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Will I owe back Premium Tax Credit if employer offered health insurance but I chose marketplace coverage?

I work at CVS Pharmacy full-time. They offer health insurance but I've heard some horror stories about their coverage, so I decided to get insurance through the federal marketplace instead. When I was filling out the application, I noticed the premiums were crazy high even for the most basic plan ($135+/month). This seemed weird so I called the healthcare marketplace directly. The rep went through my application and changed one of my answers - specifically the question about whether my employer offered me healthcare. After changing that answer, all the premium prices dropped significantly. Here's the issue - my employer DID offer me healthcare for 2024, but I've been getting a $405+ premium tax credit each month to help with my marketplace insurance payments. I just got my 1095-C forms from my employer in the mail and it clearly shows that I declined their health coverage. Now I'm panicking - am I going to have to pay back all those premium tax credits I received last year during tax season?

This is a common situation, and you're right to be concerned. The Premium Tax Credit (PTC) is generally not available to people who have an offer of "affordable" health insurance from their employer that meets minimum value requirements. When an employer offers coverage that's considered affordable (costs less than 9.12% of your household income for 2024) and meets minimum value standards (pays at least 60% of covered costs), you're not eligible for the PTC on marketplace plans. The marketplace representative likely changed your answer to get you lower premiums, but this doesn't change the actual facts when it comes to tax time. Your 1095-C confirms you were offered coverage but declined it. When you file your taxes, you'll need to complete Form 8962 to reconcile any PTCs you received. Unfortunately, you'll likely need to repay some or all of the PTC you received, depending on your income level. There are repayment caps based on income, but if your income is over 400% of the federal poverty level, you may have to repay the full amount.

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Wait, so the marketplace rep basically had them commit fraud? That's crazy! Is there any way OP can avoid paying everything back? Like what if they didn't know the rules?

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The marketplace representative shouldn't have changed that answer if it wasn't accurate. While it might seem like fraud, it's more likely a misunderstanding about what constitutes "affordable" coverage. Ignorance of tax rules unfortunately doesn't exempt you from following them. However, there are repayment limitations based on your income level. If your income is below 400% of the federal poverty level, there's a cap on how much you'll have to repay, ranging from $325 to $2,825 for individuals depending on your income. If your income exceeds 400% FPL, you would have to repay the entire amount.

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I'm skeptical. How does a website know what's "affordable" when that's based on your income and family size? Did it actually save you money or just tell you what you already knew?

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The marketplace rep who changed your answer totally screwed you over. That's literally insurance fraud. You're going to owe all that money back plus probably penalties. My cousin went through this and ended up owing like $4000.

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That's not necessarily true. There are repayment caps based on income level. Not everyone has to pay the full amount back. And there's no fraud penalty if you just made a mistake and didn't knowingly provide false information.

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You're right that there are repayment caps based on income. I should have been more specific. My cousin had to pay the full amount back because his income was over 400% of the federal poverty level. If your income is lower, the repayment cap could be much less. For example, if you're under 200% FPL, you might only have to repay $325 as an individual or $650 for a family.

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Quick question - if I have a similar situation but my employer's insurance is super expensive (like $350/month for just me), can I still get the premium tax credit? My marketplace coverage is only $150/month after the credit.

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It depends on whether your employer's coverage is considered "affordable" by IRS standards. For 2024, employer coverage is considered affordable if the employee's share of premiums for self-only coverage (just you, not family) is less than 9.12% of your household income. So if you make $50,000 annually, your employer's coverage would be considered affordable if it costs less than $380 monthly ($50,000 × 9.12% ÷ 12). If it costs more than that threshold, you may still qualify for the PTC.

