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I'm reading through all these helpful responses and wanted to share what I just learned from calling that direct 599 line this morning! I called 518-457-9000, ext. 4500 right at 8am and got through to someone immediately - that tip about the direct line was a game changer. The agent confirmed that project management certifications are definitely approved for 599 extensions, especially when you can show how it builds on your existing background. She also mentioned something I hadn't seen discussed here yet - if you're doing an online program, make sure it has some kind of synchronous (real-time) component like live virtual classes or required video conferences. Programs that are completely self-paced asynchronous learning sometimes get rejected. For anyone still preparing their applications, she told me to emphasize the "occupational demand" in my area. I looked up Bureau of Labor Statistics data for project managers in New York and included that in my justification letter. Apparently showing you've researched the job market really strengthens your case. One more thing - she said they're processing 599 applications faster than usual right now (about 2 weeks instead of 3-4), so those of you with tight timelines might be in better shape than expected. I'm feeling so much more confident about this whole process now. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed advice - this thread seriously saved me from making several mistakes!
@Jessica Nolan This is incredibly helpful information, thank you for sharing what you learned from your call! The tip about needing synchronous components for online programs is something I hadn t'seen mentioned anywhere else - that could have been a costly mistake if I d'enrolled in a purely self-paced program. I love that you included Bureau of Labor Statistics data in your justification letter - that s'such a smart way to show you ve'done your homework on occupational demand. I m'definitely going to research similar data for my field before submitting my application. The faster processing time 2 (weeks vs 3-4 is) really encouraging news for those of us cutting it close on timing. It sounds like they might have streamlined their review process or hired additional staff to handle applications more quickly. Your experience with getting through immediately at 8am using the direct line gives me a lot of confidence for when I call. It s'amazing how much smoother this process seems when you have the right phone number and timing strategy. Thanks for taking the time to report back with what you learned - it s'exactly this kind of real-world intel that makes this thread so valuable for everyone going through this stressful situation!
@Jessica Nolan This is such valuable intel, thank you for reporting back! The synchronous component requirement is crucial information that could save people from choosing the wrong program. I was actually looking at a completely self-paced online certification and would have never known that might disqualify it. Your approach of including Bureau of Labor Statistics data is brilliant - I m'definitely going to research employment projections and salary data for my field before writing my justification letter. It shows you re'making an informed decision rather than just picking a random program. The 2-week processing time is really encouraging! I was stressing about my tight timeline but that gives me hope that things might move faster than expected. And confirming that the direct line works so well at 8am is perfect - I ll'be calling tomorrow morning with much more confidence now. Really appreciate you taking the time to share these specific details from your conversation. This is exactly the kind of insider information that makes all the difference in navigating this process successfully!
I'm currently in week 24 of my unemployment benefits and this thread has been absolutely invaluable for planning my next steps! After reading everyone's experiences, I'm confident that the 599 training program is my best option. I wanted to add a few resources I discovered while researching programs that might help others: 1. The NYSDOL website has a "Training Provider Directory" (though it's not easy to find) that lists pre-approved institutions. Search for "ETPL" (Eligible Training Provider List) on their site. 2. Many local libraries offer free career counseling services that can help you research training programs and even assist with application paperwork. I found this out from my local branch librarian. 3. If you're considering healthcare-related training (like medical coding or pharmacy tech), those programs tend to have very high approval rates for 599 extensions since healthcare is always in demand. I'm planning to call that direct 599 line (518-457-9000, ext. 4500) next week to discuss a healthcare administration certificate program. Based on @Jessica Nolan's recent experience, I'm optimistic about the faster processing times and will make sure my program has those synchronous learning components she mentioned. This community has provided better guidance than any official government resource I've found. Thank you all for being so generous with your real-world knowledge and experiences!
@Mary Bates This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the ETPL directory - I ve'been randomly searching training programs without knowing which ones were pre-approved. That could have saved me so much time and prevented me from accidentally choosing a non-qualifying program. The library career counseling tip is amazing too. I m'definitely going to check with my local branch this week. Having professional help with the paperwork for free sounds like a huge advantage, especially since this process seems so detail-oriented. Your healthcare administration program sounds like a really solid choice. With everything I ve'read in this thread about approval rates and job market demand, healthcare-related training seems like one of the safest bets for getting approved quickly. I m'also at week 24 so we re'in a similar timeline! It s'encouraging to see someone else being proactive about starting this process early rather than waiting until the last minute. Based on all the advice here, it sounds like we re'both in good shape timing-wise. Thanks for adding these practical resources - between your tips and everything else shared in this thread, I feel like I have a complete roadmap for navigating the 599 program successfully!
