PA UC overpayment appeal hearing - any success stories? Worth fighting?
I just got hit with a $4,800 overpayment notice from PA UC saying I wasn't eligible for benefits I received last summer. They're claiming I didn't report some part-time income correctly, but I swear I reported everything exactly as they asked! I've filed an appeal and have my hearing scheduled for next Tuesday in Harrisburg (2 hour drive each way for me). Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if I'm just wasting my time and gas money. The letter makes it sound like they've already decided I'm guilty. Has anyone actually WON one of these appeal hearings for overpayment? What evidence did you bring? Did you have a lawyer? I'm stressing about this because there's no way I can pay back nearly $5K right now.
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Liam Fitzgerald
Yes! I won my overpayment appeal last month. They claimed I received $3,700 I wasn't entitled to because of a job separation issue. Bring EVERYTHING to your hearing - all your weekly certification printouts, any emails from employers, pay stubs that show your reported income, and any communications with UC. The referee actually listened to my side and reversed the decision. Don't give up before you try!
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Mei Wong
•That's encouraging! Did you speak with a UC rep before the hearing to understand exactly what they were claiming was wrong? I've been trying to call for 3 days straight but can't get through.
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PixelWarrior
i had one of these last yr... total waste of time tbh. referee just rubber stamped whatever UC said. they said i owed 5200 and now its garnishing my tax returns
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Amara Adebayo
•This isn't necessarily true for everyone. The referees are supposed to be independent from the UC decision-makers. Each case is unique and depends on the specific circumstances and evidence presented. Don't discourage someone from trying!
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Giovanni Rossi
If you reported everything correctly and can prove it, ABSOLUTELY go to the hearing. I represented clients in these hearings before. The UC system often makes mistakes especially with part-time income reporting because their system is confusing. Bring all pay stubs, any screenshots of your weekly certifications, and a clear timeline of when you worked and what you reported. The burden of proof is technically on them to show you misreported, not on you to prove innocence.
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Mei Wong
•Thank you for this! Question - should I write out a statement to read at the hearing? I get really nervous and worried I'll forget important details.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
Got hit with this same thing about 6 months ago... UC said I didn't report 2 weeks of income but I DID and they still forced me to pay back $1,900!!!! The whole system is rigged!!!
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PixelWarrior
•same happened 2 me... they just want our $$$
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Dylan Evans
If you truly reported everything correctly, then it's definitely worth appealing. Try using Claimyr to reach a PA UC representative before your hearing (claimyr.com). I was in a similar situation and couldn't get through on the phone for days, but Claimyr connected me in about 20 minutes. I was able to talk to someone who explained exactly what documentation I needed for my hearing. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. Knowing exactly what the issue was before my hearing made a huge difference.
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Mei Wong
•I've never heard of this service - does it actually work? I'm desperate to talk to someone before Tuesday.
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Dylan Evans
Yes, definitely bring a written statement! I'm a former paralegal (not a lawyer) and have helped people with these hearings. Having notes keeps you on track when you're nervous. Also prepare a list of exactly which documents prove each point. UC overpayment appeals can absolutely be won if you have good documentation. The referee does NOT just rubber stamp decisions in my experience.
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Mei Wong
•Thank you! I'm going to spend the weekend organizing everything and writing out my statement.
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Sofia Gomez
did u report ur gross or net income? i got hit with overpayment because i was reporting my take-home pay and not the gross amount. super confusing on the weekly claims form.
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Mei Wong
•OMG this might be my exact problem!! I was reporting what actually hit my bank account each week, not my gross pay. Is there any way to fix this without paying everything back?
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Amara Adebayo
UC overpayment appeals can be won, but you need to understand exactly what they're claiming you did wrong. Common issues include: 1. Reporting net vs. gross income (you must report gross) 2. Misreporting when you actually received income vs. when you earned it 3. Not reporting all work hours even if unpaid 4. Issues with availability for work If this was an honest mistake like reporting net instead of gross, you might be able to get a fault overpayment (which can be paid back over time) instead of a fraud determination (which has penalties). Definitely attend your hearing!
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Mei Wong
•This is really helpful. I think it might be the net vs. gross issue. I had no idea I was supposed to report gross - the questions on the weekly certification just asked about "income" and I assumed that meant what I actually received after taxes.
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StormChaser
lol my cousin works for pa uc and says dont even bother fighting they never reverse these decisions
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Giovanni Rossi
•This is absolutely incorrect information. I've personally seen many overpayment determinations reversed through the appeal process. The referees are independent from UC and make their own decisions based on evidence presented. Please don't spread misinformation that could prevent people from exercising their legal rights to appeal.
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Liam Fitzgerald
@OP - regarding your question about using Claimyr - yes, I used it too when I couldn't get through to ask questions before my hearing. Worth it just to understand what documentation they needed me to bring. The UC rep I finally spoke with actually gave me some tips about how to organize my evidence for the referee.
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Mei Wong
•Thanks for confirming! I'm going to try it today. I need to know exactly what they think I did wrong so I can prepare properly.
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Dylan Evans
If it is indeed a net vs. gross reporting issue, bring your pay stubs showing both numbers. Explain that you misunderstood the requirement but were not trying to defraud the system. The referee may find it was a non-fault overpayment, which means you'd still have to repay but without penalties and with the option of a reasonable payment plan. I've seen many cases like this work out okay for the claimant.
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Mei Wong
•Update: I was able to reach someone at UC and you were right - they said I reported my net income instead of gross for 12 weeks of part-time work. The rep explained I'd still need to attend the hearing but should bring all my pay stubs showing both numbers. She said the referee often converts these to non-fault overpayments. Feeling less panicked now!
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