PA UC eligibility after termination for attendance points - can I still qualify?
So I just got fired from my warehouse job yesterday after accumulating too many attendance points. I was 2 points over their limit (got 8, limit was 6). Thing is, I had legit reasons for most of my absences - my car broke down twice, had a family emergency, and got sick once but they wouldn't accept my doctor's note because it was submitted a day late. I'm wondering if I can still qualify for PA unemployment since technically I was fired for breaking company policy? I really need something to help while I look for a new job. Has anyone been in a similar situation with the points system and successfully gotten benefits? This is my first time dealing with unemployment so I'm completely lost about what counts as misconduct vs. just not meeting their attendance expectations.
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Jade Lopez
Yes, you can likely qualify. In PA, being fired for attendance points is often NOT considered willful misconduct if you had legitimate reasons for your absences. The key is whether you violated the policy deliberately or if there were circumstances beyond your control. Make sure to explain all your reasons (car trouble, family emergency, illness) when you file. PA UC will contact your employer for their side, so be prepared to provide any documentation you have of those legitimate reasons. They'll make a determination based on both accounts.
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Arjun Patel
•Thank you! That's a huge relief. Should I upload my doctor's note with my initial claim even though my employer rejected it? And what about the car breakdowns - I have repair receipts but not sure if that's enough?
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Tony Brooks
I got fired 4 attendance points at my job 2 yrs ago. Got UC no problem!!
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Arjun Patel
•That's good to hear! Did they make you do any kind of interview or hearing about it?
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Tony Brooks
•ya they called me like 2 weeks after i applied. just asked why i missed work & i told them truth. got approved next day
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Ella rollingthunder87
You might qualify but it all depends on the details. My sister-in-law got denied after being fired for attendance even though she had reasons because her employer showed she had been warned multiple times. They considered that willful misconduct. You should definitely apply though because it really depends on the specific UC examiner who reviews your case and how your employer presents their side.
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Arjun Patel
•That's concerning... I did get warnings when I hit 4 points and then 6 points. Do you know if she appealed the decision? I'm wondering if it would be worth trying even if I get denied initially.
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Yara Campbell
To give you the most accurate information: Pennsylvania UC examines whether your actions constitute "willful misconduct" when determining eligibility after termination. For attendance issues, they look at: 1. Did you have good cause for the absences? 2. Were you aware of the employer's attendance policy? 3. Did you take reasonable steps to notify your employer? Make sure you gather documentation for all your absences - doctor's notes, car repair receipts, any text messages where you notified managers, etc. Submit everything with your initial claim. Also, be completely honest about receiving warnings - lying will definitely disqualify you. In my experience assisting people with claims, attendance point systems often result in approved claims if you had legitimate reasons and followed proper call-off procedures, even with prior warnings.
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Arjun Patel
•This is super helpful, thank you! I did follow the call-off procedure every time and have texts confirming I notified my supervisor. I'll gather all my documentation before I file.
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Isaac Wright
When I got fired from Giant Eagle last year for points they said I didn't qualify but then my friend told me I should've appealed it cause his brother got approved in the same situation but I didn't know you could do that so I missed my chance :
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Maya Diaz
•ALWAYS APPEAL!! UC denies so many people automatically hoping they won't fight back. The system is designed to discourage you. I've had 3 successful appeals over the years.
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Tami Morgan
I was in your exact situation in January - fired for attendance points from my manufacturing job. Applied for UC and got denied initially. BUT then I appealed and had a hearing where I explained all my absences (childcare issues, car problems). The referee overturned the decision and I got approved! The key thing the referee kept asking was if I followed the call-off procedure and if I had documentation. So definitely apply and be prepared to appeal if needed. Good luck!
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Arjun Patel
•This is so reassuring to hear your success story! How long did the appeal process take from when you were initially denied?
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Tami Morgan
•It took almost 6 weeks from denial to getting the appeal hearing, then about 10 days after that to get the decision. The waiting was definitely stressful, but worth it in the end. Make sure you immediately request the appeal as soon as you get a denial - you only have 15 days!
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Jade Lopez
One thing I forgot to mention - while you're waiting for a determination, you still need to file your biweekly claims. A lot of people don't realize this and miss out on payments they would've been eligible for if their appeal is successful. So even if your initial application is pending or denied, keep filing every two weeks!
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Arjun Patel
•Thank you - I definitely wouldn't have known to do that!
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Rami Samuels
When I tried calling PA UC about my denied claim for something similar, I spent DAYS trying to get through. Busy signals for hours, then would finally get in the queue only to get disconnected. Eventually I used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. Saved me so much frustration and the agent I spoke with explained exactly what documentation I needed to submit for my appeal.
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Arjun Patel
•I've heard the phone system is a nightmare. Thanks for the tip - I'll check it out if I run into issues getting through.
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Tony Brooks
•that service actually works??? i thought it was a scam when my cousin mentioned it
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Rami Samuels
•Yeah it's legit. After 3 days of constant redials I was desperate. They just help you skip the busy signal nightmare. The actual conversation is still directly with a UC rep.
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Ella rollingthunder87
Just so you know, LOTS of people get denied the first time around - it's practically routine at this point. The system is designed to discourage people from following through. If you get denied initially, don't panic and definitely appeal. I was denied twice before finally getting approved after explaining my situation to an actual person during the hearing. The trick is to be persistent and document EVERYTHING.
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Maya Diaz
•THIS!!! The system is BROKEN BY DESIGN! They count on people giving up. I know someone who works for UC and they told me they're trained to look for any reason to deny first-time claims. It's disgusting how they treat people who just need help during a tough time.
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Arjun Patel
Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice! I've started gathering all my documentation - found my doctor's note, text messages showing I followed call-off procedures, and car repair receipts. Going to file my initial claim tomorrow and prepare for a possible appeal just in case. I'll keep filing the biweekly claims regardless of the initial decision. Fingers crossed it all works out!
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