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I'm also dealing with this exact same frustrating situation! My birthday is on the 17th, so I'm stuck with the 3rd Wednesday payments too. Just got my first Social Security payment last month and the whole birthday-based system was a complete surprise - nobody mentioned this during my application process. Like many of you, most of my bills are due early in the month (rent on the 3rd, utilities around the 10th), but I don't get paid until that 3rd Wednesday which can be as late as the 21st some months. It's been really stressful trying to manage that gap. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so helpful! I'm definitely going to try calling my utility companies to shift due dates like several of you suggested. The idea about setting up a separate "bill paying" account also sounds brilliant - it would help me mentally organize my fixed expenses vs daily spending. One thing I'm curious about - for those who successfully got their mortgage or rent due dates changed, did you find that offering additional security deposit helped? Or was it more about explaining the Social Security situation? My rent is my biggest expense and it's due way before my SS payment arrives. Thanks for sharing all these practical solutions - it's such a relief to know I'm not the only one struggling with this transition!

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Welcome to the 3rd Wednesday club! I'm also new to this (just started receiving benefits a few months ago, birthday on the 19th). For rent/mortgage changes, I found that a combination approach worked best - I explained my Social Security situation AND offered a small additional deposit (I did $150). But honestly, just being upfront about transitioning to fixed income payments seemed to be the key factor. Most landlords would rather work with a good tenant than deal with turnover. When I called, I had my SS award letter ready and explained that I was a long-term tenant adjusting to retirement income timing. I emphasized that I wanted to ensure continued on-time payments by aligning my rent due date with my payment schedule. The deposit offer just showed extra good faith, but I think they would have agreed without it. For utilities, I didn't need any deposit - just explaining the SS payment schedule was enough. Start with those easier ones first to build confidence before tackling the rent situation. You've got this! The first few months are definitely the hardest, but once everything is realigned, the 3rd Wednesday schedule actually becomes quite predictable and manageable.

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I'm also brand new to Social Security and just went through this exact same frustrating experience! My birthday is on the 18th, so I'm right there with you on that 3rd Wednesday payment schedule. The lack of clear explanation about the birthday-based system during the application process is really disappointing - I felt completely blindsided by it. Like you, I was expecting something more flexible or at least similar to regular employment pay schedules. What's helped me during this transition is following a lot of the great advice already shared in this thread. I've started calling my utility companies to shift due dates (electric and gas companies were surprisingly accommodating), and I'm working on setting up that separate "bill paying" account that several people mentioned. The hardest part for me has been accepting that this 1.5 month wait for the first payment is just part of the process. I ended up having to dip into my small emergency fund to bridge the gap, but knowing that the 3rd Wednesday schedule will be consistent going forward does provide some comfort. For anyone else just starting this journey - definitely take advantage of the my Social Security online account to see your full year payment schedule. Having those dates mapped out in advance has been really helpful for planning ahead. And don't hesitate to ask companies about "senior" or "fixed income" payment date adjustments - that specific language seems to get you connected with more helpful representatives. Hang in there - from what everyone says, it really does get much more manageable once you get through these first few months of adjustment!

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I'm so sorry for the loss of your daughter, and I can only imagine how difficult this must be for you and your grandson. As someone who works with families navigating these exact situations, I want to add a few specific action items that might help: **Immediate steps for this month**: Since your grandson turns 18 in May and graduates then, you have a narrow window. Contact SSA immediately to confirm the exact date benefits will stop and ask about any final paperwork needed. **Hidden resources to explore**: Many people don't know that some life insurance policies through employers include separate educational benefits that aren't tied to the main death benefit. Also, check if your daughter contributed to a 403(b) or other retirement account - some of these have survivor educational provisions. **Community college strategy**: When you meet with financial aid, ask specifically about their "retention" or "completion" grants. These are often separate from general financial aid and designed to help students who face sudden financial hardships stay in school. **State-specific tip**: Look into whether your state has a "Surviving Spouse and Children" program through the Department of Veterans Affairs or Department of Education - even if your daughter wasn't military, some states have broader survivor education programs. The loss of Social Security benefits is devastating, but I've seen families successfully piece together support from multiple sources. Your grandson is fortunate to have you advocating for him during this transition.

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This is incredibly helpful and actionable advice! Having specific steps broken down by timeline is exactly what I need right now. I'm going to contact SSA this week to confirm the exact date the benefits stop and make sure we don't miss any final paperwork. The point about checking my daughter's 403(b) for survivor educational provisions is something I never would have thought of - she did contribute to one through the school district, so I'll definitely look into that. I really appreciate you mentioning the "retention" and "completion" grants at community colleges - that's such specific language to use when talking to financial aid that could make all the difference. Your suggestion about state Surviving Spouse and Children programs is also something I need to research immediately. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who works with families in our situation that it's possible to piece together support from multiple sources. Some days this feels impossible, but having concrete steps to take gives me hope and direction. Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed, professional guidance during this overwhelming time.

