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Sofia Ramirez

2025 Social Security earnings limit at age 62 - how much can I make without penalty?

I'll be turning 62 in March 2025 and plan to start collecting SS benefits then (I know it's reduced but I have my reasons). What I'm confused about is how much I can earn from my part-time job without getting penalized. I've heard different numbers - some people say around $22,000 and others say it might be higher for 2025 because of inflation adjustments. Also, do they count ALL income or just W-2 wages? I have some rental income too. If I do go over whatever the limit is, how much do they actually take away? Thanks for any clarity on this!

Dmitry Volkov

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The earnings limit for 2025 if you're under Full Retirement Age (FRA) for the whole year is projected to be around $22,320. They deduct $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. Only WAGES and SELF-EMPLOYMENT income count - not rental income, investments, pensions, etc. So your rental income won't count against you. The year you reach FRA has a different, much higher limit ($59,520 for 2025 estimated) with only $1 withheld for every $3 above. Once you hit your FRA month, there's no limit at all. I've been through this whole process - document everything and report correctly to avoid overpayment notices later!

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Sofia Ramirez

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Thank you! So my rental income doesn't count at all? That's a relief. Does the SSA automatically know about my wages or do I need to report them throughout the year?

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StarSeeker

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my sister got hit with this last year. she didn't know about the limit and earned like $5k over it. social security took back $2500 in benefits and she was so upset because she already spent the money. be careful!

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Sofia Ramirez

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Yikes, that's exactly what I'm worried about. Did she have to pay it all back at once?

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Ava Martinez

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Just a quick correction to the first response - the earnings limit for those under FRA for all of 2025 is actually projected to be $22,560, not $22,320. The SSA usually announces the official limits in October of the previous year, so we'll know the exact 2025 limits in October 2024. And yes, only earnings from work count - not pensions, investments, interest, rental income, etc. You do need to notify SSA if you expect to exceed the limit, rather than waiting for them to catch it later. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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Sofia Ramirez

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Thanks for the correction! Do you know if they take the entire monthly benefit check when you go over, or just deduct the amount you owe?

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Miguel Ortiz

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I went thru this last year! When u start getting benefits, they'll send you a form asking for your expected earnings for the year. BE HONEST or you'll regret it later trust me. If you think you might earn more, estimate high. They'll adjust your monthly payments based on what you tell them. Better to get smaller checks than owe them later!!!

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Zainab Omar

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This is sooo important. My cousin didn't report correctly and ended up with no SS checks for 6 months while they recouped the overpayment. The system is not forgiving at all.

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Connor Murphy

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IMPORTANT: While others mentioned the annual earnings limit correctly, make sure you understand the special rule for the first year of retirement. In the first year you claim benefits, SSA will pay a full benefit for any month you earn under the MONTHLY limit ($1,880 for 2025 based on projections) AND don't perform substantial services in self-employment. This helps people who retire mid-year and might have already earned over the annual limit before they started collecting benefits. After that first year, only the annual limit applies. Also, don't forget that any benefits withheld because you exceeded the earnings limit aren't truly lost. Once you reach FRA, your monthly benefit amount will be recalculated to give you credit for those months when benefits were withheld. Not many people realize this part!

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Sofia Ramirez

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This is super helpful! So in my case, if I've already earned $25,000 by March 2025 when I turn 62, but then stop working completely, I could still get full benefits for April-December because I'd be under the MONTHLY limit?

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Yara Sayegh

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I've been trying to reach someone at SSA for days about this same question and keep getting disconnected or waiting for hours. So frustrating! Has anyone had any luck getting through to an actual person lately?

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Dmitry Volkov

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Zainab Omar

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Wat I never understsnd is why we even have an earnings limit?? We PAID into the system our whole lives and now they PENALIZE us for working?? Its OUR money!! Anyone know why this stupid rule exists??

