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Arjun Patel

PA UC eligibility after termination for attendance points - can I still qualify?

So I just got fired from my warehouse job yesterday after accumulating too many attendance points. I was 2 points over their limit (got 8, limit was 6). Thing is, I had legit reasons for most of my absences - my car broke down twice, had a family emergency, and got sick once but they wouldn't accept my doctor's note because it was submitted a day late. I'm wondering if I can still qualify for PA unemployment since technically I was fired for breaking company policy? I really need something to help while I look for a new job. Has anyone been in a similar situation with the points system and successfully gotten benefits? This is my first time dealing with unemployment so I'm completely lost about what counts as misconduct vs. just not meeting their attendance expectations.

Yes, you can likely qualify. In PA, being fired for attendance points is often NOT considered willful misconduct if you had legitimate reasons for your absences. The key is whether you violated the policy deliberately or if there were circumstances beyond your control. Make sure to explain all your reasons (car trouble, family emergency, illness) when you file. PA UC will contact your employer for their side, so be prepared to provide any documentation you have of those legitimate reasons. They'll make a determination based on both accounts.

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Thank you! That's a huge relief. Should I upload my doctor's note with my initial claim even though my employer rejected it? And what about the car breakdowns - I have repair receipts but not sure if that's enough?

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I got fired 4 attendance points at my job 2 yrs ago. Got UC no problem!!

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That's good to hear! Did they make you do any kind of interview or hearing about it?

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ya they called me like 2 weeks after i applied. just asked why i missed work & i told them truth. got approved next day

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You might qualify but it all depends on the details. My sister-in-law got denied after being fired for attendance even though she had reasons because her employer showed she had been warned multiple times. They considered that willful misconduct. You should definitely apply though because it really depends on the specific UC examiner who reviews your case and how your employer presents their side.

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That's concerning... I did get warnings when I hit 4 points and then 6 points. Do you know if she appealed the decision? I'm wondering if it would be worth trying even if I get denied initially.

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To give you the most accurate information: Pennsylvania UC examines whether your actions constitute "willful misconduct" when determining eligibility after termination. For attendance issues, they look at: 1. Did you have good cause for the absences? 2. Were you aware of the employer's attendance policy? 3. Did you take reasonable steps to notify your employer? Make sure you gather documentation for all your absences - doctor's notes, car repair receipts, any text messages where you notified managers, etc. Submit everything with your initial claim. Also, be completely honest about receiving warnings - lying will definitely disqualify you. In my experience assisting people with claims, attendance point systems often result in approved claims if you had legitimate reasons and followed proper call-off procedures, even with prior warnings.

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This is super helpful, thank you! I did follow the call-off procedure every time and have texts confirming I notified my supervisor. I'll gather all my documentation before I file.

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When I got fired from Giant Eagle last year for points they said I didn't qualify but then my friend told me I should've appealed it cause his brother got approved in the same situation but I didn't know you could do that so I missed my chance :

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ALWAYS APPEAL!! UC denies so many people automatically hoping they won't fight back. The system is designed to discourage you. I've had 3 successful appeals over the years.

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I was in your exact situation in January - fired for attendance points from my manufacturing job. Applied for UC and got denied initially. BUT then I appealed and had a hearing where I explained all my absences (childcare issues, car problems). The referee overturned the decision and I got approved! The key thing the referee kept asking was if I followed the call-off procedure and if I had documentation. So definitely apply and be prepared to appeal if needed. Good luck!

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This is so reassuring to hear your success story! How long did the appeal process take from when you were initially denied?

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It took almost 6 weeks from denial to getting the appeal hearing, then about 10 days after that to get the decision. The waiting was definitely stressful, but worth it in the end. Make sure you immediately request the appeal as soon as you get a denial - you only have 15 days!

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One thing I forgot to mention - while you're waiting for a determination, you still need to file your biweekly claims. A lot of people don't realize this and miss out on payments they would've been eligible for if their appeal is successful. So even if your initial application is pending or denied, keep filing every two weeks!

