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My husband and I used TurboTax for our taxes this year (which was honestly pretty good for most things), but we completely forgot to take the Required Minimum Distribution from his inherited IRA in 2023. Now we need to submit Form 5329 with our tax return, but we've already e-filed our 1040. I'm wondering if we can just send in the 5329 by itself now, or if we have to do an amended return with the 1040-X and attach the 5329 to that? The penalty is going to be around $1,250 (50% of the $2,500 we were supposed to withdraw), so we want to make sure we handle this correctly. I've read something about including a letter explaining reasonable cause to potentially waive the penalty, but I'm not sure if that's possible in our case since we straight up forgot. Has anyone dealt with this before? Any advice would be super helpful!
I recently did a bit of freelance work and only made about $520 (CAD) total. I had some work-related expenses that came to roughly $280, but I stupidly didn't keep any of the receipts or documentation. Will this cause issues when filing my taxes? I'm trying to fill out the T2125 Self-Employed form, but I'm stuck on the expenses section since I don't have proper documentation. Can I still submit the form with just an approximate expense amount, or will they reject it? Do I just lose the ability to claim the deductions? Also, since my income from this gig is pretty low (under $600), I'm assuming I don't actually owe any taxes on it because it's below the basic personal amount in Canada? Just want to make sure I'm handling this correctly since it's my first time filing with self-employment income.
Anyone know if this is different in Quebec? I have a similar situation but with Revenu Quebec and they seem to have different rules for everything...
I went through almost the exact same situation last year with my first bit of freelance income. Here's what I learned from my tax preparer: You absolutely need to report the $520 income on your T2125 - there's no minimum threshold for reporting self-employment earnings. The good news is that with such a small amount, you likely won't owe any income tax on it due to the basic personal exemption. For the expenses without receipts, I'd strongly recommend NOT claiming them. I made the mistake of estimating some expenses my first year and it caused headaches later when CRA requested documentation during a routine review. It's better to miss out on legitimate deductions than risk issues with unsupported claims. One thing that helped me going forward was setting up a simple system: I use a dedicated email folder for all business-related receipts and confirmations, plus I take photos of physical receipts immediately. Even something as basic as a spreadsheet tracking expenses by date and category makes tax time so much easier. Since this is your first time with self-employment income, consider keeping better records even for small gigs - you never know when that side work might grow into something bigger!
So I started a new job about 4 months ago and I've been stuck on emergency tax this whole time. My paychecks have been getting absolutely destroyed because of this! I finally managed to get through to HMRC on Oct 12th and they sorted it out with my employer to fix my tax code to the correct one. My question is - when I get paid at the end of October (which will be my first paycheck with the correct tax code), will the system automatically refund all the extra tax I've been paying these past 4 months? Or do I need to do something else to get that money back? It's a pretty significant amount at this point and I really need it back ASAP. Has anyone dealt with this before? I'm hoping it just shows up in my next paycheck without me having to chase it down.
Anyone know if you get interest on the refunded emergency tax? Been on emergency tax for 6 months now and still waiting for my code to be fixed. That's a lot of my money HMRC has been sitting on.
Just to add some reassurance - I went through exactly this situation about 8 months ago. Was on emergency tax for nearly 5 months due to a mess-up with my P45 from my previous job. When HMRC finally sorted my tax code, I got back over ยฃ1,400 in my next paycheck! The system really does work automatically once your code is corrected. Your payroll department will recalculate everything from April 6th (start of tax year) and you'll get the difference back. Just make sure to double-check the amount on your payslip - sometimes there can be small errors in the calculation, but in my experience it's usually spot on. The waiting is the hardest part, but once it's fixed, the relief is incredible. You should definitely see that refund in your next pay!
Hey all! Hoping someone might have insight on a 60-day rollover situation that's become a real headache for us. Posting this so maybe others can avoid our mistake! We recently bought a new house while preparing to sell our current one. Since we were still a few weeks away from listing our home, we needed down payment funds. Our mortgage lender mentioned using a 60-day rollover from retirement accounts. Here's where I messed up - I thought I could withdraw from multiple IRA accounts at different brokerages (all originally from old 401k rollovers) and still qualify for the 60-day rollover rule. So I had funds wired directly from these separate IRAs to our escrow account for closing. Fast forward to meeting with a financial advisor about setting up new accounts, and he calls back with bad news - his tax team says the 60-day rollover can only apply to ONE of the accounts. We've asked around and getting conflicting answers, but it seems like we're facing penalties on all but one withdrawal. My questions: 1. Is there any way to return the funds to avoid penalties since they came from different accounts? 2. Would converting one account to a Roth and doing the 60-day rollover on the other help minimize the damage (understanding we'd pay conversion taxes)? I know this wasn't my smartest financial move... but any guidance would be appreciated! ๐
Dylan, I feel for you on this situation - it's a common misconception that many folks have about IRA rollovers. Just wanted to add a couple of points that might help minimize the damage: 1. Make sure you designate your LARGEST withdrawal as the one qualifying for the 60-day rollover treatment. This will minimize the taxable income from the distributions that don't qualify. 2. If you're still within the 60-day window for any of the distributions, complete that rollover ASAP. The clock started ticking from the date you received each distribution. 3. Consider whether you might qualify for any penalty exceptions on the taxable distributions. While the first-time homebuyer exception won't work for you, there might be other hardship exceptions depending on your specific circumstances. 4. When you file your taxes, you'll want to work with a tax professional who can help you properly report this on Form 8606 (for any after-tax basis you might have) and Form 5329 (to calculate any penalties and claim exceptions). The silver lining is that this is primarily a tax issue, not a permanent financial disaster. You'll owe taxes and potentially penalties, but you still have your house and the withdrawn funds served their purpose. Expensive lesson, but you're not alone in making this mistake!
