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Made $98k this year with 2 kids (ages 8 and 10) and was having the same anxiety! Just got my refund estimate and it's $7,400. The Child Tax Credit is definitely your friend here - that's $6k guaranteed with your 3 kids. Plus if you've been having taxes withheld all year like you did at lower income, you're probably in good shape. I wouldn't stress too much about hitting that $100k mark, especially with dependents. The tax brackets aren't as scary as they seem when you factor in all the credits you qualify for!
Wow, this is so reassuring! I'm new to this whole tax thing at this income level and was honestly panicking. $7,400 sounds amazing - that's way better than I was expecting. I keep hearing horror stories about people suddenly owing money when they hit six figures, but it sounds like having kids really changes the game. Thanks for sharing your actual numbers, it really helps calm my nerves! š
Don't worry! I'm in a very similar situation - made $102k this year with 3 kids (ages 6, 9, and 11). I was freaking out about the same thing but just ran the numbers and I'm still getting back around $9k. The Child Tax Credit is huge - that's $6k right there for your 3 kids. Plus if you didn't adjust your withholding when your income went up, you probably had more taxes taken out than needed. The key thing is that tax credits reduce your tax liability dollar-for-dollar, so even if you're in a higher bracket, those credits still pack a punch. You'll probably be pleasantly surprised!
This is so helpful! I've been literally losing sleep over this. $9k back sounds incredible - way better than I was expecting. I'm definitely in the camp of people who didn't adjust withholding when income went up, so hopefully that works in my favor like it did for you. It's crazy how much peace of mind these real examples give compared to all the scary tax articles online. Really appreciate you sharing your actual situation! š
As a CPA who works with a lot of small craft businesses, I wanted to chime in with some official guidance that might help clarify things! For your situation with expected revenue of $6-8k, starting as a sole proprietorship (self-employed) is definitely the right move. The LLC decision can wait until you're more established. A few key points that haven't been fully covered: **Regarding those mobile payment fees:** Yes, they're 100% deductible as business expenses on Schedule C, Line 10 (fees and commissions). Keep good records of all processing fees - they add up quickly! **Self-employment tax reality check:** Remember you'll owe both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (15.3%) on your net profit. So if you profit $6k, expect roughly $918 in SE tax alone, plus regular income tax at your bracket rate. **Quarterly payments:** The $1,000 threshold mentioned earlier is correct, but there's a safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability through withholding/quarterlies, you won't owe penalties even if you underpay the current year. **Business bank account:** Even as sole proprietor, get a separate business checking account. Makes record-keeping infinitely easier and looks more professional to the IRS if you're ever audited. The tax situation really isn't as scary as it seems once you get organized. Focus on good record-keeping from day one - that's 90% of the battle!
Thank you so much for jumping in with the CPA perspective! This is incredibly valuable information. The safe harbor rule you mentioned is something I hadn't heard about before - that's a huge relief knowing there's some protection against penalties if you pay at least what you owed last year. Since this is my first year with business income, I'm assuming that rule wouldn't apply to me yet, but good to know for future years. The separate business bank account tip is noted! I was wondering if that was really necessary for such a small operation, but you're right that it would make everything cleaner for record-keeping and tax purposes. One follow-up question about the self-employment tax calculation - when you mention the 15.3% on net profit, is there any minimum threshold where SE tax kicks in, or does it apply to any amount of self-employment income? Just trying to understand if there's a small amount that might be exempt. Also, do you have any recommendations for simple bookkeeping software that works well for craft businesses? I'm trying to decide between just using spreadsheets vs investing in something more robust from the start.
