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just wanted to say good luck! same thing happened to my friend and she won her appeal. the truth usually comes out in these hearings
From my experience working in HR before switching careers, I'd estimate employees win unemployment appeals around 40-50% of the time when they have solid documentation like you do. The fact that you have a company-wide email about budget cuts is huge - that directly contradicts their misconduct claim. NYS Department of Labor judges are pretty good at spotting when employers are trying to avoid paying unemployment costs. Make sure to organize all your evidence chronologically and practice explaining your timeline clearly. You've got a strong case!
That's really encouraging to hear from someone with HR experience! I feel much better knowing that 40-50% success rate with good documentation. You're right about organizing everything chronologically - I've been putting together a timeline of events leading up to the layoff. Do you think I should also include any performance reviews or emails showing I was meeting expectations before the budget cuts happened?
Absolutely! Performance reviews and emails showing you met expectations are crucial evidence. They help establish that your termination wasn't performance-related, which strengthens your case against the misconduct claim. I'd also suggest including any documentation of positive feedback, completed projects, or goals you achieved right up until the layoffs. The more you can show you were a good employee in good standing, the harder it becomes for your employer to justify the misconduct allegation. Timeline organization really helps the judge follow your story clearly.
The fact that the NY unemployment system is still this broken is absolutely insane. It's been like this for YEARS. Nobody cares because politicians don't have to deal with it. I'd recommend documenting everything and also filing a complaint with the state ombudsman's office.
I'm going through the exact same situation right now - filed in early June, got my determination letter saying I qualify for $412/week, but it's been 8 weeks of "pending" status with zero payments. The frustration is real! I've been calling nonstop but can never get through. Reading through everyone's experiences here gives me some hope that it will eventually get resolved, even though the waiting is killing me financially. Going to try some of the suggestions mentioned here like contacting my assembly person and maybe that calling service people have mentioned. Thanks for posting this - at least I know I'm not alone in this nightmare!
Ugh, I feel your pain! Same boat here - filed in late May and it's been nothing but "pending" hell for weeks now. The worst part is not knowing WHY it's stuck or when it might get fixed. I've been trying the early morning calling strategy but still can't break through. Let me know if the assembly person route works for you - might try that myself if I keep getting nowhere!
hi everyone quick question thats kind of related but a bit different... if i only certified for unemployment for 1 day of work missed instead of the whole week, can i go back and fix that? sorry to hijack the thread but figured someone here might know
Update: I finally got through to NYSDOL after using Claimyr (thanks for the recommendation!). The agent reviewed my case and said they would allow me to certify for the missed weeks because I had documentation showing I was waiting for an eligibility determination and missed the notification. They're backdating 9 weeks! I have to wait 2-3 weeks for processing but at least it's approved. For anyone else in this situation - definitely call, have documentation ready, and be polite but persistent!
Great outcome! This is exactly why it's always worth pursuing these issues with NYSDOL rather than assuming nothing can be done. Documentation is absolutely key in these situations.
Congratulations! This gives me hope for my own situation. Can you share what kind of documentation you had that helped convince them? I'm in a similar boat and want to make sure I have everything ready when I call.
Just went through this exact situation a few months ago! My former employer claimed I was terminated for "insubordination" when really I was just asking questions about unsafe working conditions. The hearing was less intimidating than I expected - it was done over the phone and lasted about 30 minutes. The judge asked me to explain my side first, then my employer presented their case. I had screenshots of our text conversations and my original job description which helped prove I wasn't being insubordinate. Won the case and got all my back benefits. The key is having documentation and staying calm during questioning. Good luck with your hearing!
That's really encouraging to hear! I'm glad you were able to document everything with texts and job descriptions. I'm realizing I should probably gather up any emails or messages I have from my manager about my performance. Did you have a lawyer or represent yourself? I'm trying to figure out if I need legal help or if I can handle this on my own like you did.
I went through something similar last year with a retail chain that contested my claim. What I learned is that some companies have automated systems that flag ANY termination for a contest, regardless of the actual circumstances. They're banking on people not showing up to defend themselves. For your hearing, focus on the fact that your termination letter specifically says "poor performance" - that's actually great documentation in your favor since poor performance typically doesn't constitute misconduct under NY law. The burden is on them to prove you committed willful misconduct, not just that you weren't meeting expectations. Document everything you can remember about your final weeks there and any conversations with management. You've got this!
Angelica Smith
You should be able to request a detailed breakdown of the overpayment calculation. Sometimes these happen because of delays in processing employer wage reports, or if there was confusion about your job search activities during certain weeks. The key is to respond promptly and either set up repayment or file an appeal if you believe the determination is incorrect. They can't garnish wages or offset tax refunds until they go through proper legal procedures, which gives you time to work things out.
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Natasha Volkov
I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago and understand how overwhelming it feels. Here's what worked for me: First, call the overpayment unit directly (not the general unemployment line) - the number should be on your notice. If you can't get through, try calling right when they open at 8am. Second, ask for a "waiver of recovery" form if the overpayment wasn't due to fraud on your part - sometimes they'll waive collection if it was their error or due to circumstances beyond your control. Third, if you do owe the money, they're usually very reasonable about payment plans. I set up a $100/month plan and they didn't charge interest. Don't let this stress consume you - there are definitely solutions available.
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Declan Ramirez
•This is really helpful advice! I didn't know there was a separate overpayment unit number - I'll definitely try calling them at 8am. The waiver of recovery option sounds promising too since I really don't think I did anything wrong on my end. Did you have to provide any specific documentation when you requested the waiver, or was it just a matter of filling out their form?
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