Has anyone used ABGi-USA for manufacturing tax credits? Legit company?
I'm a department head at a mid-sized manufacturing facility and recently got contacted by a company called ABGi-USA. They said they can analyze our payroll records and other financial data to see if we qualify for tax reimbursements based on prototype development and R&D work we've been doing. Their pitch is that many manufacturing companies miss out on these tax credits. They don't charge any upfront fees - they only take a percentage of whatever tax credits they identify and help us recover. I'm hesitant because I don't want to waste time or potentially expose our company data if this isn't legitimate. Has anyone worked with ABGi-USA before or similar tax credit recovery services? I tried searching online but couldn't find many detailed reviews about their services or success rates. Any insight on whether this is a legit opportunity or if I should be cautious would be really helpful. Thanks in advance!
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Mei Liu
I work with manufacturing clients on tax matters, and these R&D tax credit services are definitely legitimate - though quality varies widely between providers. The R&D tax credit (officially the Research & Experimentation tax credit) is a real federal tax incentive designed for companies developing new products, manufacturing processes, or technical solutions. Many manufacturing companies qualify without realizing it because "research" in this context doesn't mean lab coats - it includes developing prototypes, improving production processes, creating new manufacturing techniques, and solving technical challenges. The credit can be substantial - often worth tens of thousands in tax savings that companies miss. Regarding ABGi specifically, they're one of several firms specializing in this niche. The "no fee until we find savings" model is standard in the industry. Most firms charge a percentage of the credits identified (typically 15-30%).
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Thanks for the explanation. I'm wondering how far back these companies can go to find tax credits? Like if we've been doing prototype work for years but never claimed anything, can they go back and get that money? Also, do you need super detailed documentation or is it enough to just have payroll records for people who worked on development?
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Mei Liu
•The IRS allows you to amend returns and claim missed R&D credits for the past three open tax years. So if you've been doing qualifying work but never claimed the credits, there could be significant recovery potential there. Documentation requirements vary based on the size of the claim, but you'll typically need more than just payroll records. The strongest claims include project documentation showing technical challenges overcome, timesheets or estimates of hours spent on qualifying activities, and evidence of the iterative development process. Most good providers will help you gather this documentation and present it properly to maximize your credit while minimizing audit risk.
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Amara Chukwu
I started using https://taxr.ai after getting frustrated with how complicated these R&D credit claims were becoming for my manufacturing business. We tried doing it ourselves for two years but kept running into documentation issues. What I liked about taxr.ai is they analyzed all our existing project docs, payroll data, and even engineer meeting notes to build really solid documentation that backed up our credit claims. Their system highlighted exactly which activities qualified under IRS guidelines and which employees were involved in legitimate R&D work. They caught qualifying activities we had completely missed, like when our team developed that modified cooling process that ended up being scrapped - turns out failed experiments still qualify!
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Giovanni Conti
•Did you have to upload a bunch of sensitive company data to their system? That's what makes me nervous about these services. Also, did they help with both federal and state R&D credits or just federal?
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
•How much time did it actually save compared to working with a traditional tax consultant? Every time we've used consultants for anything tax-related, we still end up doing 80% of the work gathering all the documentation anyway.
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Amara Chukwu
•They have a secure data portal for uploading documents, and they signed our standard NDA before we shared anything. I was pretty cautious about that too. They actually helped with both federal and state credits - we're in Pennsylvania and they identified additional state-specific opportunities we hadn't even considered. The time savings was significant compared to our previous consultant. We spent maybe 10-15 hours total gathering information, but they did all the hard work of analyzing which activities qualified and building the proper documentation. Our previous consultant had us spending weeks pulling together information they should have been helping with.
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
Just wanted to follow up here - I ended up trying https://taxr.ai after posting my skeptical question. The experience was surprisingly good. I was right that we still needed to gather our project documentation, but their system made it much clearer WHAT to gather and WHY it qualified. The big difference was they had templates and examples showing exactly what documentation would strengthen our claim. Their AI analyzed our engineering meeting notes and flagged specific projects that had strong R&D elements we hadn't considered. They also helped us document some failed experiments that still qualified as legitimate research costs. We ended up identifying about $82,000 in credits we would have completely missed. Definitely worth the time investment.
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NeonNova
If you're going to move forward with claiming R&D credits, get ready for potential IRS questions. We claimed these legitimately in 2020 and got selected for review. Took forever to get someone on the phone at the IRS to answer basic questions about what they needed. We finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an agent after spending days listening to "all representatives are busy" messages. See how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c It was a lifesaver during the review process since we needed clarification on some documentation requirements that weren't clear from the initial notice. Got through to an actual IRS person in about 15 minutes after spending days trying on our own.
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Dylan Campbell
•How does this actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Does this service somehow bypass the wait times or do they just keep calling for you?
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Sofia Hernandez
•This sounds too good to be true. I've literally spent 4+ hours on hold with the IRS multiple times this year. If this actually works, why isn't everyone using it? There must be a catch.