Great questions! Let me address both: **Self-employment tax threshold:** SE tax applies to any net earnings from self-employment of $400 or more. So even if you only profit $500 from your craft business, you'd owe SE tax on that amount. There's no exemption for small amounts once you cross that $400 threshold. **Bookkeeping software recommendations:** For craft businesses just starting out, I usually recommend QuickBooks Self-Employed or Wave (which is free). Both integrate well with Square and other payment processors, automatically categorize transactions, and can track mileage. They're much more reliable than spreadsheets and will save you hours during tax season. If you want something even simpler to start, FreshBooks is very user-friendly for beginners. The key is picking something you'll actually use consistently rather than the "perfect" system you'll abandon after a month. Since you're just starting out, even a simple system like Wave would be a huge upgrade from manual tracking and will grow with your business. Plus, having clean digital records makes everything easier if you ever need to provide documentation to the IRS or when you're ready to work with an accountant. The most important thing is to start tracking everything from day one - every sale, every expense, every fee. Good habits now will save you major headaches later!
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who made the jump from self-employed to LLC after year two - the transition really wasn't as complicated as I feared! When I started my candle-making business, I went the self-employed route based on advice similar to what's been shared here. It was definitely the right call for getting started quickly and keeping things simple. The LLC conversion process involved getting an EIN (took 5 minutes online), opening a new business bank account, and updating my business registration with the state. The biggest "gotcha" was that I had to be more careful about keeping business and personal expenses completely separate once I became an LLC. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - even as self-employed, start treating your business like a real business from day one. Use that separate bank account, track every expense, and keep digital copies of all receipts. When I eventually did switch to LLC, I had clean records that made the transition smooth. Also, don't underestimate the psychological benefit of having an LLC when you start approaching wholesale buyers or higher-end craft shows. It does add credibility, but only pursue it when the numbers make sense for your situation. For someone expecting $6-8k revenue in year one, definitely start self-employed and focus on building your customer base. The business structure decision will become clearer as you grow!
This is such a reassuring perspective, thank you! I've been overthinking the LLC decision and worrying I'd be "locked in" to whatever choice I make initially. Knowing that the transition is manageable takes a lot of pressure off. Your point about treating the business professionally from day one really resonates - I can see how developing good habits early would make any future transition much smoother. The separate bank account seems to be unanimous advice from everyone here, so that's definitely happening before my first craft fair. The credibility aspect with wholesale buyers is something I hadn't fully considered. Right now I'm focused on direct sales at craft fairs and online, but if the business grows to the point where I'm approaching stores or galleries, having that LLC status could definitely matter. I'm feeling much more confident about starting as self-employed and just focusing on building a solid foundation. Sometimes the simplest path really is the best one when you're just getting started!
I been using Chime for 2 years now. no issues with taxes or direct deposits ever. just make sure ur account info is 100% correct when u file
I've been using Chime for my refunds for the past 3 years and honestly it's been pretty reliable. Usually get my money 1-2 days early like they advertise. The key is making sure your routing/account numbers are exactly right when you file - any typo will cause delays. No hidden fees on my end, but definitely keep some backup plan just in case there are processing hiccups.
One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - make sure you're tracking your "basis" in the S Corp properly. When you leave profits in the business like that $135k, it increases your basis in the company. This becomes important later if you ever take out more than the accumulated earnings or if you sell the business. Your basis starts with what you initially invested in the company, then increases with your share of profits (even if left in the business) and decreases with distributions you actually take. Keeping good records of this will save you headaches down the road, especially if you ever need to take large distributions or loans from the company. Most people don't think about basis tracking until they need it, but it's much easier to maintain these records as you go rather than trying to reconstruct them years later.
This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I learned this the hard way when I tried to take a larger distribution a few years later and my accountant had to spend hours reconstructing my basis calculations. Is there a simple way to track basis changes throughout the year, or do most people just wait until tax time to calculate it? I'm thinking of setting up a basic spreadsheet to track my initial investment, plus annual profits, minus distributions, but wondering if there's a better system that integrates with accounting software.
One more consideration that might be relevant - if you're planning to keep that $135k in the business for a while, make sure you're at least earning some interest on it. Since you'll be paying taxes on those profits this year regardless, you might as well put that money to work in a high-yield business savings account or short-term CDs. Also, don't forget that keeping cash reserves in the business can actually be smart for cash flow management and unexpected expenses. Just make sure your "reasonable salary" is truly reasonable for your industry and role - the IRS scrutinizes S Corps where owners take very low salaries but leave large amounts as retained earnings, since it can look like you're trying to avoid payroll taxes. The good news is that S Corp taxation is generally more straightforward than people think once you understand the pass-through concept. You're essentially paying individual tax rates on business profits, but you get to avoid the double taxation that C Corps face.
