Got hit with a $420 penalty but still need my ny unemployment money
Last month I got a letter saying I was penalized $420 for not reporting some income I made from a side gig back in August. I completely forgot about it - was just a one-time thing helping a friend move their business equipment. Now they're taking the penalty out of my weekly benefits. I'm only getting about $284 per week and they're taking out $105 each payment. I'm freaking out because I still need that money to pay bills. Anyone know if I'm just going to lose that money forever or will I still get all my entitled weeks eventually? Will they just extend how long I get payments for? I've been trying to call for two weeks and can't get through to anyone who can explain this to me.
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Isabella Silva
They're not extending your benefits, they're just reducing what you get until the penalty is paid off. Once the full $420 is repaid, you'll start getting your regular amount again. But yeah, you lose that money.
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Malik Robinson
•This sucks so bad. Can I appeal this somehow? It was seriously just a one-time thing and I made like $350 total.
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Isabella Silva
•Yeah you can appeal but goodluck getting anyone on the phone. I spent 3 weeks trying and never got through. The system is designed to be impossible 🙄
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Ravi Choudhury
•You actually can appeal even after they start collecting. You have like 30 days from when you got the determination letter. But its a PITA to do it.
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CosmosCaptain
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Freya Johansen
•Is this for real or just another scam trying to prey on desperate people? 🤔
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CosmosCaptain
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Omar Fawzi
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CosmosCaptain
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Chloe Wilson
•wait hold up - does this actually work or is it just the usual BS? I've been trying to get through for almost a month now...
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CosmosCaptain
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Diego Mendoza
I had this exact same problem last year. Listen, you NEED to report ALL income when certifying, even if it's a one time gig. The system is designed to catch this stuff. The penalty is because you technically committed fraud (even if it wasn't intentional).
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Malik Robinson
•I genuinely didn't know I had to report such a small amount from a one-time thing. This whole system is so confusing.
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Diego Mendoza
•Yeah it's crazy confusing. The rules say ANY income must be reported for the week you EARN it (not when you get paid). I learned this the hard way too.
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Anastasia Romanov
HEADS UP! The exact same thing happened to me. The $420 penalty is probably just the amount they think you were overpaid PLUS a 25% penalty on top of that. You'll never get that money back, but after it's all collected from your benefits, you'll go back to getting your full amount each week.
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StellarSurfer
Check if you qualify for a penalty waiver! Log into your account, go to the documents section, and look for the appeal or waiver forms. You might be able to get the penalty removed if you can show it was an honest mistake and you're facing financial hardship.
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Malik Robinson
•Thank you! I'll definitely check that out. Do you know what kind of proof they need for financial hardship?
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StellarSurfer
•They usually want bank statements, bills, proof that youre about to get evicted, stuff like that. Basically anything that shows youre in a tight spot because of the reduced benefits.
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Sean Kelly
•I tried the waiver route last summer and got denied 👎 took 3 months to even get a response. System is rigged against us
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Zara Malik
Here's what I learned going through a similar situation with NY unemployment: First, understand that penalties come in two forms: monetary (what you're experiencing) and forfeit days (where you lose entire weeks of benefits). Sounds like you just have the monetary penalty, which is actually better. Second, while they're taking money from your weekly benefits now, your BENEFIT YEAR remains the same. This means you won't get "extra weeks" to make up for the reduced payments. Your benefits will simply end on the original end date. Third, your best options are: 1. Accept the penalty and budget accordingly until it's paid off 2. Request a waiver (though these are rarely approved unless you can prove extreme hardship) 3. Request a hearing to contest the determination The biggest challenge is actually getting someone on the phone to help. After days of failed attempts, I found claimyr.com which got me a callback from an actual DOL rep within hours. This was a game-changer for resolving my issue. Finally, document EVERYTHING. Keep all letters, take screenshots of your account, and note the names of any representatives you speak with. The system is frustratingly complicated, but having documentation helps tremendously if you need to appeal. Hope this helps!
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Malik Robinson
•This is so helpful, thank you! I'll check out that callback service since I've been going crazy trying to reach someone.
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Luca Greco
•I second this advice. The documentation part saved me when I appealed. Had a hearing over the phone and won because I had screenshots of everything.
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Nia Thompson
The NY unemployment system is such a joke 🤡 They make it impossible to talk to anyone on purpose. I bet if THEY made a mistake in YOUR favor they'd fix it immediately!
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Facts 💯 They can find even the smallest errors when it means taking money back, but when they owe you? Crickets...
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Aisha Hussain
•TRUE. I had an issue where they underpaid me for 6 weeks. Took 4 months to get it fixed and only happened after I contacted my state rep.
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GalacticGladiator
Fun fact: you can contact your state representative's office and they can sometimes intervene on your behalf. I did this after 2 months of getting nowhere and suddenly my issue was resolved in 48 hours!
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Ethan Brown
did you get a letter first? or did they just start taking money out?? now im worried im gonna get hit with this too ðŸ˜
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Malik Robinson
•Got a determination letter first explaining the penalty, but it was super confusing about how they'd collect it. Just suddenly noticed my payments were lower.
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Ethan Brown
•thx for explaining. the whole NY unemployment system is designed 2 confuse people so they can slap penalties on us i swear
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Yuki Yamamoto
This is why I always overreport my earnings just to be safe. Rather get a smaller payment than deal with penalties later. The system rly punishes honest mistakes.
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Carmen Ruiz
I'm an attorney who has helped people with unemployment issues. The monetary penalty is usually 15-50% on top of whatever they believe you were overpaid. You likely have the right to a hearing, but you must request it quickly (usually within 30 days of the determination). During the hearing you can explain it was an honest mistake.
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Malik Robinson
•Do you know if there's any chance they would remove the penalty entirely? Or just reduce it?
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Carmen Ruiz
•It depends on the hearing officer, but yes, they can potentially waive the entire penalty if they believe it was a genuine mistake with no intent to defraud. Bring any evidence you have that shows it was a one-time gig.
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Andre Lefebvre
•I actually won my hearing for a similar situation. The key was proving I misunderstood the reporting requirements rather than intentionally trying to hide income.
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Zoe Dimitriou
hot tip: if ur really desperate and cant reach anyone, try calling right when they open at 8am or try the fraud department number and then ask to be transferred to regular claims. sometimes works for me
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Malik Robinson
•I'll try this tomorrow! Do you know if there's a direct number for the fraud department?
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Zoe Dimitriou
•yea its on their website under report fraud. but honestly the callback service someone mentioned above (claimyr) would prob save u a lot of headaches
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QuantumQuest
The number of people going thru this EXACT same thing right now is wild. They're cracking down hard on everyone post-pandemic. My theory is they're trying to recoup all the money they paid out during covid.
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Jamal Anderson
•100% this. NY unemployment is broke af after the pandemic and now they're squeezing every penny back that they can. It's not just you OP.
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Mei Zhang
im dealing with almost the identical situation, except my penalty is $580 for not reporting some gig work i did. called for weeks with no luck. finally broke down and used claimyr.com after seeing it recommended here. got a callback within 3 hrs and explained my situation. the rep actually helped me file for a waiver since it was my first offense! worth a shot for u too
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Malik Robinson
•That gives me hope! Did you have to provide any documentation for the waiver?
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Mei Zhang
•they asked for bank statements showing low balance and any past due bills to prove hardship. took about 3 weeks to get approved but they paused taking money from my benefits while it was processing!
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