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Miguel Silva

Does 401k withdrawal affect NYS Department of Labor unemployment benefits eligibility?

I've been unemployed for about 6 weeks and receiving regular UI benefits from NYS Department of Labor. My car just broke down and I need about $4,000 for repairs to keep looking for work. I'm thinking about doing a hardship withdrawal from my 401k but I'm worried this might mess up my unemployment claim. Does anyone know if NYS Department of Labor counts 401k withdrawals as income that would reduce my weekly benefit amount? I can't find clear info on the my.ny.gov website about this.

Zainab Ismail

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401k withdrawals are NOT counted as wages by NYS Department of Labor for unemployment purposes. They're considered retirement distributions, not earned income. You should be fine to withdraw what you need without it affecting your weekly benefit amount. Just make sure you're still doing your job search activities and filing your weekly claims on time.

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Miguel Silva

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Thank you! That's such a relief. I was panicking about losing my benefits right when I need them most.

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wait are you sure about that? i thought ANY money you get while on unemployment has to be reported to nysdol

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Zainab Ismail

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No, only wages and certain other types of compensation count. 401k withdrawals, inheritance, gifts, etc. are not reportable income for UI purposes. The weekly claim certification specifically asks about work and wages earned, not retirement account distributions.

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Yara Nassar

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Just be aware that you'll still owe taxes and possibly penalties on that 401k withdrawal. NYS Department of Labor won't care about it for your unemployment claim, but the IRS definitely will. Make sure to set aside money for taxes when you file next year.

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Miguel Silva

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Good point about the taxes. I'm planning to only withdraw exactly what I need and deal with the tax consequences later.

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I had the same worry last year when I needed to tap my retirement account. NYS Department of Labor never asked about it and my benefits continued normally. The weekly certification questions are pretty specific about what income you need to report - it's mainly about work you do while collecting benefits.

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Miguel Silva

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Thanks for the suggestion! I might check that out if I have any other questions come up.

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Zara Ahmed

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I went through something similar when I was on unemployment last year. Had to withdraw from my 401k for an emergency medical bill. NYS Department of Labor definitely does NOT count retirement account withdrawals as wages or income that affects your benefits. The key thing to remember is that unemployment benefits are specifically tied to wages from employment - not other sources of money like retirement distributions, insurance payouts, or even lottery winnings. Just keep doing your weekly certifications honestly and you'll be fine. Hope you get your car situation sorted out soon!

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Liam Cortez

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through it! I was getting conflicting advice from different sources but it sounds like the consensus here is pretty clear. Thanks for sharing your experience - it definitely puts my mind at ease about moving forward with the withdrawal.

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I can confirm this from my own experience - withdrew about $3,000 from my 401k last year while on unemployment benefits and it had zero impact on my weekly payments from NYS Department of Labor. The weekly certification form is very clear about what they want to know about - it's focused on work performed and wages earned during that week, not retirement account distributions. Just make sure you're still meeting all the other requirements (job searches, availability for work, etc.) and you should be good to go. The tax implications are definitely something to plan for though!

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Thanks for the confirmation! It's so reassuring to hear from multiple people who have actually been through this situation. I was really stressed about potentially losing my benefits right when I need them most. Good reminder about keeping up with the job search requirements too - I've been diligent about that part but the car situation was making me worry I might not be able to get to interviews. Hopefully I can get this resolved quickly and get back to focusing on finding work.

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I work at a financial services company and deal with retirement account questions regularly. Just want to echo what everyone else is saying - 401k withdrawals are definitely not considered wages or reportable income for NYS unemployment purposes. The Department of Labor is very specific that they only care about income from work/employment during your benefit period. Retirement distributions, even hardship withdrawals, fall into a completely different category. The weekly certification questions make this pretty clear if you read them carefully. That said, do keep detailed records of the withdrawal for your own tax planning - you'll need to report it on your federal and state tax returns next year, and there may be early withdrawal penalties depending on your age and plan rules. But for your immediate unemployment benefits, you're in the clear. Good luck with the car repairs!

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Gavin King

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This is really comprehensive information - thank you for breaking it down from a professional perspective! It's especially helpful to understand the distinction between wages/employment income versus retirement distributions. I feel much more confident now about moving forward with the withdrawal. I'll definitely keep good records for tax purposes and make sure to set aside some money for next year's filing. Appreciate everyone who took the time to share their experiences and knowledge on this thread!

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Sean O'Brien

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Just wanted to add another data point - I'm currently on unemployment and had to do an emergency 401k withdrawal about 3 weeks ago for home repairs after a pipe burst. I was really nervous about it affecting my benefits, but after reading through all the NYS Department of Labor documentation and talking to a rep, I can confirm that retirement account withdrawals are completely separate from wages/employment income. My weekly benefit amount hasn't changed at all, and the weekly certification questions don't even ask about this type of money. The key thing to remember is that unemployment insurance is specifically designed to replace lost wages from employment - not to monitor every dollar that comes into your bank account from non-work sources. As others mentioned, just make sure you're keeping up with your job search requirements and weekly certifications. And definitely plan ahead for the tax implications - I'm already setting aside about 25% of what I withdrew to cover federal taxes and penalties. Hope this helps give you more confidence in your decision!

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CosmicCadet

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing such a recent and detailed experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this exact situation and can confirm that NYS Department of Labor truly doesn't consider 401k withdrawals as reportable income. I was getting anxious about potentially jeopardizing my benefits right when I need them most for basic transportation to job interviews. Your point about unemployment being designed to replace lost wages specifically really puts it in perspective. I'm definitely going to move forward with the withdrawal now, and I appreciate the reminder about setting aside money for taxes - 25% sounds like a smart buffer to plan for. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!

