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Freya Collins

PA UC suddenly reviewed my 2022 claim - Non-Fraud Overpayment notice and hearing scheduled - What to expect?

I'm freaking out after checking my mail yesterday! PA Unemployment just sent me FIVE letters claiming I have a non-fraud overpayment from my 2022 claim for $4,200. Apparently they're doing some kind of audit of older claims? I filed everything correctly back then and provided all the documentation they asked for! I immediately filed an appeal online and uploaded my income verification docs, work history, and separation papers to my dashboard. They've already scheduled a hearing for next month. Has anyone dealt with this kind of delayed review? Should I hire a lawyer for the hearing? I can't afford to pay back that much money for their mistake! This feels so unfair - I answered everything honestly when I applied in 2022. Does anyone know what happens at these hearings or how likely I am to win my appeal? I'm losing sleep over this.

LongPeri

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Yes, PA UC has been doing these reviews of older claims from 2021-2022. I had the same thing happen last month - got a non-fraud overpayment notice for $3,750 from my claim that ended in 2022. The good news is that non-fraud means they don't think you purposely did anything wrong. The hearing is usually with a referee who will review your evidence and ask questions about your eligibility during that period. Make sure you have: 1. All income documentation from that time 2. Your work search records if you have them 3. Any emails or messages between you and your employer about separation 4. Any prior communications with UC Bring everything organized by date. The referee will want to know exactly why you think the overpayment determination is incorrect.

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Freya Collins

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Thank you so much for this detailed answer! Did you win your appeal? I have most of these documents but I'm worried about the work search records - I don't think I kept them this long...

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Oscar O'Neil

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OMG this happened 2 me too!!!!1! Got 7 LETTERS all at once saying i owe $5600 from 2021!!! The system is BROKEN! I didnt do anythng wrong either they approved me then and now they want money back??? The hearing was actualy not that bad tho, the lady was nice but you NEED TO BRING EVERYTHING. they asked me a ton of questions about my income from back then and i didnt have half the stuff they wanted.

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What happened with your case? Did they make you pay back the money or did they drop it? I'm worried they're going to garnish my tax returns if I lose.

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i think they are just trying to get money back from people who cant fight it. my cousin got same letter but ignored it and nothing happened lol

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Liv Park

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Please do NOT ignore UC overpayment notices. PA can and will garnish your wages, take your tax refunds, and even add interest to what you owe. Always file an appeal if you believe the determination is incorrect and attend the hearing, even if you think it's their mistake.

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now! Filed my appeal two weeks ago and my hearing is next Monday. I'm terrified because I can't find all my documentation from back then. Does anyone know if they record these hearings? I want to make sure I don't say anything that could hurt my case accidentally.

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LongPeri

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Yes, all PA UC appeal hearings are recorded. The referee will tell you this at the beginning. Just stick to the facts, answer questions truthfully, and don't volunteer extra information they don't ask for. It's basically like a very informal court proceeding.

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Liv Park

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I'm a former PA UC claims examiner, and I can tell you these retroactive reviews happen in cycles. After the pandemic benefits ended, they're going back to verify eligibility for claims that may have been rushed through during the high-volume period. For your hearing: 1. The burden of proof is on PA UC to show why you weren't eligible, not on you to prove you were eligible (though having documentation helps) 2. Make sure to focus on the specific reason for the overpayment stated in your determination letter - is it income verification? Work search? Availability for work? Only address what they're actually questioning 3. You don't necessarily need a lawyer, but having someone who understands the regulations can help if your case is complex or involves large sums 4. Even if you lose, you can request a waiver of repayment based on financial hardship or request a minimal payment plan Good luck with your hearing!

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Freya Collins

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This is so helpful! The determination letter mentions "insufficient proof of employment" even though I submitted my W2s and paystubs at the time. I'll make sure to bring extra copies of everything. Is there anything specific I should say at the beginning of the hearing?

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I went through this last year and it was a nightmare trying to reach someone at UC to explain my situation before the hearing. Spent days calling that 888 number only to get busy signals or disconnected after waiting on hold for hours. I finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a UC rep within 30 minutes! They have this whole system that basically keeps dialing for you until they get through. Saved me so much stress. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2 Once I actually talked to someone, they explained exactly what documentation I needed for my hearing and it made a huge difference. Sometimes just getting clear information before the hearing can help you prepare properly.

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Ryder Greene

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Is that service legit? Seems sketchy to pay someone just to make phone calls. Did you have to give them your personal info?

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It's definitely legitimate - you just enter your phone number and they connect you to PA UC. They don't need any of your claim information. They just solve the phone connection problem. Really useful when you're running out of time before a hearing.

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Oscar O'Neil

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My sister had the exact same thing and she WON her appeal but it took like 2 months to get the decision!!!!! The system is INSANE. Theyre just hoping people will get scared and pay them back without fighting!!!!!

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Freya Collins

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That gives me hope! Do you know what evidence your sister brought that helped her win?

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Oscar O'Neil

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she had everything in a folder like super organized! all her paystubs, layoff letter, emails with her boss, and she printed out all her weekly claim confirmations from her email!!

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Ryder Greene

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just wondering... has anybody had their wages garnished after losing one of these appeals? asking for a friend.......

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Liv Park

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Yes, PA UC can and does garnish wages after overpayment decisions become final. However, they typically first send several notices and offer payment plans before taking that step. Your friend should absolutely respond to all notices and attend any hearings rather than ignore the situation.

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Freya Collins

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Update: I just got off the phone with PA UC (took forever to get through). They said the issue is that they couldn't verify my employment dates with my former employer. Apparently my employer told them I quit (not true - I was laid off) and now it's my word against theirs. I'm gathering emails from coworkers who were laid off at the same time to bring to the hearing. The agent said bringing witnesses who can testify I was laid off would help a lot. This is so stressful, but at least now I know exactly what I'm fighting. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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LongPeri

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That's great you got clarity! Witness statements can definitely help. See if any former supervisors would be willing to provide a written statement about your layoff. Also bring any communication about the layoff - texts, emails, termination letter, etc. The more evidence the better!

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anybody know if these hearings can be done over the phone or do you have to go in person? my letter says something about options but its not clear

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Liv Park

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Most PA UC hearings are currently being conducted by phone, though you can request an in-person hearing if you prefer. The notice should include instructions for how to submit exhibits electronically before the hearing. Make sure to follow those instructions exactly so your evidence is considered.

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Noah Torres

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I'm dealing with something similar right now - got hit with a $3,100 overpayment notice from my 2022 claim just last week. Like you, I'm pretty sure I did everything right the first time around. One thing that's been helping me prepare is going through my old emails to find EVERYTHING related to my claim from back then. I found weekly certification confirmations, correspondence with UC, and even some screenshots I took of my dashboard. Also, if you still have access to your online UC account, log in and see if any of your old documents are still stored there. I was able to download some stuff I thought was long gone. The stress is real though - I've been losing sleep too. But from what I'm reading here, it sounds like people who come prepared with good documentation have a decent chance of winning these appeals. We got this!

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