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I'm so deeply sorry for the loss of your daughter. Having lost my own parent during college years, I understand how overwhelming the financial concerns can feel on top of everything else you're processing. Everyone here has given you excellent information about the Social Security benefits ending at 18 - unfortunately that's accurate. But I wanted to add one resource that was a game-changer for my family: check if your daughter's employer offered any tuition assistance or educational benefits as part of their employee benefits package that might extend to survivors. Some school districts and government employers have these programs that HR departments don't always publicize well. Also, when your grandson meets with the community college's financial aid office, have him specifically mention that he's recently lost a parent. Many colleges have what they call "professional judgment" authority to adjust a student's aid package when there are special circumstances like this. They can sometimes override the standard FAFSA calculations to better reflect your family's current situation. One last thought - consider reaching out to your daughter's former colleagues and friends. Teachers especially tend to be very supportive of each other's families, and they might know about local education-related scholarships or funds that aren't widely advertised. Sometimes the most meaningful help comes from the communities we're already part of. Your grandson is lucky to have you fighting for him during this difficult time. There are paths forward, even when the main road closes.

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Thank you so much for sharing your personal experience and for the incredibly thoughtful suggestions. The idea about checking my daughter's employer benefits for survivor educational programs is something I definitely need to pursue - she worked for our local school district for over 15 years, so there might be programs I'm not aware of. Your point about "professional judgment" authority at the financial aid office is really important information - I'll make sure my grandson emphasizes his recent loss when he meets with them. Having specific language like that to use could make a real difference in how they evaluate his situation. I love your suggestion about reaching out to my daughter's former colleagues and friends in the teaching community. You're absolutely right that teachers tend to be very supportive of each other's families, and they would probably know about local education scholarships that aren't widely publicized. It hadn't occurred to me to tap into that network, but it makes perfect sense. Thank you for the encouragement and for sharing that there are paths forward even when it feels like everything is closing. This whole community has given me so much hope and practical guidance during such a difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Ethan. I went through this exact same form confusion when my husband passed away about a year ago, and I remember feeling just as frustrated by those seemingly contradictory instructions. Everyone here has given you absolutely correct advice - you should skip items 2-5 since you were living with your husband at the time of his death. The household residency question establishes your automatic right to claim any undisbursed benefits, which takes precedence over everything else on this form. What really helped me understand it was when an SSA representative explained that the form is designed to handle multiple different scenarios (separated spouses, divorced spouses, etc.), but living together at the time of death is actually the most straightforward qualification path. A few practical tips from my experience: definitely send everything certified mail with return receipt requested, include a brief note explaining you're skipping items 2-5 due to household residency, and have extra certified copies of the death certificate ready since they sometimes request additional documentation. My processing time was about 8 weeks, and while the amount was just his prorated benefit for that final month, it felt important to complete this last administrative step. You're doing everything right, and this community has given you excellent guidance. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and for the clear explanation about how the form handles multiple scenarios. It's really helpful to know that an SSA representative confirmed that living together is the most straightforward qualification path - that gives me additional confidence in the advice everyone has provided. Your practical tips about certified mail, including an explanatory note, and having extra death certificate copies are exactly what I needed to hear. The 8-week timeline you mentioned is consistent with what others have shared, which helps me set realistic expectations. I'm feeling much more prepared to move forward with this form now, knowing I have such solid guidance from people who have successfully navigated this exact same situation. This community has been incredibly supportive during such a challenging time, and I truly appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and practical advice.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Ethan. I can completely relate to your confusion with the SSA-1724-F4 form - those instructions really are poorly written and seem to contradict each other. Based on everything you've described and the excellent advice from others here, you should definitely skip items 2-5 since you were living with your husband at the time of his death. The household residency qualification automatically establishes your right to claim any undisbursed benefits, regardless of whether you were receiving benefits on his record at the time. I went through a very similar situation when my late wife passed away about 10 months ago. What helped me understand the form's logic was realizing it's trying to cover many different scenarios - separated couples, divorced spouses, etc. - but your situation (living together) is actually the clearest and most direct path. A few things that helped me: I included a brief note with my submission stating "Skipping items 2-5 per household residency instructions," sent everything certified mail, and had multiple copies of all documents ready. The processing took about 9 weeks in my case. You're handling so much right now, and this community has given you spot-on guidance. Trust their advice - you're absolutely on the right track. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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FRIENDLY WARNING from someone who's been there: SSA is TERRIBLE at implementing these earnings limit reductions correctly!!! They messed up my benefits THREE TIMES, sending me overpayment notices for money I didn't actually owe. Keep DETAILED records of everything - your monthly income, your communications with SSA, EVERYTHING. And when they inevitably mess up your benefits calculation, be prepared to spend HOURS on the phone getting it fixed. The system is broken and understaffed.