@Mary Bates These resources are incredible - thank you for sharing! I had no clue about the ETPL directory and have been wasting time researching random programs. The library career counseling tip is genius too - I never would have thought to check there for free help with applications. I m'also in week 24 and looking at healthcare programs after reading about their high approval rates. Your healthcare administration choice sounds really smart - combines business skills with job security. Quick question - when you searched for the ETPL on the NYSDOL site, did you find it easily or did you have to dig around? I want to make sure I m'looking in the right place when I search for it. Thanks for being so generous with these practical tips. This thread has become the ultimate guide for navigating the 599 program!
I'm in a very similar situation - my benefits are ending in about 3 weeks and I'm terrified. Reading through these comments is both helpful and scary. It sounds like the key is to start applying for other assistance NOW rather than waiting. I had no idea there was no automatic extension - I was definitely counting on that. Has anyone had success with the workforce development programs that @Dmitry mentioned? I'm willing to do training if it means getting some kind of income support while I'm in the program. Also going to look into that Claimyr service since calling NYS Department of Labor has been impossible for me too.
@Miles, I just went through the workforce development program application process last month! The good news is that some programs do offer income support - I found one through WIOA (Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act) that provides a training allowance while you're learning new skills. You have to go through an assessment at your local Career Center to see what you qualify for, but it's definitely worth it. The application process took about 2 weeks for me, so start now! Also, I second starting the SNAP application immediately - mine took almost a month to get approved and I wish I'd started sooner. The uncertainty is terrifying but there are more options than I initially thought, you just have to dig for them.
I'm going through this exact same situation right now - my benefits end in 10 days and I've been having panic attacks about it. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, it's really helping me understand what I need to do. I had no idea there were no automatic extensions anymore. I'm going to start my SNAP application tomorrow and call 2-1-1 to see what other assistance programs are available in my area. The idea about going to the Career Center in person sounds really smart - I've been banging my head against their website for weeks with no luck. Does anyone know if the WIOA training programs have income requirements to qualify? I'm worried I might make too much from my remaining UI benefits to be eligible. This whole system feels designed to make you fail, but at least this community is helping me figure out my next steps before I hit zero.
@Ravi, I totally understand the panic attacks - I went through the same thing when my benefits were about to end. For WIOA programs, the income requirements vary by area but they generally look at your household income over the past 6 months, not just your current UI benefits. Since you've been unemployed, you'll likely qualify even if your UI payments seem "high" - they understand that's temporary income. When you go to the Career Center, they'll do a full eligibility assessment and can tell you exactly what you qualify for. Also, don't forget to ask about emergency assistance programs while you're there - some counties have one-time rental/utility help that can bridge the gap. You've got 10 days which is actually better than waiting until the last minute like I did. The system is definitely designed poorly, but you're taking all the right steps!
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - got let go after just 8 weeks at a new position. Reading through these responses has been super helpful! One thing I wanted to add is that when you file online, make sure you have all your employment information ready including dates, wages, and employer contact info for both your recent job and your previous 14-month position. The system will ask for detailed work history going back 18 months. Also, don't be discouraged if your employer contests your claim - that's pretty common and doesn't automatically mean you'll be denied. The Department of Labor will review everything and make their own determination based on the facts. Definitely apply ASAP since there's that waiting week before benefits can start!
This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I'm actually in a very similar boat - just got let go after about 11 weeks at my job. The tip about having all the employment info ready beforehand is super helpful since I know those online forms can be tedious. Quick question though - when you mention that employers commonly contest claims, do you know roughly how long that process takes to resolve? I'm trying to figure out my timeline for when I might actually see benefits if I get approved.
@Eva St. Cyr From what I ve experienced'and heard from others, if your employer contests the claim, it usually adds about 2-4 weeks to the process. They ll schedule'a phone hearing where both you and your employer can present your side of the story to an administrative law judge. The whole thing is pretty straightforward - they ll ask'you about what happened and why you were terminated. Just stick to the facts and be honest. Even if it gets contested, don t let'that discourage you from filing. Many people still get approved even after their employer fights it, especially in cases like yours where it s just'performance-related rather than misconduct. The key is getting that initial claim filed as soon as possible since the clock doesn t start'ticking until you actually apply.
