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Alana Willis

Failed to update my income on healthcare marketplace - income now $0, no longer qualify. What penalties will I face?

I've been getting health insurance through the marketplace for all of 2023, paying nothing monthly thanks to premium tax credits. Here's my problem - I originally signed up using my estimated income from 2022, but then my workplace suddenly closed at the end of last year. I ended up taking this entire year off, so my actual 2023 income is basically $0. I completely spaced on updating my income on the marketplace website. It honestly never crossed my mind until recently during open enrollment when I finally went in and updated it. When I did, I remembered that when you sign up, you agree to update any income changes within 30 days "under penalty of perjury" - and now I'm freaking out. I've been searching online but can't find clear answers. From what I understand, you need at least around $14k income to even qualify for marketplace insurance. When I updated my info, the system said I might qualify for Medicaid instead - but it seems too late for that now. What kind of trouble am I in? I'm mentally prepared to pay back all the premium tax credits, but since I technically didn't qualify for marketplace insurance at all, will I have to pay the full unsubsidized cost of the insurance (which I can't afford)? Am I in actual legal trouble for not reporting this? Will this all just come up when I file my taxes? I'm really worried.

Tyler Murphy

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You're not the first person to face this situation, so try not to panic. The marketplace subsidies are technically advance payments of the Premium Tax Credit (PTC), which get reconciled when you file your taxes. Since your income dropped below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL), you're in what's called the "coverage gap" in states that haven't expanded Medicaid. The good news is there's a special rule for this situation. If your estimated income qualified you for PTCs when you enrolled, but your actual income ended up below the threshold, you won't have to repay those credits. This is called the "cliff provision" or "income cliff protection." When you file your taxes, you'll need to complete Form 8962 to reconcile your premium tax credits. The form has specific instructions for people whose income falls below the threshold. You won't need to repay the subsidies you received. Regarding potential legal issues, the "penalty of perjury" language is scary, but it applies to intentional fraud, not honest mistakes or oversight. The fact that you updated your information when you realized the issue demonstrates good faith.

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Sara Unger

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Wait, are you saying they won't have to repay ANYTHING? That seems too good to be true. What if the marketplace finds out they didn't report the income change for almost a year? Could they still get in trouble for that part?

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Tyler Murphy

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The "cliff provision" specifically protects people who estimated their income would be above the threshold but ended up below it. The reconciliation process through Form 8962 handles this situation - you don't have to repay the advanced premium tax credits if your final income is below the filing threshold. The reporting requirement is separate from the repayment issue. While technically you're supposed to report changes within 30 days, the enforcement is focused on intentional fraud, not oversight or mistakes. The system is designed to catch these issues during tax filing, which is why you complete Form 8962. The fact that you voluntarily updated your information when you realized the issue demonstrates you weren't trying to commit fraud.

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Juan Moreno

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I don't get how this would help. If the marketplace says you don't qualify for subsidies because your income is too low, calling them wouldn't change the IRS rules, would it? Seems like you're still going to have the same problem at tax time.

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Amy Fleming

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - you should check if your state expanded Medicaid. If you're in an expansion state, with $0 income you would qualify for Medicaid and could potentially get retroactive coverage for some months this year. Look into what's called a "Special Enrollment Period" due to income change. Even though open enrollment is happening now, your income change earlier in the year MIGHT qualify you for a special period that could still be applied retroactively.

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Alana Willis

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Thanks for bringing this up! I'm in Florida which I just learned is NOT an expansion state. So I guess I'm stuck in that coverage gap thing people mentioned. Would I still be eligible for a Special Enrollment Period with $0 income in a non-expansion state?

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Amy Fleming

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In non-expansion states like Florida, the coverage gap is definitely a problem. With $0 income, you typically wouldn't qualify for marketplace subsidies OR Medicaid, which is exactly the gap. A Special Enrollment Period wouldn't necessarily help in your specific situation since you already have marketplace coverage, and with $0 income in a non-expansion state, you wouldn't have other affordable options to switch to. The good news is that the income cliff protection others mentioned should still apply to your current situation, meaning you likely won't have to repay the subsidies when you file taxes.

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Alice Pierce

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Just to clarify something - the income threshold to qualify for marketplace subsidies in non-expansion states is 100% of the Federal Poverty Level, not $14k exactly. For 2023, that's about $13,590 for a single person. When you file your taxes with Form 8962, if you received APTC (Advanced Premium Tax Credit) but your income falls below 100% FPL, there's a specific checkbox (I think it's Part III of the form) that handles this situation. Check "yes" to the question about estimating your income would be higher than poverty level.

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Esteban Tate

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OK but what if they audit you? Couldn't they claim you should have known your income would be $0 earlier in the year? Especially since their job ended in late 2022?

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Zoe Stavros

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I work for a tax preparation service and see this situation frequently during filing season. The key thing to understand is that the IRS distinguishes between "reasonable estimates" and intentional misrepresentation. When you initially enrolled using your 2022 income as an estimate, that was completely appropriate - you had no way of knowing your workplace would close. The fact that you took time off after losing your job is also a reasonable life decision that couldn't have been predicted when you enrolled. The "penalty of perjury" language applies to knowingly providing false information, not to life circumstances changing after enrollment. An audit would focus on whether your original estimate was reasonable based on the information available at the time, not whether it turned out to be accurate. What matters for audit protection is that you eventually updated your information when you realized the discrepancy during open enrollment. This demonstrates good faith compliance. Document everything - keep records of when you updated your marketplace information, any communications with them, and note the timeline of your job loss. The income cliff provision others mentioned is real and will protect you from repaying the subsidies. Just make sure to complete Form 8962 accurately and check the appropriate boxes for falling below the poverty threshold despite reasonable initial estimates.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who works in tax prep! I've been losing sleep over this whole situation. Just to make sure I understand correctly - when I file Form 8962, I should check the box saying I reasonably estimated my income would be above the poverty level when I enrolled, even though it ended up being $0? And that protects me from having to repay the thousands in subsidies I received throughout the year? I want to make sure I'm filling out the form correctly since this is my first time dealing with marketplace insurance.

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