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Thank you - I definitely wouldn't have known to do that!

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I've heard the phone system is a nightmare. Thanks for the tip - I'll check it out if I run into issues getting through.

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Yeah it's legit. After 3 days of constant redials I was desperate. They just help you skip the busy signal nightmare. The actual conversation is still directly with a UC rep.

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Just so you know, LOTS of people get denied the first time around - it's practically routine at this point. The system is designed to discourage people from following through. If you get denied initially, don't panic and definitely appeal. I was denied twice before finally getting approved after explaining my situation to an actual person during the hearing. The trick is to be persistent and document EVERYTHING.

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THIS!!! The system is BROKEN BY DESIGN! They count on people giving up. I know someone who works for UC and they told me they're trained to look for any reason to deny first-time claims. It's disgusting how they treat people who just need help during a tough time.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice! I've started gathering all my documentation - found my doctor's note, text messages showing I followed call-off procedures, and car repair receipts. Going to file my initial claim tomorrow and prepare for a possible appeal just in case. I'll keep filing the biweekly claims regardless of the initial decision. Fingers crossed it all works out!

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Good luck @Arjun Patel! You've got solid documentation and legitimate reasons for your absences - that puts you in a much better position than many people. Just remember that even if you get an initial denial, it doesn't mean you won't ultimately qualify. The appeal process exists for exactly these kinds of situations where there are extenuating circumstances. Stay positive and don't let the system discourage you from fighting for what you're entitled to. Keep us updated on how it goes!

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Absolutely agree with @Dyllan Nantx - having documentation is huge! One more thing that helped me when I was in a similar situation: make sure you emphasize that you were following company policy by calling off when you couldn t'make it to work. The fact that you have text messages proving you notified your supervisor shows you were being responsible, not just skipping work. That distinction really matters to UC examiners. Also, don t'be discouraged if the process takes a while - PA UC is notoriously slow but they do eventually get through everything. You re'doing all the right things!

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You're in a good position with legitimate reasons for your absences! I was fired for attendance points from my retail job about 6 months ago and successfully got UC benefits. The key things that helped me: 1) I had documentation for every absence (doctor notes, family emergency texts, etc.), 2) I followed proper call-off procedures each time, and 3) I was completely honest about the warnings I received. PA UC really does look at whether you had "good cause" for the absences rather than just the fact that you exceeded the point limit. Make sure to file your claim ASAP and include all your documentation right from the start. Even if you get initially denied, don't give up - the appeal process is there for exactly these situations where circumstances were beyond your control. You've got this!

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Thanks @Natalie Adams! It's really encouraging to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation and came out successful. I'm definitely going to emphasize that I followed all the proper procedures and had legitimate reasons. Quick question - when you say you included documentation "right from the start," did you upload everything during the initial online application, or did you mail it separately? I want to make sure I'm submitting everything the right way so there's no confusion later on.

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I went through something very similar last year when I got terminated for attendance points at my warehouse job. Had 9 points when the limit was 7, but most were due to legitimate issues - sick kid, car troubles, etc. I was really worried about qualifying for UC benefits, but I ended up getting approved after about 3 weeks. The key things that helped me were: keeping all my documentation organized (doctor notes, repair receipts, screenshots of texts to my supervisor), being completely honest about the warnings I received, and explaining the circumstances behind each absence when they contacted me for the phone interview. PA UC really does consider whether you had "good cause" for the absences rather than just looking at the policy violation. Your situation sounds very similar to mine, so I'd say you have a good chance of qualifying. Just make sure to apply soon and be thorough with your documentation. Even if you get denied initially, definitely appeal - I know several people who got approved on appeal even after being denied the first time. The system can be frustrating but it does work if you persist!