I work in HR and can confirm what others have said - the 90 days absolutely doesn't disqualify you from unemployment in NY. We've had employees who were terminated during their probationary period (even as early as 30 days) successfully collect unemployment benefits. The Department of Labor will look at your entire work history during the base period, so your 14 months at the previous job should definitely help establish eligibility. When you file, just answer the questions honestly about the termination - "performance issues" as stated by your employer - and don't elaborate beyond what was officially communicated to you. I'd recommend filing your claim this week since there's typically a one-week waiting period before benefits begin, assuming you're approved.
This is really valuable insight from someone in HR! It's so reassuring to hear that even 30-day terminations can result in successful unemployment claims. I was definitely overthinking this whole situation and worried that my short tenure would automatically disqualify me. Your advice about just answering honestly with exactly what the employer said - "performance issues" - without elaborating makes a lot of sense. I'm going to file my claim tomorrow morning and stop second-guessing myself. Thanks for taking the time to share your professional perspective!
I'm also a freelance graphic designer who just started collecting unemployment last month, and this entire discussion has been absolutely invaluable! I've been so worried about accidentally violating the rules that I've been turning down potential clients, but now I feel much more confident about moving forward. The tracking spreadsheet idea is genius - I'm going to set one up today with all the columns everyone mentioned. One thing I'm still a bit confused about though: when calculating the 25% threshold, is that based on your gross weekly benefit amount before taxes, or your net amount after taxes are taken out? For example, if my weekly benefit statement shows $350 gross but I only receive $320 after taxes, would I calculate 25% of $350 or $320? Also, has anyone had experience with how seasonal variations in freelance work affect things? I'm thinking about doing some holiday design projects in December, but I'm worried about earning too much in a short period and triggering a review, even if my earnings are low the rest of the quarter.
@CosmicCruiser Great questions! The 25% threshold is calculated based on your gross weekly benefit amount (before taxes), so in your example it would be 25% of $350 = $87.50. This means you could earn up to $87.50 from freelance work without any reduction in benefits. Regarding seasonal work, that's actually a smart concern to have! Holiday projects could definitely create a spike in your quarterly earnings even if you're compliant week-to-week. What I've seen other freelancers do is pace their higher-paying projects throughout the quarter rather than clustering them all in December. You might consider taking on some of those holiday projects but spreading the work (and payment) across November, December, and January if possible. Another strategy is to be more selective about which holiday projects you accept - maybe take fewer but higher-quality clients rather than trying to maximize volume. The key is thinking strategically about your quarterly total while staying under the weekly limits. Definitely keep detailed records of everything, especially during busy seasonal periods when it's easy to lose track of hours and earnings!
@CosmicCruiser I'm in a similar situation as a freelance web designer who just started unemployment! Regarding your seasonal work question, I'd suggest creating a monthly projection of your expected freelance income to help avoid any quarterly surprises. For holiday projects, you might also consider negotiating payment schedules that spread across multiple months - like 50% in December and 50% in January - which could help smooth out your quarterly earnings. I've been tracking everything in a simple Google Sheet with tabs for weekly reporting, quarterly totals, and project pipeline so I can see potential issues coming. Also, don't forget that if you do have a high-earning week that puts you over the threshold, it doesn't disqualify you permanently - you just won't get benefits for that specific week, but you can resume the following week if your income drops back down.
This thread has been absolutely incredible - thank you all for sharing such detailed experiences! I'm a freelance social media manager who's been on unemployment for about a month, and I was terrified to take on any work because I didn't want to mess up my claim. Reading through everyone's advice has been like getting a masterclass in how to do this properly. I'm definitely going to set up that tracking spreadsheet with columns for date, client, project description, hours worked, gross earnings, and payment status. The tips about being conservative with time estimates and thinking quarterly rather than just weekly are game-changers. One quick question: for those tracking hours, do you count things like initial client consultations and proposal writing as work hours, or just the actual project execution time? I spend a fair amount of time on unpaid discovery calls and writing proposals, and I want to make sure I'm reporting accurately. Also, has anyone dealt with clients who want to pay via platforms like Venmo or PayPal Friends & Family to "help you avoid taxes"? I'm guessing that's still income I need to report even if there's no official paper trail, right?