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Jake Sinclair

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I just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact situation about 8 months ago. I was on NYS unemployment and had to withdraw from my 401k for an unexpected medical expense. I was terrified it would affect my benefits, but it absolutely did not. The weekly certification is very clear - they only ask about wages and work performed during that week. Retirement account withdrawals are not wages, they're distributions from money you've already earned and contributed in the past. I withdrew about $5,000 and my unemployment benefits continued without any issues. The only thing that matters to NYS Department of Labor is that you keep certifying weekly, continue your job search activities, and remain available for work. Just remember to keep good records for tax time - you'll get a 1099-R form and will need to report it on your tax return, plus potentially pay early withdrawal penalties. But for your unemployment claim purposes, you're totally fine. Get your car fixed so you can keep job hunting!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to unemployment benefits, I was really confused about what counts as reportable income. It's reassuring to see so many people share their actual experiences with 401k withdrawals while on NYS unemployment. The distinction between wages from work versus retirement distributions makes a lot of sense now. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their stories - it really helps newcomers like me understand how the system actually works in practice!

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I'm in a similar boat and have been wondering about this too! Reading through everyone's experiences here is really reassuring. I've been hesitant to touch my 401k while on unemployment because I wasn't sure how NYS Department of Labor would view it. It sounds like the consensus is pretty clear though - retirement distributions are treated completely separately from wages for unemployment purposes. I'm curious though - for those who have done this, do you report the withdrawal anywhere in the weekly certification process, or do you just not mention it at all since it's not considered wages? I want to make sure I'm being completely compliant with all the requirements. Thanks to everyone sharing their real experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to navigate the official documentation alone!

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Kaiya Rivera

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You don't need to report 401k withdrawals anywhere in the weekly certification process since they're not considered wages or employment income. The weekly questions are very specific - they ask about work you performed and wages you earned that week, not about retirement distributions or other non-work income sources. I've been through this myself and never mentioned my withdrawal because it simply doesn't fall into any of the categories they're asking about. Just answer the certification questions honestly based on what they're actually asking - did you work, did you earn wages, are you available for work, etc. The 401k withdrawal is completely separate from all of that. Hope this helps clarify things for you!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been on NYS unemployment for about 2 months and was considering a 401k withdrawal for some urgent home repairs, but I was really worried it might mess up my benefits. Reading everyone's real experiences here makes it so much clearer that retirement distributions are treated completely separately from wages by the Department of Labor. It's such a relief to know that the weekly certification questions are specifically focused on work and wages, not every source of money that might come your way. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories - it's way more reassuring than trying to decipher the official guidelines on my own. I think I'm going to move forward with the withdrawal now that I understand it won't impact my unemployment claim. The tax planning advice is really valuable too - I'll definitely set aside money for next year's filing!

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Camila Jordan

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I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! When I first started receiving unemployment benefits, I was really overwhelmed by all the rules and worried about accidentally doing something that would jeopardize my claim. It's amazing how much clearer things become when you hear from people who have actually been through these situations. The distinction between wages and retirement distributions really is key - once you understand that unemployment is specifically about replacing lost employment income, it makes sense that other types of money like 401k withdrawals wouldn't factor into the equation. Good luck with your home repairs, and I hope you're able to get back to work soon!

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NebulaNova

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I'm new to unemployment benefits and was really confused about what income needs to be reported to NYS Department of Labor. This thread has been incredibly educational! It's so helpful to see multiple people share their actual experiences with 401k withdrawals while receiving unemployment. The distinction everyone is making between wages from employment versus retirement distributions makes perfect sense - unemployment insurance is meant to replace lost wages, not monitor every dollar that enters your bank account. I've bookmarked this thread because the real-world experiences shared here are way more valuable than trying to parse through the official documentation alone. Thanks to everyone for being so generous with sharing your knowledge!

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Esteban Tate

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I'm also pretty new to navigating unemployment benefits and had so many questions about what counts as reportable income! This whole thread has been like a masterclass in understanding how NYS Department of Labor actually handles different types of money. It's really eye-opening to see how many people have been in similar situations with 401k withdrawals and had positive experiences. The community knowledge here is invaluable - I feel like I learned more from reading these real experiences than from hours of trying to understand the official guidelines. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their stories and help newcomers like us!

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Marcus Marsh

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As someone who just started receiving unemployment benefits last month, this discussion has been incredibly reassuring! I was actually in a similar panic mode about potentially needing to access my 401k for an emergency expense. Reading through everyone's real experiences here makes it so much clearer that NYS Department of Labor really does focus specifically on wages and employment income, not retirement distributions. What strikes me most is how consistent everyone's experiences have been - multiple people withdrawing different amounts at different times, all with the same result: no impact on their unemployment benefits. The weekly certification questions really are quite specific about work and wages, which makes sense when you think about unemployment as wage replacement rather than general financial monitoring. Thanks to Miguel for asking this question and to everyone who shared their stories - this kind of peer knowledge is so much more helpful than trying to navigate the official documentation alone!

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Omar Hassan

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I completely agree with you, Marcus! As someone who's also relatively new to unemployment benefits, I was really anxious about all the rules and potential pitfalls. This thread has been such a game-changer for understanding what actually matters to NYS Department of Labor versus what doesn't. The consistency across everyone's experiences is really striking - it seems like the system is much more straightforward than I initially thought. I love how you put it about unemployment being "wage replacement rather than general financial monitoring" - that really crystallizes the whole concept for me. It's such a relief to have this community knowledge because honestly, trying to figure this stuff out from the official websites can be pretty overwhelming when you're already stressed about being unemployed!

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