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@Sergio Neal this is exactly what I needed to hear! Your situation sounds almost identical to mine - warehouse job, exceeded points by 2, legitimate reasons for most absences. It s'such a relief to know that PA UC actually does look at the circumstances and not just the policy violation. I m'curious about the phone interview you mentioned - how long after you filed did they call you, and what kinds of questions did they ask? I want to be as prepared as possible when they contact me. Also, did you have any issues with your employer disputing your claim or trying to make it seem worse than it was? I m'a bit worried they might exaggerate things to avoid paying into the UC system.

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I'm in almost the exact same boat as you! Just got terminated from my logistics job last week for hitting 9 attendance points (their limit was 7). Like you, I had legitimate reasons - two instances of car trouble, one family emergency when my mom was hospitalized, and a few sick days where I had doctor's notes. I'm really nervous about applying for UC because this is my first time too, but reading everyone's responses here is giving me hope. It sounds like PA actually does look at the circumstances behind the absences rather than just the fact that we exceeded the point limits. I'm going to start gathering all my documentation today - repair receipts, hospital paperwork for my mom, doctor's notes, and screenshots of my texts to my supervisor when I called off. Thanks for posting this question because I was too scared to ask myself! Definitely going to apply this week and prepare for a possible appeal if needed. Fingers crossed for both of us!

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@Aisha Khan I m'so glad this thread is helping you too! It s'crazy how similar our situations are - the stress of being fired for attendance points when you actually had valid reasons is awful. I ve'been gathering all my documentation today and it s'actually making me feel more confident about my case. Having all those receipts and medical paperwork really shows that these weren t'just random absences. One thing I learned from reading everyone s'advice is to make sure we both keep filing those biweekly claims even if we get initially denied - apparently that s'super important for getting back payments if our appeals are successful. Let s'both apply this week and keep each other updated on how it goes! It feels less scary knowing someone else is going through the exact same thing at the same time.

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to add some encouragement - your situation with legitimate reasons for most absences actually puts you in a strong position for PA UC approval. The fact that you have documentation (doctor's note, repair receipts, family emergency details) and followed proper call-off procedures is huge. I work in HR and see these cases regularly - PA UC examiners really do differentiate between willful misconduct and circumstances beyond your control. A few tips: when you file, be very specific about each absence and the documentation you have. Don't just say "car trouble" - explain that your vehicle broke down requiring emergency repairs, you notified your supervisor immediately, and you have receipts proving it was legitimate. The more detailed you are about following procedures and having valid reasons, the better your chances. Also, even though your employer rejected the late doctor's note, PA UC operates independently and may still consider it valid evidence of illness. Apply as soon as possible and don't be discouraged if there's an initial denial - the appeal process exists exactly for situations like yours where there are extenuating circumstances!

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@Natasha Volkova thank you so much for the HR perspective! That s'really valuable insight about how PA UC examiners actually evaluate these cases. I love your suggestion about being specific with the details - I was planning to just briefly mention car "trouble but" you re'right that explaining it was an emergency breakdown with immediate supervisor notification and repair receipts makes it sound much more legitimate. It s'also encouraging to hear that PA UC might still consider my doctor s'note even though my employer rejected it for being a day late. I m'definitely going to be very detailed when I file my claim tomorrow and include all the specifics about following procedures for each absence. Your comment about the appeal process existing for exactly these situations gives me a lot of confidence. Thanks for taking the time to share your professional experience with this!

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Reading through all these responses is giving me so much hope! I was in a very similar situation about 8 months ago - got terminated from my warehouse job for hitting 10 attendance points when the limit was 8. Like many of you, I had legitimate reasons: two instances of car breakdowns (major transmission issues), one family emergency when my dad had a heart attack, and a couple sick days with doctor documentation. I was terrified about applying for UC because I thought being fired for policy violation would automatically disqualify me. But I applied anyway and got approved after about 4 weeks! The examiner who called me was actually very understanding and focused on whether I had good cause for each absence rather than just the fact that I exceeded the point limit. What really helped was having all my documentation ready - repair invoices, hospital discharge papers for my dad, doctor's notes, and screenshots showing I texted my supervisor each time I had to call off. Even though I had received warnings at 6 and 8 points, the examiner said that didn't matter because my absences were due to circumstances beyond my control. To everyone in similar situations - definitely apply and don't let the fear of denial stop you. PA UC really does look at the full picture, not just the surface-level policy violation!