@Keisha Jackson Great questions! Regarding hours tracking, you should definitely count client consultations and proposal writing as work hours - any time you spend on business activities related to your freelance work counts toward your weekly hour total. This includes initial calls, writing proposals, project planning, and even administrative tasks like invoicing. It s'all part of running your freelance business. As for payment methods, YES you absolutely must report all income regardless of how you re'paid - whether it s'check, PayPal, Venmo, cash, or even bartering. The payment method doesn t'change your reporting obligation to NYS Department of Labor. In fact, I d'be very cautious about clients who suggest using Friends "& Family payments" to avoid taxes - this is tax evasion and could get both you and the client in trouble with the IRS. It also makes your record-keeping more complicated if you need to provide documentation to unemployment office. I always insist on proper business payments PayPal (Goods & Services, business checks, etc. because) it creates a clear paper trail and shows the work is legitimate freelance business activity. Better to pay the small PayPal fees and stay completely above board!
Cole Roush
Currently dealing with this exact nightmare too! π Filed my claim in October 2024 and been stuck at $0.00 ever since. Got the same "we are continuing to work on your application" message for months now and just received another request for discharge paperwork last week. This thread is honestly a godsend - I was starting to think I was completely alone in this bureaucratic hell! All the success stories and specific advice are giving me actual hope for the first time in months. Planning to try @Mila Walker's strategy tomorrow morning: - Call at 7:30am on the dot - Ask specifically for a "claims specialist" - Have them verify what docs are actually in my file vs what I think I uploaded - Re-upload everything with crystal clear file names and get confirmation numbers The part about documents vanishing into their system explains why I keep getting requests for stuff I swear I already submitted multiple times. So frustrating but at least now I know it's not just me! Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and timelines. Seeing people eventually get $6k-8k in back pay after months of this gives me the motivation to keep fighting through it. We shouldn't have to become unemployment system experts just to get benefits we're entitled to, but here we are! Thanks for creating this thread OP - this community support is literally the only thing keeping me sane right now! ππͺ
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Liam McGuire
β’@Cole Roush you re'definitely not alone in this! π I m'actually new to this community but have been lurking and reading everyone s'experiences - it s'crazy how we re'all dealing with the exact same broken system. Filed my claim back in September and also stuck at that dreaded $0.00 with the same continuing "to work on your application message." The advice from @Mila Walker about calling for a claims specialist is brilliant - never would have thought to ask for someone specific instead of just taking whoever picks up. Also that tip about documents disappearing into their system makes so much sense! I ve probably'uploaded my termination letter like 4 times wondering why they keep saying they don t have'it. Definitely gonna try the early morning calling strategy too. This thread is giving me hope that there s actually'a way through this nightmare and that the back pay will eventually come. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories - makes me feel less crazy for dealing with this mess! π
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
Just wanted to add my experience since I'm seeing so many people in the exact same boat! Been stuck at $0 since filing in November 2024 and honestly thought I was going insane until I found this thread. Reading through all the success stories here is giving me actual hope - especially @Mila Walker's detailed breakdown of how she got $8,200 in back pay after 6 months! That claims specialist tip is pure gold π I'm definitely gonna try the early morning calling strategy (7:30am sharp) and ask specifically for someone who can see my actual file. The part about documents disappearing into their system explains SO much - I've uploaded my layoff paperwork like 5 times and they keep acting like they never got it. It's absolutely ridiculous that we have to become experts in navigating this broken system just to get benefits we earned, but at least we're not suffering through it alone. This community is seriously saving my mental health right now! For anyone else reading - don't give up! The advice in this thread actually works based on all the success stories. Gonna keep everyone posted on my progress. We got this! πͺπ
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Samantha Howard
β’@Fatima Al-Hashimi same exact situation here! π filed in December and been at $0 ever since. this thread is literally saving my sanity - was starting to think maybe i did something wrong with my application but seeing everyone else dealing with the same broken system is oddly comforting. definitely gonna try that claims specialist trick tomorrow morning! @Mila Walker s success'story gives me so much hope that this nightmare will eventually end. thanks for sharing your experience - feels good knowing we re all'fighting through this together! ππͺ
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