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Chloe Taylor

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Just wanted to wish you the very best for your CE tomorrow! Reading through everyone's advice here, it sounds like you're going in well-prepared. I went through a similar process for my disability claim (different condition, but same anxiety level), and what really helped me was remembering that this exam is just one piece of the puzzle - not the make-or-break moment I'd built it up to be in my mind. One small thing I'd add to all the excellent advice already given: if you take any photos or videos of yourself on particularly difficult days (maybe struggling to walk or showing tremors/coordination issues), consider mentioning that you have this documentation available. You don't need to bring it to the CE, but it can be valuable evidence for your overall case file. Also, try to get a good night's sleep tonight if possible. I know that's easier said than done with MS and neuropathy pain, but being as rested as you can be will help you communicate more clearly tomorrow. You've got an entire community here rooting for you! Please update us when you can - we'll all be thinking of you. Remember, you're simply documenting your reality, and you absolutely deserve support for the challenges you're facing. Good luck tomorrow! 🍀

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Caleb Bell

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Thank you so much, Chloe! Your support and everyone else's here has been incredible. I never thought about documenting my worst days with photos or videos, but that's such a smart idea for building a complete picture of how these conditions affect me. I actually do have some videos on my phone from days when my coordination was really bad - I took them to show my neurologist. I'll definitely mention that I have this kind of documentation available. I'm going to try my best to get some rest tonight, though the anticipation is making it tough. But honestly, after reading all these thoughtful responses, I feel so much more prepared and less alone in this process. I promise to update everyone once I get through tomorrow. Thank you all again for being such an amazing support system! đź’™

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Omar Zaki

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I just want to add my support and a few thoughts as someone who's been through multiple CEs over the years. First, you're absolutely doing the right thing by reaching out here - the community support makes such a difference in this isolating process. One thing I learned the hard way is that the CE doctor's job is really just to provide a snapshot of your functional capacity on that specific day. They're not there to diagnose or treat, just to observe and document. So don't feel like you need to "prove" anything dramatic - just be completely honest about what you can and cannot do reliably. Since you mentioned you can barely walk some days, make sure to explain the variability of your symptoms. MS is notorious for good days and bad days, and the unpredictability itself is disabling. Even if tomorrow happens to be a decent day for you, emphasize how that doesn't reflect your overall capacity to maintain consistent work performance. Also, don't forget to mention any side effects from your medications. Many MS drugs can cause fatigue, cognitive issues, or other symptoms that impact your ability to work, even when they're helping manage the underlying condition. You're clearly well-prepared thanks to all the excellent advice in this thread. Remember, you're not asking for charity - you've paid into this system and deserve these benefits if your conditions prevent you from working. Trust yourself and your experience with your own body. You've got this! Looking forward to hearing how it goes.

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Drew Hathaway

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I'm glad you're feeling more confident about your situation! One thing I'd add - since you mentioned your husband only had about 7 years of Social Security-covered work, you might still want to double-check if there are any survivor benefits available on his record, even if they're small. Sometimes people are surprised by what's available, and you can always switch between your own retirement benefit and survivor benefits if circumstances change. Also, when you do create that my Social Security account, pay attention to the "break-even" analysis. It shows you at what age the total lifetime benefits from waiting longer would exceed taking benefits earlier. For many people, if you're in good health and expect to live into your 80s, waiting until full retirement age (or even longer) often pays off in the long run. Good luck with your retirement planning - you're being smart to research all this ahead of time!

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Molly Hansen

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This is such valuable advice about checking the break-even analysis! I never thought about looking at lifetime benefits that way. Since I'm in pretty good health and my mom lived to 88, waiting until full retirement age probably makes financial sense. The my Social Security account sounds like it has more tools than I realized - I'm definitely going to prioritize getting that set up this week. Thanks for mentioning the survivor benefit double-check too, even if it's small it's worth knowing about all my options!

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As someone who works in retirement planning, I want to echo what others have said - you're absolutely right that your husband's Ohio state pension won't affect your own Social Security retirement benefits. The key distinction is that YOU worked jobs covered by Social Security for 40+ years, so you've earned your full benefit regardless of any pension income you receive as a beneficiary. One additional consideration: if you're currently receiving survivor benefits from his pension, make sure you understand how those might change if you remarry in the future. Most government pension survivor benefits have remarriage provisions, though this obviously may not be a concern for you right now. Also, since you mentioned serious financial planning, don't forget to factor in Medicare costs when you turn 65. Even if you decide to delay Social Security until your FRA, you'll still want to enroll in Medicare Part A (and possibly B) to avoid future penalties. The Medicare and Social Security claiming decisions can be made independently. You're wise to research this thoroughly before making your claiming decision!