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@Diego Rojas your story is incredibly reassuring! It s'amazing that you had such a similar situation with even more points 10 (vs your limit of 8 and) still got approved. The fact that the examiner focused on good cause rather than just the policy violation gives me so much confidence. I love how you mentioned having all the documentation ready when they called - I ve'been organizing everything today and it s'actually making me feel much more prepared. The detail about warnings not mattering when circumstances were beyond your control is huge for me since I also received warnings. Thanks for sharing your success story - it really helps to know that PA UC does look at the full picture like you said!

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I was in your exact situation 6 months ago - fired from my warehouse job for exceeding attendance points (had 9, limit was 7) but with legitimate reasons like you. Car broke down twice, had to take care of my sick daughter, and one medical absence. I was so worried about applying for UC because I thought being terminated for policy violation meant automatic denial. But I got approved! The key things that helped me: 1) I had documentation for every absence (repair receipts, doctor notes, texts to supervisor), 2) I was completely honest about the warnings I received, and 3) I emphasized that I followed proper call-off procedures each time. The UC examiner who interviewed me said they look at whether you had "good cause" for the absences, not just whether you broke company policy. Your situation sounds very similar to mine with legitimate reasons and proper notification. Definitely apply ASAP and gather all your documentation. Even if you get initially denied, appeal it - the system is designed to discourage people but you have a strong case with documented reasons beyond your control. You've got this!

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@Dmitry Petrov this is exactly what I needed to hear! Your situation with 9 points vs a 7 limit and still getting approved gives me so much hope. It s'really encouraging that the UC examiner specifically said they look at good "cause rather" than just policy violations. I ve'been so stressed thinking that being fired for attendance automatically disqualifies you, but hearing all these success stories from people with legitimate reasons is incredibly reassuring. I m'definitely going to emphasize the proper call-off procedures and documentation when I file - it sounds like that really makes a difference. Thanks for sharing your experience and the encouragement!

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I'm in a really similar situation - just got terminated from my retail job for attendance points (had 7, limit was 5). Most of my absences were due to childcare issues when my babysitter canceled last minute and a few sick days with doctor's notes. Reading all these success stories is giving me hope that I might actually qualify for UC benefits! It's so reassuring to see that PA UC really does look at whether you had legitimate reasons rather than just the policy violation. I'm going to start gathering all my documentation - doctor's notes, texts to my manager showing I followed call-off procedures, and anything else that proves my absences weren't just me being irresponsible. Thanks for asking this question @Arjun Patel - this whole thread has been incredibly helpful for those of us dealing with similar situations!

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@Adrian Hughes I m'so glad this thread is helping you too! Your situation with childcare issues and documented sick days sounds like you have a really strong case. From everything I ve'learned reading all these responses, having those text messages showing you followed proper call-off procedures is going to be huge for your claim. The fact that PA UC looks at good "cause rather" than just policy violations gives me so much confidence for all of us dealing with this. It s'crazy how many people are in similar situations with legitimate reasons but were worried they wouldn t'qualify. Definitely apply soon and don t'let an initial denial discourage you if it happens - sounds like the appeal process really works for cases like ours. Keep us posted on how it goes!

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I just want to say how helpful this entire thread has been! I'm in a similar situation - got terminated from my manufacturing job last week for exceeding attendance points (had 8, limit was 6). Like so many others here, most of my absences were due to legitimate reasons: car breakdowns, family emergency when my grandmother was hospitalized, and a few sick days with proper documentation. Reading all these success stories from people who got approved despite being fired for attendance points has given me the confidence to actually apply. I was convinced that being terminated for policy violation would be an automatic denial, but it's clear that PA UC really does evaluate whether you had "good cause" for your absences. I'm going to gather all my documentation (repair receipts, hospital paperwork, doctor's notes, texts showing I followed call-off procedures) and file my claim this week. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's amazing how many of us are dealing with the exact same situation!

