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Your boss probably pays more than they realize because unemployment isn't the only payroll tax. There's also workers comp, disability insurance, and other stuff. The whole system is designed to make employers think twice before laying people off unnecessarily.
This is really helpful context! I had no idea the rates could vary so much based on claims history. It makes sense why some employers get nervous about layoffs - not just the immediate impact but the long-term cost implications. Do you know if there's a way for employees to find out what rate bracket their employer falls into, or is that considered private business information? I'm curious if my company's rate is on the higher end given how my boss reacts to these situations.
I don't think employer tax rates are public information - that would be confidential business data that NYS Department of Labor keeps private. Your best bet might be to ask your HR department directly, though they may not want to share those details. Some companies are more transparent about their operating costs than others. If your boss is really vocal about unemployment costs, they're probably paying on the higher end of that 0.6% to 9.9% range, which suggests your company has had multiple claims in recent years.
Just wanted to add that you'll still need to do the job search requirements even while on SSDI. NYS Department of Labor requires three work search contacts per week unless you're on standby status. Make sure you keep your job search log updated when you file your weekly claims.
I just went through this exact situation last year! I'm on SSDI and was able to collect unemployment when I lost my part-time job. The NYS Department of Labor did ask me to explain how I could be available for work while on disability during my phone interview, but I explained that my disability allows me to work part-time with accommodations. They approved my claim without any issues. Just be honest about your work limitations when you file - they understand that SSDI recipients can often still work in some capacity. Good luck!
I'm currently going through a very similar situation! I've been on SSDI for a back injury but my doctor cleared me for desk work and light duties. When I filed my unemployment claim with NYS Department of Labor after getting laid off, I made sure to include a letter from my doctor explaining my work capacity limitations and that I'm actively seeking employment within those restrictions. The key thing I learned is to be completely upfront about your social security benefits during the initial application and provide any medical documentation that shows you can still work. My case worker told me that partial disability cases are evaluated individually, and they mainly want to verify that you're genuinely able and available for suitable work despite your limitations. It's been about 4 weeks in adjudication for me, but I've heard back from them requesting additional documentation, which I take as a positive sign that they're seriously considering my case rather than just denying it outright.
This is really helpful to hear from someone going through the exact same thing! I'm glad you mentioned being upfront about the SSDI benefits from the start - I was honest on my application but wasn't sure if I should have provided more documentation initially. It sounds like your approach of including the doctor's letter with work capacity details was smart. I'm at 2 weeks in adjudication and haven't heard anything yet, but your experience gives me hope that 4 weeks might be more realistic for these types of cases. Did they ask for specific forms from your doctor or just a general letter explaining your ability to work within limitations?
Filing for unemployment was one of the smartest things I did when I got laid off. Even though I waited about 2 weeks myself, I still got benefits for months while job searching. The application process isn't too bad, just make sure you have your employer information and social security number ready.
Sean, I just want to echo what everyone else is saying - file TODAY! I work in HR and see this mistake all the time. People think they have to wait or that there's some complicated process, but you literally just need to go to ny.gov and start the application. The three weeks you've already lost are gone, but don't lose any more time. Also, make sure you have your last employer's information handy (company name, address, dates of employment, reason for separation) and your Social Security number. The system will walk you through everything step by step. You've got this!
This is really helpful advice from someone who works in HR! I'm definitely going to file today. Quick question though - when they ask for "reason for separation," should I put "laid off" or is there more specific language they're looking for? I want to make sure I don't mess anything up on the application.
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For everyone reading this thread with similar issues: If you're currently receiving NY unemployment benefits and want to avoid this situation next tax season, call NYSDOL and request both the federal Form W-4V to increase your federal withholding above 10% AND the NY State Form IT-2104-E for state tax withholding. Don't assume the default withholding will be enough, especially if you have other income sources during the same tax year.
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Daryl Bright
•Thank you for this clear explanation! I'm going to share this with my daughter too. At least we'll know for the future, though it doesn't help our current situation much.
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Dylan Mitchell
I'm so sorry you're going through this! The same thing happened to me when I was on unemployment a few years ago. It's incredibly frustrating because they make it seem like having taxes withheld means you're all set, but that 10% federal withholding is nowhere near enough for most people. I ended up owing about $800 that I wasn't expecting at all. One thing that might help - if you can't pay everything right away, both the IRS and NY State offer payment plans that aren't too bad. The IRS lets you set up an installment agreement online, and NY has similar options. At least that way you're not hit with huge penalties while you figure out how to pay it off. It's not ideal, but it's better than ignoring it and letting the penalties pile up. Also, I learned my lesson and now always set aside extra money if I ever have to go on unemployment again. The whole system really needs to be clearer about this stuff!
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