Dylan, this is such a frustrating situation but you're definitely not alone in making this mistake. The IRS rollover rules are genuinely confusing, and even some financial professionals don't fully understand them. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - since you mentioned you're preparing to sell your current home, be mindful of how the timing of these distributions and your home sale might interact tax-wise. If you're going to have a significant capital gain from the home sale, you could end up in a higher tax bracket for the year, which would make the tax hit from these distributions even more painful. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting all the documentation together now - dates of each distribution, amounts, which IRA custodians they came from, etc. You'll need this for Form 8606 and Form 5329 when you file your taxes. The IRS can be pretty particular about the paperwork on retirement account distributions. The good news is that while this is an expensive lesson, you're not the first person to learn it the hard way. At least you caught the issue before making any additional moves that could have made things worse. Sometimes the best financial education comes from our mistakes, unfortunately!
Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and advice on this thread! As someone new to navigating IRA rules, this has been incredibly educational. The one-rollover-per-12-months rule is definitely something I wish was more widely known - it seems like such an easy trap to fall into when you have multiple retirement accounts. Dylan, I'm sorry you're dealing with this situation, but thank you for sharing it. It's definitely going to help me (and probably others) avoid making the same mistake. The advice about designating your largest withdrawal for the 60-day rollover treatment is really smart thinking. One question for the group - are there any good resources or publications where someone could learn about these kinds of retirement account rules proactively? I'd rather educate myself now than learn through expensive mistakes later!
Great question about resources! I'd recommend starting with IRS Publication 590-A and 590-B - they cover IRA contributions and distributions in detail, including all the rollover rules. The IRS website also has some good FAQs specifically about rollovers. For ongoing education, I've found the Journal of Accountancy and some of the professional tax prep sites have really good articles that break down complex scenarios like Dylan's. Also, if you have a 401k through work, many plan administrators offer educational webinars that cover these transition situations. One thing I learned the hard way (though not as expensively as Dylan!) is that retirement account rules often have multiple layers - like how the one-rollover rule applies per person across all traditional IRAs, but Roth IRAs have their own separate set of rules. It's definitely worth understanding these nuances before you need to make decisions under pressure like buying a house. The taxr.ai tool that Dmitry mentioned earlier might be worth checking out too for specific scenario planning. Having something analyze your actual account statements could help catch issues before they become expensive problems.
So I'm trying to plan my finances for the month and I need to figure out exactly when my tax refund will hit my account. Here's what I've done so far: 1. Filed my taxes on March 3rd 2. Got the acceptance confirmation same day 3. WMR shows approved but no deposit date yet 4. This is my first year using US Bank (switched from my credit union) Does US Bank typically deposit tax refunds early like some online banks do, or do they wait until the exact date the IRS gives? I'm trying to time some bills and daycare payments, so knowing when the money will actually be available would really help. I've heard some banks release funds 1-2 days early but not sure about US Bank specifically.
One thing I've noticed from previous years that nobody's mentioned yet - US Bank sometimes shows pending deposits a day before they're available. So while they don't release the funds early, you might see it pending in your account the day before. Last year my tax refund showed as pending on a Thursday night but wasn't available until Friday morning. Might help you plan if you can at least see it's coming! I'm honestly impressed with how much detailed knowledge people have shared here about the specific banking policies.
I can add some insight as someone who's been with US Bank for about 4 years now. They're pretty consistent about depositing exactly on the IRS date - no early releases that I've ever seen. However, one helpful tip: if you have the US Bank mobile app, you can set up account alerts for ACH deposits over a certain amount. That way you'll get a notification the moment your refund actually hits, rather than constantly checking your balance. Also, since you filed on March 3rd and got accepted same day, you're probably looking at a deposit date around March 21st-24th based on the current processing times. The fact that WMR shows approved is a good sign - you should see a specific date appear within the next few days when it updates.
Nia Davis
Something people forget about missed RMDs is that you should still take the distribution ASAP even while you're filing the 5329. The IRS looks more favorably on waiving the penalty if you've already corrected the error by taking the distribution, rather than just reporting the missed distribution while still not having taken it out.
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Mateo Perez
Is there a time limit on when you need to take the missed distribution for the IRS to consider waiving the penalty? We discovered we missed our 2023 RMD just last week and I'm wondering if taking it now (in April 2025) is too late?
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Nia Davis
There's no specific time limit defined by the IRS for taking a missed distribution, but the sooner the better. Taking it now in April 2025 for a missed 2023 RMD is definitely better than not taking it at all. The IRS primarily wants to see that you're correcting the mistake and making a good faith effort to comply. In your reasonable cause letter, make sure to mention the exact date you took the missed distribution once you realized the error. This demonstrates that you're taking responsibility and actively fixing the situation, which significantly improves your chances of getting the penalty waived.
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Aisha Rahman
One thing to keep in mind - if you and your spouse file jointly but the IRA is only in one name, make sure you're putting the correct SSN on the standalone 5329. I made this mistake and put both our names and SSNs on the form, which caused confusion and delayed processing. For an inherited IRA, you need just the account owner's information.
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CosmicCrusader
Does the reasonable cause letter need to be signed by both spouses if you file jointly, or just by the IRA owner?
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Jenna Sloan
Just the IRA owner needs to sign the reasonable cause letter. Since it's your husband's inherited IRA, only he needs to sign the letter that accompanies Form 5329. The letter should be written from his perspective explaining the missed RMD. Even though you file jointly, the IRA and the associated penalty are tied to the account owner specifically, so all the documentation should reflect that.
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