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@Mateo Martinez I m'so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! Your situation with 8 points vs a 6 limit and legitimate reasons like car breakdowns and family emergency sounds very similar to what so many of us are dealing with. It s'been incredible to see all these success stories from people who initially thought they wouldn t'qualify but ended up getting approved. The fact that you have hospital paperwork for your grandmother and repair receipts really strengthens your case - that kind of documentation seems to make a huge difference with PA UC examiners. I love how supportive everyone has been in this thread sharing their experiences and encouraging each other. It really shows that we re'not alone in these situations and that the system does work when you have legitimate reasons and proper documentation. Good luck with your claim and definitely keep us updated on how it goes!

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I'm in almost the exact same situation as you! Just got fired yesterday from my distribution center job for hitting 9 attendance points when their limit was 7. Most of my absences were legitimate too - had COVID twice (with positive tests), my daughter was in the hospital for a week, and my car transmission died. I've been reading through all these responses and it's giving me so much hope that we might actually qualify for UC benefits despite being fired for attendance. It sounds like PA really does look at whether you had "good cause" for your absences rather than just the policy violation. I'm going to start gathering all my documentation today - COVID test results, hospital records, repair estimates, and all my text messages to my supervisor showing I followed proper call-off procedures. Thanks for posting this question because I was too scared to ask myself! Reading everyone's success stories has convinced me to apply this week. We've got this!

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@Ella Cofer wow, your situation sounds incredibly stressful but you definitely have strong documentation! Having COVID twice with positive tests and your daughter being hospitalized are exactly the kind of circumstances that PA UC considers good "cause -" those are completely beyond your control and you have medical proof. The fact that you followed proper call-off procedures and have text messages showing you notified your supervisor is going to really help your case too. It s'been so encouraging to see all the success stories in this thread from people who thought they wouldn t'qualify but ended up getting approved. Your documentation sounds even stronger than some of the people who got approved! Definitely apply this week and don t'let an initial denial discourage you if it happens - from what everyone s'saying, the appeal process really works for legitimate cases like yours. Keep us posted on how it goes!

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I went through almost the exact same thing about a year ago - got fired from my warehouse job for attendance points (had 9, company limit was 7) but most of my absences were for legitimate reasons like car trouble, family emergencies, and illness. I was terrified to apply for UC because I thought being fired for policy violation meant automatic denial, but I ended up getting approved! The key is that PA UC looks at whether you had "good cause" for your absences, not just whether you technically broke company policy. What really helped my case was having documentation for everything - repair receipts, doctor's notes, text screenshots showing I properly notified my supervisor each time. Even though I had received warnings, the UC examiner said that didn't matter since my absences were due to circumstances beyond my control. Your situation sounds very strong with documented reasons and proper call-off procedures. Definitely apply ASAP and include all your documentation with the initial claim. If you get denied initially (which happens to lots of people), don't panic - appeal it immediately. The system can be frustrating but it does work when you have legitimate reasons like yours. You've got this!

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@Zara Ahmed your success story is so encouraging! It s'really reassuring to hear from someone who had 9 points vs a 7 limit and still got approved - that gives me so much confidence since my situation is very similar. I love how you emphasized that PA UC looks at good "cause rather" than just policy violations, and that having documentation and following proper procedures really made the difference. The fact that warnings didn t'matter when your absences were due to circumstances beyond your control is huge for me to know. I m'definitely going to apply this week and include all my documentation with the initial claim like you suggested. Thanks for the encouragement and for sharing your experience - it really helps to know that the system does work for people with legitimate reasons!

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