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Ava Martinez

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The earnings limit exists because Social Security was designed as partial replacement of lost earnings due to retirement, disability or death. If you're still working and earning significant income, you haven't technically "lost" those earnings yet. That's why the limit goes away completely at full retirement age - at that point, the system considers you fully entitled regardless of work status. It's frustrating, but that's the historical policy reasoning behind it.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Thanks everyone for the information! One more question - does the earnings limit apply to gross wages or after-tax wages? And if I accidentally go over, will they just take my entire check until it's paid back or work out some kind of payment plan?

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Connor Murphy

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It's based on gross wages before any deductions for taxes, insurance, etc. If you go over the limit, they typically adjust future monthly payments rather than demanding a lump sum repayment. But how quickly they recoup depends on the amount owed. Small overpayments might reduce checks by a percentage, while larger ones could result in suspended benefits until the debt is cleared. Your best approach is to contact SSA as soon as you realize you might exceed the limit rather than waiting for them to catch it.

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Harmony Love

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Just want to add something that might help - if you're planning to work part-time after claiming at 62, consider whether delaying benefits even just a year or two might be worth it. The reduction for claiming at 62 is permanent (around 25% less than your full benefit), but if you can earn decent income from work anyway, waiting until 63 or 64 gives you a higher monthly benefit for life. I know you said you have your reasons for claiming at 62, but just thought I'd mention it since the earnings limit combined with the early retirement reduction can really impact your total income. Also, don't forget that your Social Security benefits might be taxable depending on your total income including that rental income - that's a separate calculation from the earnings limit but worth planning for!

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Isaiah Cross

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This is really good advice! I hadn't fully considered how the permanent reduction at 62 combined with the earnings limit might impact my overall financial picture. You're right that if I'm going to be working part-time anyway and earning close to the limit, maybe it makes sense to wait a year or two for a higher monthly benefit. And thanks for mentioning the tax implications of the rental income - I completely forgot that SS benefits themselves can be taxable. Do you happen to know what the income thresholds are for SS benefit taxation? I should probably factor that into my planning too.

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Diego Chavez

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@Isaiah Cross For 2025, Social Security benefits become taxable if your combined "income adjusted" (gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your SS benefits exceeds) $25,000 for single filers or $32,000 for married filing jointly. At those thresholds, up to 50% of your benefits are taxable. If your combined income exceeds $34,000 single (or) $44,000 married (,)up to 85% of benefits become taxable. With rental income plus part-time wages plus SS benefits, you could easily hit these thresholds. Definitely worth running the numbers before deciding when to claim!

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Malik Thomas

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One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're planning to work part-time and are concerned about staying under the earnings limit, consider asking your employer about flexible scheduling or if they can structure some compensation as non-wage benefits that don't count toward the limit. For example, employer contributions to health insurance premiums or HSAs don't count as wages for Social Security purposes. Also, if you have any vacation or sick time accrued, the timing of when that gets paid out can matter for which year it counts toward your earnings. I learned this the hard way when a December payout pushed me over the limit! Just another strategy to help maximize your income while staying compliant with the rules.

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CosmicCowboy

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This is such valuable practical advice! I never would have thought about the timing of vacation payouts affecting which year the earnings count toward. That's definitely something to keep in mind when planning. The idea about non-wage benefits is interesting too - I'll have to ask my potential employer if they offer any health benefits or other perks that could help me maximize my total compensation while staying under the earnings limit. It sounds like there are quite a few strategies to work within the system if you plan carefully. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Keisha Brown

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Great discussion everyone! I'm in a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my local SSA office visit last month. They emphasized that it's really important to report your expected earnings BEFORE you start receiving benefits, not after. They have a form called SSA-723 (Statement of Claimant or Other Person) where you estimate your annual earnings. If your situation changes during the year, you can update it online through your my Social Security account or by calling. The key thing they told me is that it's much easier to adjust your benefit payments downward from the start than to deal with overpayments later. Also, if you're self-employed or have irregular income, they recommend being conservative with your estimates since it's harder to predict exactly what you'll earn. One more tip - keep detailed records of all your earnings throughout the year, including pay stubs and 1099s, because if there's ever a discrepancy you'll need documentation to resolve it quickly.

