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Nia Wilson

PA UC demanding seasonal work letter from 2022 - now claiming overpayment

I'm seriously stressed about this bizarre PA UC situation. Last Thursday, a UC rep called saying I failed to do job searches for week ending 12/31/22 (over 2 YEARS ago!). I explained I'm exempt as a seasonal worker who gets temporarily laid off every December. Now they're demanding I upload some "return to work" letter from my employer by yesterday - something I've NEVER needed in my 12 years at this job! I've claimed UC benefits during winter layoffs since 2014 without ever needing this documentation. When I called UC just last month, the rep confirmed no issues with my account. Now suddenly they're saying I have an overpayment for that one week from 2022? I immediately contacted my boss twice (email Thursday and text yesterday) for this letter, but he's completely ignoring me - probably thinks it's as ridiculous as I do. The deadline was yesterday and I'm now facing an overpayment notice. They can easily verify I earned ZERO income that entire month like every December. Why are they hassling me about one random week from over 2 years ago? I absolutely refuse to repay money I legitimately qualified for. Has anyone dealt with something this absurd? Any advice on fighting this overpayment claim when my employer won't respond?

This sounds like a standard PA UC "audit" situation. They randomly review old claims sometimes, and the rules for seasonal workers did change slightly in late 2022 regarding documentation requirements. You'll need to appeal the overpayment determination within 15 days of receiving the official notice. While waiting for your employer's letter, gather any evidence showing your consistent pattern of seasonal employment - previous years' UC claims during December, return-to-work dates in January, etc. You can upload these as supporting documents with your appeal. Also, document your attempts to contact your employer for the required letter. The appeal board will consider good faith efforts to comply.

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Nia Wilson

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Wait, so there actually WAS a policy change? Nobody told me anything about needing new documentation! I've been doing this the exact same way for years and never had an issue. Do you know exactly when this change happened? I'm worried they'll reject my appeal if I don't have this specific letter they want.

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Aisha Hussain

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omg this happened 2 me 2!! they came after me for week from 2020!! said i didnt report some income but it was all reported!!! the system is so messed up, they just want 2 get money back from ppl. did u get a paper notice or just the phone call? u need 2 appeal right away!!

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Ethan Clark

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They're doing this to everyone lately! My cousin's friend had to repay $1,800 from 2021 because they said she didn't upload some form that nobody told her about until two years later. The whole system is designed to confuse people so they can collect overpayments.

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StarStrider

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To actually get this resolved, you need to take these specific steps: 1. File an appeal IMMEDIATELY (15-day deadline from when you receive the written determination) 2. Request your employment records from your employer via certified mail (keep receipt) 3. Check your SWIF account for previous years' UC claims showing identical pattern 4. Print bank statements showing no income during December 2022 5. Request a copy of your UC record through a Right to Information request Don't stress too much - these random audits happen, but with proper documentation of your seasonal work pattern, you have a strong case. What matters is showing the consistent employment pattern and that you've always qualified for the seasonal exemption.

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Nia Wilson

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This is super helpful, thank you! I've started gathering my bank statements already. But I'm worried about the appeal timeline - I haven't actually received a written determination yet, just the phone call saying I need to upload this letter. Should I wait for the official overpayment notice before appealing? And what's a SWIF account?

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Yuki Sato

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Nia Wilson

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I've been trying to call them constantly since Thursday with no luck! Just constant busy signals or getting disconnected. I'll check out that service - I desperately need to talk to someone who can actually explain what's happening. An extension would be super helpful since my boss is being completely unresponsive.

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Carmen Ruiz

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theres a huge difrence between STANDBY status and SEASONAL worker status!! many people dont know this!! if ur on STANDBY u dont need to do work searches but u DO need employer letter saying ur coming back by specific date. Seasonal workers have different rules. which status did u file under back then?? if u filed as standby without the letter thats the issue.

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Nia Wilson

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I honestly don't even remember what I selected back then. I just filed the same way I always do every December. Is there a way to check what status I used when I filed? I definitely didn't receive any notification that I needed to provide additional documentation at the time.

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This is an important point. Standby status (expecting recall within 16 weeks) does require employer verification. Seasonal workers have different requirements. You can see what you selected by logging into your PA UC account and viewing your claim history for that period. Look for "Type of Unemployment" in the claim details.

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The EXACT same thing happened to me!!! I work construction and get laid off every winter. Last year UC came after me for weeks from 2021 saying I didn't do job searches. I fought it and WON. Here's what I did: 1. Appealed immediately 2. Got a letter from my union (since my employer wouldn't help) confirming my seasonal work pattern 3. Brought pay stubs showing the pattern of December layoffs for multiple years 4. Explained that I'd been filing the same way for years with no issues The appeal referee ruled in my favor because I proved the consistent pattern and that I'd never been informed of any documentation change. DON'T PAY IT BACK until you've gone through the appeal process!!!

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Nia Wilson

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Thank you for sharing this!! This gives me hope. I don't have a union, but I can definitely bring pay stubs showing I've had this same December layoff pattern for YEARS. I absolutely won't pay anything back until I've tried every possible appeal option.

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Aisha Hussain

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their so incompetent!! one rep tells u one thing, another tells u something else. i bet if u called 5 times u'd get 5 different answers!!! its NOT fair they can go back years later and change the rules.

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Ethan Clark

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This is why I always record my calls with UC (PA is a two-party consent state, so I let them know). That way when one rep tells me something different than another, I have proof of what I was told. Saved me twice when fighting determinations.

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StarStrider

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Since your employer isn't responding, here's another approach: Draft a letter yourself stating your regular seasonal layoff pattern and when you returned to work in January 2023. Take it to a notary, sign it as an affidavit, and submit that with your appeal. Also include your W-2s from 2022 and 2023 showing the employment pattern. The appeal board often accepts alternative documentation when the preferred documentation isn't available through no fault of the claimant. Also important: PA UC has a financial hardship waiver for overpayments. If you can demonstrate that repaying would cause significant financial hardship, you can apply for this even if you lose the appeal.

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Nia Wilson

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The affidavit is a great idea! I never would have thought of that. I have all my tax forms so getting the W-2s won't be a problem. I really hope I don't need the hardship waiver, but it's good to know that exists just in case. Thank you so much for these specific suggestions!

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One more critical point: Make sure you check your PA Treasury ReliaCard or direct deposit account to confirm if you actually received benefits for that specific week. Sometimes these audit issues come up but when you check your payment history, you'll find you weren't actually paid for the week in question (perhaps because you reported returning to work). If that's the case, there can't be an overpayment. Log into your UC account and review your payment history for that specific week ending 12/31/22.

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Nia Wilson

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I definitely received payment for that week - I always file every week during December layoffs and get paid for all of them. But I'll double-check my records to be 100% sure. I still have all my bank statements showing the UC deposits.

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