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This is a really tricky situation that unfortunately happens more often than it should. The marketplace representative should not have changed your answer if it wasn't accurate - that's created a big problem for you now. Here's what you need to know: If your employer offered you health insurance that meets the IRS "affordability" test (costs less than 9.12% of your household income for employee-only coverage in 2024) AND provides minimum value coverage, then you're not eligible for Premium Tax Credits on marketplace plans. The fact that CVS's coverage might be terrible doesn't matter for tax purposes - only whether it meets those technical requirements. When you file your 2024 taxes, you'll need to complete Form 8962 to reconcile the PTCs you received throughout the year. The good news is there are repayment caps based on your income level if you're under 400% of the federal poverty level. For 2024, that's about $58,320 for a single person. The caps range from $325 to $2,825 depending on your income bracket. If you're over 400% FPL, unfortunately you'd have to repay the full amount. I'd recommend calculating whether your employer's coverage was actually "affordable" based on the 9.12% test. If it wasn't affordable, you might still be eligible for the PTC. Either way, you'll want to get professional help with Form 8962 - it's one of the most complex tax forms out there.

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This is really helpful information! I'm wondering though - what if the employer's insurance technically meets the "affordability" test but has a really high deductible or poor coverage? Like if it costs 8% of income but has a $10,000 deductible, does that still count as meeting the minimum value requirement? It seems unfair that people would be stuck with terrible coverage just because it's technically "affordable" on paper.

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That's a great question about the minimum value requirement! You're absolutely right that it can seem unfair. The minimum value test is separate from the affordability test - a plan meets minimum value if it covers at least 60% of the total allowed costs of benefits that are expected to be incurred under the plan. So even if your employer's plan has a high deductible, it could still meet the minimum value requirement if the overall actuarial value is 60% or higher. Most employer plans do meet this threshold, even with high deductibles, because they typically cover preventive care at 100% and have reasonable coinsurance rates after the deductible. The IRS designed these rules to prevent people from abandoning employer coverage for subsidized marketplace plans, but you're right that it can create situations where people are stuck with plans that aren't great in practice but meet the technical requirements. Unfortunately, the quality of the network or customer service doesn't factor into the calculation - only the mathematical affordability and actuarial value tests. If you're in this situation, it's worth having a tax professional verify both tests using your specific plan details and income, because there are some nuances that could work in your favor.

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I'm really sorry you're dealing with this stress! This is unfortunately a very common situation that catches a lot of people off guard. The marketplace representative definitely shouldn't have changed your answer without explaining the tax implications. Here's what you need to focus on: First, calculate whether CVS's insurance offer was actually "affordable" under IRS rules. Take your 2024 household income and multiply by 9.12%, then divide by 12. If your monthly premium for employee-only coverage through CVS would have been less than that amount, then their offer was considered affordable and you'll likely need to repay some or all of your Premium Tax Credits. The silver lining is the repayment caps if your income is under 400% of the federal poverty level (about $58,320 for single filers in 2024). Depending on your income bracket, you might only have to repay between $325-$2,825 instead of the full $4,860+ you received. When you file your taxes, you'll need Form 8962 to reconcile everything. This form is notoriously complex, so I'd strongly recommend getting help from a tax professional who has experience with Premium Tax Credit reconciliation. They can also help you explore any legitimate deductions that might lower your adjusted gross income and potentially reduce your repayment obligation. Don't panic - while this is definitely not ideal, there are protections in place and ways to minimize the impact. Just make sure you handle it properly on your tax return.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown OP needs right now! I went through something similar two years ago and wish I'd had this level of detail upfront. One thing I'd add - when you're working with a tax professional on Form 8962, make sure they're familiar with the "family glitch" rules too. If you have family members who need coverage, there are some weird quirks about how the affordability test works for family coverage versus employee-only coverage that could potentially affect your situation. Also, @StarGazer101 is absolutely right about exploring deductions to lower your AGI. Things like HSA contributions, traditional IRA contributions, or even student loan interest can help reduce your income for PTC repayment purposes. Every little bit helps when you're trying to stay under those income thresholds for the repayment caps. The most important thing is don't ignore this issue - I've seen people try to just not report the PTC they received, and that creates way bigger problems down the road. Better to face it head-on with professional help and take advantage of whatever protections are available.

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