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Javier Hernandez

Social Security earnings limit at 62 with pension and part-time job - how much can I make?

I'm planning to start collecting Social Security next year when I turn 62. I currently receive a pension of $2,800/month from my previous employer (state government) and I work part-time at a local hardware store making about $1,100/month. I've heard there's some earnings limit before they reduce your SS benefits when you claim early, but I'm confused about whether my pension counts toward this limit or just my part-time job income. I don't want to lose my SS benefits, but I also can't afford to quit my part-time job completely. Does anyone know the maximum I can earn in 2025 before they start reducing my Social Security? And does the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) affect this too? I'm so confused about all these different rules!

Emma Davis

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Good questions! For 2025, the earnings limit for someone who is under full retirement age for the entire year is $22,320. Only your wages from your part-time job count toward this limit, NOT your pension. So your $1,100/month ($13,200/year) part-time job is under the limit and shouldn't cause any reduction in your SS benefits. However, there are two separate issues you need to consider: 1. The earnings limit only applies to WAGES from a job, not pension income. 2. Since you mentioned a government pension, you might be subject to the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) which is completely different from the earnings limit. WEP can reduce your SS benefit amount if you receive a pension from work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes. This isn't affected by your current earnings - it's a separate calculation.

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Thank you! That helps a lot! So my part-time income won't be a problem since it's well under $22,320. But now I'm worried about this WEP thing. My pension is from 23 years working for the state highway department where I didn't pay into Social Security. Will this significantly reduce my SS benefits from the 15 years I worked in the private sector?

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LunarLegend

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My brother got hit hard by that WEP thing! He worked for city government for 25 years and then found out his social security from his other jobs got cut by like 40%!! Its totally unfair how they do this to people. You might want to talk to someone at SSA directly before you make any decisions.

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Malik Jackson

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Same thing happened to my cousin! The government is basically stealing the money we worked for. Its not right!!!

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Just FYI the earnings limit is different if you reach full retirement age during the year vs. being under FRA the whole year. What year were you born? That determines your FRA.

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I was born in 1963, so I think my FRA is 67. I'm definitely going to be under FRA for several years.

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Ravi Patel

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To give you more precise information about the WEP reduction: The maximum WEP reduction for someone reaching age 62 in 2025 is $578 per month, but the actual reduction depends on how many "substantial earnings" years you have where you paid into Social Security. With 15 years in the private sector, your WEP reduction would likely be less than the maximum. For the earnings test: If you exceed the $22,320 annual limit, Social Security will withhold $1 for every $2 you earn above the limit. Since your part-time job only pays about $13,200 annually, you're well under the threshold. You should also check if you might be subject to the Government Pension Offset (GPO), which is different from WEP and affects spousal/survivor benefits if you're married. I'd recommend creating a my Social Security account online and getting a personalized estimate that accounts for your government pension.

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Thanks for explaining this! I do have a my Social Security account but it doesn't show any WEP reduction in the estimates. Does this mean I might not be affected by WEP after all?

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The my Social Security account estimates don't automatically factor in WEP or GPO reductions. You need to contact SSA directly to get an accurate calculation that considers your government pension. I was in a similar situation last year and tried calling SSA for WEEKS without getting through. After getting disconnected multiple times, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It was worth it because the agent gave me a detailed breakdown of how WEP would affect my specific situation, which was really different from what I expected based on the online estimate. Definitely recommend getting the specific calculation for your situation.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been dreading calling them because I've heard the wait times are horrible. I'll check out that service if I can't get through on my own.

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Omar Zaki

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im pretty sure pensions DO count toward the limit!!! my uncle told me his pension and social secuirty combined couldnt go over some amount or they took money away. Its all about total income i think

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Ravi Patel

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That's not correct. The earnings limit only applies to wages from work, not pension income. Your uncle might be confusing this with taxation of benefits (up to 85% of SS benefits can be taxable if combined income exceeds certain thresholds) or possibly the WEP/GPO provisions that affect people with certain government pensions.

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Malik Jackson

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Does anyone know if the earnings limit goes up each year? I'm turning 62 in 2026 and wondering if I should wait a year if the limit will be higher then.

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Emma Davis

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Yes, the earnings limit is adjusted annually based on national wage increases. The 2025 limit of $22,320 is higher than the 2024 limit of $21,240. So 2026 will likely be higher than 2025, but the exact amount won't be announced until later next year.