Great point about putting that cash to work! I hadn't thought about the fact that I'm paying taxes on it anyway, so I might as well earn something on it. Do you know if there are any restrictions on what types of investments an S Corp can make with retained earnings? I was thinking about a high-yield savings account or maybe some short-term Treasury bills, but want to make sure I don't accidentally create any tax complications by investing business funds. Also, your comment about reasonable salary is making me second-guess myself. I've been taking about $85k as salary on a business that's generating around $220k in profit. Does that sound reasonable, or should I be taking more as salary to avoid IRS scrutiny?
Diego Flores
One thing that helped me when I was starting out was understanding the concept of "realization" in tax law. The IRS only cares about transactions where you've actually realized a gain or loss - meaning money has changed hands. Just holding stocks that go up or down in value is like having a baseball card collection that becomes more valuable over time. You don't owe taxes on your baseball cards getting more expensive until you actually sell them to someone else. The same principle applies to your brokerage account. Your $10k paper gain is just that - on paper. Until you click "sell" and receive actual cash proceeds, it's not a taxable event. This is why people talk about "tax-loss harvesting" - strategically selling losing positions to offset gains, because you control when to realize those losses. Keep doing what you're doing - buy and hold is not only a solid investment strategy, but it's also very tax-efficient!
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Jay Lincoln
ā¢That's such a helpful analogy with the baseball cards! I never thought about it that way but it makes perfect sense. So basically the IRS doesn't care what my portfolio is worth today, they only care when I actually turn those stocks back into cash. This really takes the pressure off of tracking every little price movement. I was getting stressed watching my account balance change daily thinking I might need to report something. Thanks for explaining it in such simple terms!
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Oliver Zimmermann
Just to add another perspective that might be helpful - I work as a tax preparer and see this confusion all the time with new investors. The key thing to remember is that the U.S. tax system is based on "realization," not "appreciation." Think of it this way: if you bought a house for $200k and it's now worth $300k, you don't pay taxes on that $100k increase until you actually sell the house. Stocks work exactly the same way. Your brokerage will automatically send you the appropriate tax forms when there's actually something to report. So if you only bought stocks in 2024 and didn't sell any, you won't receive a 1099-B for that tax year. When you do eventually sell in future years, that's when you'll get the 1099-B showing your proceeds, and that's when you'll report it on Schedule D. The only time you might need to think about taxes before selling is if you're doing strategic tax planning (like tax-loss harvesting near year-end), but that's an advanced strategy you don't need to worry about as a beginner. Keep good records of your purchases, but don't stress about reporting anything until you actually sell!
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Evelyn Kelly
ā¢This is exactly the kind of clear, professional explanation I was hoping to find! As someone who just started investing this year, it's really reassuring to hear from an actual tax preparer that this is a common question and that I'm not missing anything obvious. The house analogy is perfect too - I definitely understand that I don't pay taxes on my home's appreciation until I sell it, so it makes complete sense that stocks work the same way. One quick follow-up question: when you mention keeping good records of purchases, what specific information should I be tracking? I assume purchase date, number of shares, and price per share at minimum?
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Giovanni Marino
ā¢Exactly! You've got the core information right. For each purchase, you want to track: purchase date, number of shares, price per share, and total cost (including any fees). Most brokerages will track this automatically, but having your own backup records is smart. Also keep records of any corporate actions like stock splits, spin-offs, or mergers, as these can affect your cost basis calculations when you eventually sell. And if you ever transfer stocks between brokerages, make sure the cost basis information transfers correctly - sometimes there can be glitches in that process. The good news is that modern brokerage platforms make this pretty easy with downloadable transaction histories and tax documents. But having your own simple spreadsheet as a backup has saved many of my clients headaches down the road!
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