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Does 401k affect unemployment benefits - NYS Department of Labor rules?

I'm planning to file for unemployment next week after my company laid me off. I have about $85,000 in my 401k from years of contributing. Before I submit my claim, I need to know - will having this 401k balance affect my unemployment benefits with NYS Department of Labor? I'm not planning to touch it at all, just want to make sure it won't reduce my weekly benefit amount or cause any issues with my claim. Has anyone dealt with this before?

Your 401k balance won't affect your unemployment benefits at all. NYS Department of Labor only looks at your wages from work when calculating your weekly benefit amount. Retirement accounts like 401k, IRA, etc. are not considered income for unemployment purposes. You're good to file your claim without worrying about this.

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That's a huge relief! I was worried I'd have to report it somehow. Thanks for clarifying the NYS Department of Labor rules on this.

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wait what if you take money OUT of your 401k though? like if i need to withdraw some to pay bills while waiting for unemployment to kick in?

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If you actually withdraw money from your 401k, that could be different. Any distributions might need to be reported as income. But just having the account sitting there doesn't matter for your UI claim.

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I had to deal with this exact situation last year. I called the NYS Department of Labor hotline but couldn't get through for weeks. Finally used claimyr.com to get connected to an actual agent - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works. The agent confirmed that 401k withdrawals do count as income and need to be reported on your weekly claims.

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omg thank god someone asked this!! i have like 40k in mine and was freaking out thinking it would mess up my benefits

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The distinction is important here - ASSETS vs INCOME. Your 401k is an asset, not income. NYS Department of Labor unemployment is based on your work history and wages, not your savings or investments. However, if you start taking distributions, those become income and could affect your weekly claim certification.

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This makes sense but why is the unemployment system so confusing about what counts as income and what doesn't? Like I'm scared to even check my bank account balance now in case that somehow affects things...

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been through this whole mess before... NYS Department of Labor doesn't care about your retirement savings until you actually touch the money. But good luck getting anyone on the phone to confirm this when you need it. Their customer service is absolutely terrible.

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Just wanted to add my experience here - I filed for unemployment last month and had the same concern about my 401k. The online application doesn't even ask about retirement accounts, only about work income and any part-time earnings. I've been certified for 4 weeks now with no issues. The NYS Department of Labor really does keep it simple - they just want to know about wages from employment, not your savings or investments.

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