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I'm getting confused again with all this information. Let me see if I understand: 1. My part-time job earnings ($1,100/month) won't affect my SS benefits because they're under the limit 2. My pension doesn't count toward the earnings limit 3. BUT my pension might cause my SS benefit to be reduced because of WEP 4. The online calculator doesn't show this reduction Do I need to visit a Social Security office in person to get the correct information? Or is calling better?

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Ravi Patel

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You've got it exactly right! For your specific situation with the government pension, calling or visiting in person would be best. You need to speak with someone who can calculate your WEP reduction based on your specific work history. Ask them to provide a WEP calculation that accounts for your state government pension and your years of substantial earnings under Social Security.

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LunarLegend

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Be prepared for them to give you different answers depending on who you talk to!!! I had to call SSA three times and got three different explanations about my benefits. It's ridiculous how confusing they make everything!

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Just to add one more thing - make sure you have your most recent Social Security statement, your pension award letter, and maybe your last few years of W-2s handy when you call. Makes the process go much faster when you have all the documentation ready.

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Malik Jackson

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good point! they always ask for more paperwork than you expect

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Emma Davis

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To summarize everything in this thread: 1. Earnings limit for 2025 if under FRA whole year: $22,320 (only wages count, not pension) 2. Your part-time job earnings are about $13,200/year, so you're under the limit 3. You likely face a WEP reduction due to your government pension 4. The WEP reduction depends on your years of "substantial earnings" under Social Security 5. The online calculator doesn't automatically show WEP reductions 6. You should contact SSA directly for an accurate calculation Based on what you've shared, you can definitely continue your part-time job without losing SS benefits to the earnings limit. The WEP reduction will happen regardless of whether you work or not, so that shouldn't affect your decision about the part-time job.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! This has been incredibly helpful. I'll contact SSA to get the exact WEP calculation, but I'm relieved to know my part-time job won't cause any additional reductions.

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Michael Green

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to consider the timing of when you apply for Social Security. Since you're planning to start collecting at 62, you'll be taking a permanent reduction in your monthly benefit amount (around 25-30% less than your full retirement age benefit). With WEP potentially reducing your benefit even further, it might be worth running the numbers to see if delaying your claim by even a year or two could significantly improve your monthly income, especially since your part-time job and pension are covering your current expenses. Every year you delay past 62 increases your benefit by about 6-8% until you reach full retirement age. Just something to consider as part of your overall planning - sometimes the math works out better to wait even if you're eligible early.

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Liam Murphy

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That's a really good point about the timing! I hadn't thought about how delaying could help offset some of the WEP reduction. Since I'm comfortable financially right now with my pension and part-time job, maybe I should get the exact WEP calculation first and then run some scenarios comparing claiming at 62 vs 63 or 64. Do you know if there are any online calculators that can factor in WEP when comparing different claiming ages?

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Bruno Simmons

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I don't think there are any free online calculators that accurately handle WEP calculations with different claiming ages - it's one of those complex scenarios where the SSA's own systems are really your best bet. However, you can get a good sense of the trade-offs by requesting a detailed benefit estimate from SSA that shows your projected benefits at different claiming ages, then asking them to apply the WEP reduction to each scenario. Another approach is to use the SSA's own retirement estimator and then manually subtract the WEP reduction amount (which they should be able to calculate for you) from each age scenario. Since you mentioned having 15 years of substantial earnings under Social Security, your WEP reduction might be in the $300-400 range rather than the maximum $578, but definitely get the exact number from them. Given that you're financially stable now, running those numbers could be really valuable. Even a year or two of delay could potentially offset a significant portion of the WEP reduction through the delayed retirement credits.

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Aisha Hussain

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This is exactly the kind of strategic thinking I needed! I've been so focused on just getting my benefits started that I didn't really consider how the math might work out differently if I wait. Given that my current income from pension + part-time work is meeting my needs, it sounds like I should definitely get that WEP calculation first and then ask SSA to show me what my benefits would look like at 63, 64, etc. with the WEP reduction applied. If waiting even just one year could bump up my monthly benefit enough to offset some of that WEP hit, it might be worth it in the long run. Thanks for suggesting this approach - it gives me a much better framework for making this decision!

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