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Jordan Walker

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't even thought about the Medicare enrollment piece - that's definitely something I need to research since I'll be turning 65 next year regardless of when I claim Social Security. Good point about the remarriage provisions too, though like you said that's not on my radar right now. It's reassuring to hear from someone in retirement planning that I'm on the right track with my research. There are so many moving pieces to consider beyond just the basic "when should I claim" question!

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Ravi Sharma

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Giovanni. This has been such a helpful thread to read through. I'm a tax preparer and I see this situation fairly often - you'll definitely receive just one SSA-1099 form that combines all benefits paid to you during the year, regardless of the benefit type changes. What I always recommend to clients in your situation is to gather a few key documents before our meeting: the single SSA-1099 when it arrives (usually by end of January), your benefit award letters showing the transition from spousal to widow benefits, and any records you have of the monthly amounts received. This helps me ensure everything looks accurate and also allows me to properly advise you on your filing status options for the year your spouse passed away. The benefit type change itself won't complicate your tax preparation, but as others have mentioned, there are important considerations around filing status and potential changes to your overall tax situation that we'll want to review together. The widow(er) filing status can be quite beneficial for the first two years after your spouse's death if you have qualifying dependents, but even without dependents, there are often strategies we can discuss to optimize your tax situation during this transition. Hang in there - you're asking all the right questions and being proactive about understanding the process.

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Ella Harper

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Thank you so much, Ravi! As someone new to this community, it's incredibly reassuring to hear from a tax professional who sees these situations regularly. Your advice about gathering those specific documents is exactly what I needed - I've been feeling overwhelmed about what paperwork to prepare, but you've given me a clear checklist. I hadn't thought about the widow filing status potentially having benefits for the first two years, so that's definitely something I'll want to discuss. It's comforting to know that the benefit type change won't complicate the actual tax preparation. This whole thread has been such a lifeline during a really difficult time - thank you for taking the time to share your professional insights with all of us navigating this situation.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Giovanni. This thread has been incredibly educational for someone new to navigating these waters. I wanted to add something that might be helpful - when you receive your SSA-1099, make sure to check that your name and Social Security number are correct on the form, not just the dollar amount. I'm a newcomer to this community but I work in financial services, and I've seen cases where name changes after a spouse's death (like reverting to a maiden name or hyphenated name changes) sometimes cause discrepancies on tax documents. If you've made any name changes with Social Security since your husband's passing, just double-check that everything matches what you'll be filing under. Also, echoing what the tax preparer mentioned - the combination of losing a spouse and switching benefit types creates several tax considerations beyond just the 1099. Things like potential changes in your tax bracket, different standard deduction amounts, and even eligibility for certain credits can all shift. It sounds like you're being very thoughtful about preparing for tax season, which will serve you well. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences here - as someone who may face a similar situation in the future, reading through these real-world insights has been invaluable.

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Jamal Brown

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Based on my experience helping my elderly neighbor through this same process last year, I wanted to share a few practical tips that might help you: First, yes - the SSA should automatically calculate and add your spousal benefit top-up when your husband files at his FRA. You don't need to submit a separate application. However, the key word is "should" - as others have mentioned, there can be delays or oversights. Since you filed at 62, your spousal benefit will be reduced to approximately 32.5% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). With his estimated $3,200 benefit, his PIA is likely around that same amount, so your reduced spousal benefit would be roughly $1,040. Since you're currently getting $1,425, you may not qualify for any additional spousal top-up, or it might be a very small amount. Here's what I'd recommend: Before your husband files, visit your local SSA office together and ask them to run the calculation. They can tell you exactly what to expect so there are no surprises. This way you'll know upfront if you'll get any increase and approximately how much. Also, make sure both of you have MySocialSecurity accounts set up online so you can monitor the changes in real-time once he files. The transparency really helps reduce anxiety about whether the system is working properly! Hope this helps with your planning!

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This is really helpful analysis, thank you! Your math about the spousal benefit calculation is eye-opening - I hadn't realized that with my current benefit at $1,425, I might not get much (or any) additional spousal amount. I was definitely expecting more based on what friends had told me. The suggestion to visit the SSA office together before my husband files is excellent. Getting the exact calculation ahead of time would save us from any false expectations and help with our financial planning. I'm definitely going to set up that MySocialSecurity account too so I can track everything. It's a bit disappointing to learn that the increase might be minimal, but at least now I understand how the system actually works rather than hoping for something unrealistic. Thanks for taking the time to break down the numbers!