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Lucas Adams

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Thank you so much for mentioning the SSA-723 form! As someone new to all this Social Security stuff, I had no idea there was a specific form for reporting expected earnings. That's exactly the kind of practical detail I need to know. I really appreciate you sharing your experience from actually visiting the SSA office - it sounds like talking to them in person gave you much clearer guidance than what I've been able to find online. I'm definitely going to be conservative with my earnings estimates since my part-time work might be somewhat irregular. Quick question - when you updated your earnings estimate during the year, was it pretty straightforward to do through the online account, or did you end up having to call? I'm hoping to avoid the phone system if possible based on what others have said about wait times!

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Malik Johnson

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also approaching 62 and considering early retirement with part-time work. One thing I wanted to add based on my research is about the "grace year" rule that Connor mentioned - it's really important to understand that the monthly earnings test ($1,880/month for 2025) only applies in your very first year of receiving benefits. After that first year, only the annual limit matters, so you could theoretically earn nothing for 10 months and then make $22,560 in the last 2 months without penalty. Also, I've found that the SSA's Annual Earnings Test calculator on their website is pretty helpful for running different scenarios - you can play around with different income levels to see exactly how it would affect your benefits. Just search for "earnings test calculator" on ssa.gov. It really helped me visualize the impact before making my decision!

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Thanks for mentioning the SSA's earnings test calculator! I'm just starting to navigate all of this as someone completely new to Social Security planning, and having an actual tool to run scenarios sounds incredibly helpful. I had no idea that after the first year you could theoretically bunch all your earnings into just a couple months as long as you stay under the annual limit - that's a really interesting planning strategy I hadn't considered. I'm definitely going to check out that calculator on ssa.gov. As a newcomer to this whole process, I'm finding this community discussion way more informative than anything I've been able to find in the official SSA materials. It's amazing how many nuances and practical tips there are that you only learn from people who've actually been through it!

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Drew Hathaway

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As someone new to this community and approaching 62 myself, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences here! This thread has been incredibly educational. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all the different rules and calculations, but reading about everyone's real-world experiences with the earnings limit has been so much more helpful than the confusing official SSA materials I've been struggling through. It's clear there are a lot of nuances and strategies that you only learn from people who've actually navigated this system. I'm bookmarking this discussion to reference as I start planning my own early retirement timeline. The tips about being conservative with earnings estimates, understanding the grace year monthly limit, and keeping detailed records are exactly the kind of practical advice I needed. Thanks again to this community for being such a valuable resource!

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Aiden O'Connor

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and have been learning so much from everyone's shared experiences. It really is amazing how complex the Social Security system is - there are so many rules and exceptions that aren't clearly explained in the official materials. I've been taking notes on all the tips mentioned in this thread, especially about the grace year rule and the importance of being proactive about reporting expected earnings. It's reassuring to know there are communities like this where people are willing to share their real-world knowledge to help others navigate these decisions. Good luck with your planning!

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Logan Stewart

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As a newcomer to this community, I just have to say this thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm 61 and planning to claim benefits next year, and honestly, I was completely overwhelmed trying to understand the earnings limit rules from the SSA website. The way everyone has broken down the different scenarios - the annual vs monthly limits, the grace year rule, what income actually counts, and all the practical tips about reporting earnings upfront - has made this so much clearer. I had no idea about things like the timing of vacation payouts mattering, or that withheld benefits aren't actually "lost" but get credited back at FRA. I'm definitely going to use that earnings test calculator mentioned and be very conservative with my estimates. It's amazing how much real-world wisdom is shared here that you just can't get from official sources. Thank you all for creating such a supportive space for people navigating these complex decisions!

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