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Honestly this whole conversation reminds me of when I was laid off last year and couldn't get through to anyone at NYS Department of Labor for weeks. The irony of discussing 'healthy unemployment' when the system for helping unemployed people is so broken... but I guess that's a different issue entirely.
Sorry you had trouble reaching them. If you ever need to get through to NYS Department of Labor agents again, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that handles the calling for you. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works. Way easier than sitting on hold for hours.
The way I think about it is like this - if unemployment is at zero, it means the economy has no shock absorbers. When recessions hit (and they always do), you need some flexibility in the labor market to adjust without everything collapsing. Plus zero unemployment usually means wages have gotten so high that companies start automating jobs or moving operations elsewhere.
Just make sure your previous claim is totally finished before filing a new one. I had some confusion when I tried to file too quickly and it created complications with my benefit year dates. NYS Department of Labor had to sort it out but it delayed my payments for a few weeks.
If you're having trouble getting through to NYS Department of Labor to clarify your situation, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me reach an actual agent when I couldn't get through on my own. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works. Really helped when I needed to verify my eligibility for a second claim.
I was in a similar situation last year - got laid off from part time work. The thing that surprised me is they look at ALL your wages during the base period, not just your most recent job. So even though my recent job was only part time, my earlier full time work helped me qualify for a higher benefit amount. Definitely file even if you're not 100% sure you qualify - the worst they can say is no.
Lucas Kowalski
I've been trying to get through to NYS Department of Labor for weeks about my own claim issues and it's impossible. If you need to actually talk to someone about this wages in lieu situation, I recently found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get through to unemployment agents. They have a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI. Saved me hours of calling and getting disconnected.
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Olivia Martinez
•How does that work exactly? Do they just keep calling for you or what?
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Lucas Kowalski
•They basically handle the calling process and get you connected to an actual person at NYS Department of Labor. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Charlie Yang
The whole wages in lieu thing is so confusing! I got severance when I was laid off and wasn't sure if that was the same thing. Turns out severance is different - you can collect unemployment right away with severance but not with wages in lieu of notice. The NYS Department of Labor website should really explain this stuff better.
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