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I've been working as a benefits counselor for over 15 years and want to address some confusion I'm seeing in this thread. When your husband files at his FRA, the SSA will automatically review your case for spousal benefits - no separate application needed. However, given your current benefit of $1,425 and your husband's estimated $3,200, you may receive little to no spousal top-up. Here's why: You filed at 62, so your spousal benefit is permanently reduced to about 32.5% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount. If his PIA is around $3,200, your maximum spousal benefit would be approximately $1,040 (32.5% of $3,200). Since you're already receiving $1,425 on your own record, which is higher than $1,040, you likely won't qualify for any spousal top-up at all. This is a common misconception - many people think the spousal benefit is "in addition to" your own benefit, but it's actually the higher of the two amounts. The system pays your own benefit first, then only adds spousal benefits if that amount would be higher. I'd strongly recommend visiting your local SSA office with your husband before he files to get the exact calculation. This will prevent any disappointment and help with your financial planning. The representatives can pull up both records and give you precise numbers.

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Thank you for this professional insight! This is exactly the kind of clarification I needed. I was definitely operating under the misconception that spousal benefits would be added on top of my own benefit rather than being the higher of the two amounts. Your calculation showing that my reduced spousal benefit would only be about $1,040 versus my current $1,425 really puts things in perspective. I guess all those friends who told me I'd get a nice increase either had much lower personal benefits or didn't understand the system themselves. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this clearly. It's disappointing to learn I likely won't see any increase, but it's much better to have realistic expectations going into this. We'll definitely visit the local SSA office as you suggested to get the official numbers before my husband files. One quick follow-up question - would there be any scenario where I might still get a small top-up, or based on these numbers would it definitely be zero additional benefit?

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who's been self-employed and on SS benefits for 3 years now - you're definitely overthinking this! It's absolutely your NET earnings that count, not the gross 1099 amounts. I was in panic mode my first year too because my 1099s looked scary high, but after all my legitimate business deductions (which sounds like you're already tracking well), I was comfortably under the limit. The key thing is that SSA uses what's reported on your Schedule SE, and that already accounts for your business expenses from Schedule C. So your $58k net after expenses puts you in a really good position, especially with that 92.35% factor that gets applied. One pro tip from my experience: since you hit FRA in November, consider whether you can time any big invoices or project completions for December. That income won't count toward the earnings test at all once you're past your FRA month. I did this strategy in my FRA year and it gave me so much peace of mind! Don't let the anxiety eat at you - with proper documentation of your expenses and staying under that net threshold, you should be totally fine. The system actually works pretty logically once you understand it's based on your actual profit, not just gross receipts.

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Aaron Boston

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Thanks Connor, this is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been navigating this for a few years! You're right that I'm probably overthinking it - I tend to get anxious about anything involving government benefits. The December timing strategy is brilliant - I actually do have a couple of larger projects that I could easily push to completion after my birthday month. It's such a relief to know that once I hit FRA in November, I don't have to worry about the earnings limit anymore. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and calm my nerves!

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I went through this exact same confusion when I started collecting early SS benefits as a 1099 contractor! The good news is that everyone here is correct - it's definitely your NET earnings that count for the Social Security earnings test, not your gross 1099 income. What really helped me understand this was realizing that Social Security is looking at your actual self-employment profit (what you'd pay self-employment tax on), not just the total amount clients paid you. So your $58,000 net after legitimate business expenses is what matters, and that puts you well under the 2025 limit of $62,160. I'd also strongly recommend keeping meticulous records of all your business expenses throughout the year. When I had questions about this, having everything documented made conversations with SSA much smoother. And since you're hitting FRA in November, you have the added benefit of being able to strategically time any late-year income to December when the earnings limit no longer applies! The stress and confusion around this is totally understandable - the SSA materials aren't always crystal clear about self-employment situations. But once you understand they're using your Schedule SE figures (your actual taxable self-employment income), it becomes much more manageable.

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Katherine, thank you so much for this perspective! It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. You're absolutely right about keeping meticulous records - I'm realizing that good documentation isn't just helpful for taxes, but also makes any interactions with SSA so much less stressful. I feel like I've been drowning in conflicting information online, but hearing from multiple people here who've actually lived through this gives me so much confidence. The strategic timing aspect for December income is definitely something I'm going to implement. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience!

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