply regardless of what they initially say, and I'll make sure to mention I'm seeking legal guardianship now. This has been incredibly stressful on top of grieving Dad, but at least I feel like I have a direction now. I'll update once I know more in case it helps others in similar situations.

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You're very well prepared with that documentation. The tax returns showing her as his dependent for 5 years will be particularly helpful. Wishing you the best with your appointment.

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i dont know why the goverment makes everything so complicated why cant they just have normal forms that make sense to regular people

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I know, right? I think they forget that most people only fill out these forms once every few years at most, so we don't memorize all their special codes and terminology. A simple explanation of what 'claim number' means right on the form would save everyone so much time and frustration.

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One more tip: Keep a copy of your completed W-4V form and note the date you submitted it. If you don't see the withholding change on your benefit payment within 2-3 months, follow up with SSA. Sometimes these forms get delayed in processing, especially during busy periods like the start of the year. You can check if the withholding change took effect by looking at your monthly benefit statement online through your my Social Security account.

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That's great advice - thank you! I'll definitely keep a copy and set a reminder to check in a couple months. I really appreciate everyone's help with this!

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i filed at 62 while working part time and regret it so much!!! they take back so much of my check some months i barely get anything. plus when i do fully retire my benefit is permanently lower. wish i had just waited.

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If it's been less than 12 months since you first filed, you might be able to withdraw your application! It's called a Form SSA-521. You have to pay back all the benefits you've received, but then it's like you never applied at all and your benefit can grow again. Worth looking into if you're really regretting your decision! But if it's been over 12 months, unfortunately you're locked in.

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Based on what you've shared, waiting until your consulting work ends makes the most financial sense. One additional factor to consider: tax implications. When you're working and also receiving Social Security benefits, up to 85% of your SS benefits may become taxable depending on your combined income. This is separate from the earnings test and is another reason many working people delay benefits. If you both have solid earnings records, a common strategy for married couples in good health is for the higher earner to delay until 70 (maximizing the eventual survivor benefit) while the lower earner claims at FRA. This provides some income flow while still optimizing your household's lifetime benefits.

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I hadn't even thought about the tax angle! That's a really good point. And yes, my husband's benefit will be about 30% higher than mine based on our earnings histories. I'll definitely look more into the strategy you suggested about me claiming at FRA and him waiting until 70. Thank you for this detailed insight!

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Social Security nightmare - repaid retirement benefits but SS still claims I owe money for survivor benefits transition

I'm so frustrated with Social Security right now! I'm 67 (past my FRA but not 70 yet) and I've been caught in an administrative mess for months. Originally claimed my retirement benefits last summer, but then found out I could get higher survivor benefits from my late husband's record. So I requested to withdraw my retirement application and repay the benefits I'd received (about $14,500 for 4 months of payments). Here's where the nightmare begins: I sent SSA a check to repay in August. After 3 months of them not cashing it, I called and the rep told me to stop payment on that check and bring a new one to the local office. So I did exactly that in November - delivered a new check in person to make sure it was processed. That check cleared my bank account within days. But now, 3 months later, SSA is STILL saying I owe the exact same amount! My survivor benefit application is completely stalled because they claim I haven't repaid the retirement benefits. I've brought bank statements showing the cleared check to my local office, even got an official letter from my bank confirming the check was cashed by the Treasury. The SSA office basically shrugged and said "our system shows you still owe." To make things more confusing, I received a 1099 from SSA showing I had repaid the benefits, but when I mentioned this, the local office said "that's not really accurate" whatever that means! I've made 3 in-person visits and countless phone calls. I need those survivor benefits to start. Has anyone successfully resolved this kind of administrative mess with SSA? What else can I try?

i think they sometimes do this on purpose to save money. my neighbor had something similar and they kept "losing" his paperwork for like 6 months!! he had to get really mad and threaten to call his congressman before they finally fixed it. the whole system is rigged to make it hard for us seniors!!

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EXACTLY!!! SS is trying to save money by making things so complicated that people give up! My moms friend waited 9 MONTHS for them to fix a payment issue. Its not an accident that there system is so broken!!!

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Having worked at SSA for many years, I can assure you this isn't an intentional delay tactic. The reality is that SSA's computer systems were built in the 1980s and have been patched together with updates over decades. Different parts of the system don't communicate well with each other. Withdrawal cases are particularly complicated because they touch multiple systems - benefits, earnings records, treasury payments, and tax reporting. It's a genuine technical limitation, not a conspiracy to deny benefits. The agency is actually working on a massive systems overhaul, but it will take years to complete.

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Update: I just got back from another office visit after using all the specific terminology suggested here. What a difference! I asked for a Technical Expert specifically and mentioned "Critical Payment Correction" and "Administrative Action Review." The TE actually found that my payment HAD been recorded but in a different part of their system than what shows on my online account. They're initiating a correction process that she said should take about 2 weeks to sync up their records. In the meantime, they're starting my survivor benefits provisionally! Thank you all SO MUCH for your help with this - I would never have known what to ask for without your suggestions.

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That's fantastic news! I'm so glad you were able to get this resolved. This is exactly why it's important to use the correct terminology - it helps cut through layers of confusion. The provisional benefits are especially good news since that means you won't have to wait for the full administrative correction to be completed before receiving income. Be sure to keep documentation of everything, including the name of the Technical Expert who helped you, just in case there are any future questions about this situation.

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Wow thats great!! So happy for you!! Its crazy how using the right words makes all the difference. Goes to show how broken their system is that regular people cant get help without knowing the secret language!! But glad it worked out for you!!

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