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so true!!! they told my sister she owed $7000!!! took 8 months to fix and they finally admitted THEY made the mistake not her. keep every paystub and document everything!!!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar boat - 62 and considering survivor benefits while still working part-time. The monthly vs annual earnings test distinction for the first year is something I had NO idea about. One question for those who've been through this - do they count gross earnings or net earnings toward the $23,400/$1,950 limits? And does this include things like tips or just W-2 wages? I work at a restaurant and get both hourly pay and tips, so I want to make sure I'm tracking the right numbers. Also, has anyone had success using the SSA's online earnings reporting tool, or is it better to call? Based on what I'm reading here about their phone system, I'm not optimistic about either option!

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I'm so glad you asked this question! I was in the exact same situation about 8 months ago when I started planning for my own retirement at 62. The abbreviation overload is absolutely real - I remember feeling like I needed a decoder ring just to read basic Social Security information! Here's what worked for me: I started by focusing ONLY on the terms that directly affected my claiming decision. For someone turning 62, that's really just FRA (Full Retirement Age), PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), and understanding the early retirement reduction. Everything else can wait until you have those basics down solid. The game-changer for me was actually calling Social Security during their less busy hours (Tuesday-Thursday, mid-morning) and asking the representative to walk through a benefits estimate using MY actual earnings record while explaining what each term meant. Having someone explain PIA using my real numbers made it click in a way that reading definitions never did. Also, once you create your my Social Security account online, their benefit calculator shows everything in dollars rather than percentages, which makes the impact of claiming at different ages much clearer. Don't feel pressure to understand every single abbreviation - even after months of research, I still look things up when I encounter new terms! You're being really smart to start this research now rather than waiting until you need to make the decision. Take it one step at a time!

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This is such wonderful advice! I really appreciate you sharing your specific strategy of focusing only on the terms that directly affect the claiming decision first. That makes so much more sense than trying to learn everything at once - I was definitely overwhelming myself trying to understand every abbreviation I came across. Your tip about calling during less busy hours is brilliant too. I was dreading having to call at all because I assumed I'd be on hold forever, but Tuesday-Thursday mid-morning sounds much more manageable. And having them walk through MY actual numbers while explaining the terms is exactly what I need - you're so right that seeing real dollars makes it much clearer than abstract percentages. I'm definitely going to set up that my Social Security account this weekend and start with their benefit calculator. It's really encouraging to hear from someone who went through this same learning process recently and came out the other side feeling confident about it. Thank you for the reassurance that I don't need to become an expert on every single term - I was putting way too much pressure on myself to understand everything perfectly right away!

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I'm so glad you asked this question! I was completely lost when I first started looking into Social Security too. All these responses have been incredibly helpful - I had no idea there were so many different abbreviations to keep track of. I particularly appreciate everyone breaking down the difference between SSI and SSDI, and all the explanations about FRA and PIA. The tip about creating a cheat sheet with just the terms relevant to your specific situation is genius - I was trying to memorize everything at once and getting nowhere. The suggestion about setting up a "my Social Security" account and using their benefit calculator with actual numbers instead of trying to understand abstract definitions first really resonates with me. I think I've been approaching this backwards by trying to learn all the terminology before seeing how it applies to my real situation. Thank you to everyone who shared specific resources like the SSA handbook, YouTube videos, and calling during off-peak hours. It's so reassuring to know that feeling overwhelmed by all this jargon is totally normal and that there are good strategies for tackling it step by step!

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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt completely overwhelmed by all these abbreviations! Reading through everyone's responses has been like having a lightbulb moment - I was definitely approaching this backwards too by trying to memorize definitions before understanding how they actually apply to my situation. The idea of starting with the benefit calculator to see real numbers first, then learning the terms as they become relevant, makes so much more sense than what I was doing. I was getting stuck on acronyms like AIME and BENDP that probably don't even matter for my basic claiming decision right now. I'm feeling so much more confident about tackling this step by step instead of trying to become a Social Security expert overnight. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when you realize you don't need to understand every single abbreviation before you can start making progress on the basics!

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