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NeonNova
•It's essentially an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When they finally reach a human agent, you get a call connecting you directly to that agent. It doesn't "skip the line" - it just waits in it for you so you don't have to sit there listening to the hold music for hours. There's no special magic to it - they're just solving the problem of wasted time. Think of it like those services that stand in line for concert tickets, except this is for the IRS phone queue. It worked exactly as described for us and saved me from wasting an entire workday on hold.
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Sofia Hernandez
Well I feel silly for being skeptical. After posting my comment, I decided to try https://claimyr.com when I needed to call about a notice regarding our business taxes. I was absolutely convinced it wouldn't work, but I was desperate after two failed attempts spending 2+ hours on hold. The service did exactly what was promised - took about 40 minutes total (apparently a "good" day for IRS wait times), and I got a call connecting me directly to an agent who was actually knowledgeable about business tax issues. Saved me from wasting another afternoon on hold. The IRS agent even clarified some questions about documenting our manufacturing R&D activities that my accountant had been unclear about. Wish I'd known about this years ago during all those painful tax seasons!
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
I'd recommend getting quotes from multiple providers before deciding. We used a firm similar to ABGi (won't name them) that promised big credits, but they took a massive 35% cut which felt excessive. Another firm offered similar services for 20%. Also check what happens if you get audited - some firms provide audit support as part of their service, others charge extra. And be wary of firms claiming they can get you credits for activities that clearly don't qualify. The reputable ones are careful about staying within IRS guidelines.
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AstroAdventurer
•This is really helpful advice, thanks. Did your company see a significant return from working with these kinds of services? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the effort or if the potential credit amounts are pretty minimal for smaller operations like ours.
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
•We definitely saw a worthwhile return. We're a mid-sized operation (about 80 employees) and got around $115,000 in federal credits over a three-year period. That was after paying the firm's percentage. The credits were higher than we expected because many of our process improvement projects qualified as R&D that we never would have considered eligible. Just make sure your expectations are realistic. Some firms will throw out huge numbers to get you excited, but the legitimate ones will do a preliminary assessment before making specific claims. It's definitely worth exploring as many smaller manufacturers leave significant money on the table by not claiming these credits.
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Ava Thompson
Has anyone here been audited after claiming these R&D credits? I've heard horror stories about companies getting huge tax bills years later when the IRS decided their R&D activities didn't qualify. What was the audit experience like?
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Miguel Ramos
•We went through an R&D credit review (not a full audit) about 2 years ago. It wasn't as bad as I expected. They requested documentation showing how our projects met the four-part test for qualified research. Having good contemporaneous documentation was key - project plans, testing logs, emails discussing technical challenges. We had to provide additional information for about 30% of the projects we claimed, but ultimately they accepted about 85% of our total credit amount. The process took about 4 months from first notice to resolution.
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Sofia Torres
I've been lurking on this thread because we're in a similar situation - got approached by ABGi about 6 months ago but never followed through. Reading everyone's experiences here is really helpful. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have worked with these R&D credit services, how do they handle situations where your manufacturing processes have evolved over time? We've been continuously improving our production line over the past few years, but it's hard to pinpoint exactly which improvements would qualify as "research" versus just normal business operations. Also, has anyone dealt with these services for equipment purchases? We bought some specialized machinery last year that required significant customization and testing to integrate with our existing systems. Not sure if that development work would qualify or if it's considered routine installation. The percentage fees seem reasonable based on what everyone's sharing, especially if we're talking about five or six-figure recoveries. Just want to make sure we have realistic expectations before moving forward.
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Isaac Wright
The continuous improvement question is a great one - this is exactly where many manufacturers miss opportunities. The key distinction the IRS looks for is whether your process improvements involved uncertainty about the method, capability, or appropriate design. If you were solving technical problems or testing different approaches to achieve better performance, efficiency, or quality, that often qualifies. For example, if you were just following manufacturer instructions to install equipment, that's routine. But if you had to experiment with different configurations, develop custom interfaces, or solve technical challenges to make it work with your existing systems, that development work could qualify for R&D credits. Equipment purchases themselves don't qualify, but the labor costs for customization, testing, and problem-solving during integration often do. The specialized machinery situation you described sounds promising - especially if your team spent time troubleshooting, testing different setups, or developing workarounds. Good R&D credit providers will walk through your operations and help identify these qualifying activities. They're trained to spot the technical problem-solving that manufacturers do routinely but don't think of as "research." The documentation doesn't have to be perfect - even informal emails between engineers discussing technical challenges can support a claim. Given the timeframes and amounts others have shared, it's definitely worth getting a preliminary assessment. Most reputable firms will do an initial review to give you a realistic estimate before you commit to anything.
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Malik Johnson
•This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was hoping to find! Isaac, your breakdown of what qualifies versus routine operations is really clarifying. I think we've been too conservative in our thinking about what counts as R&D. We actually had a situation last year where we spent months figuring out how to integrate a new quality control system with our existing production software. There was a lot of trial and error, custom coding, and problem-solving involved. Based on what you're describing, that sounds like it could potentially qualify since we were definitely dealing with technical uncertainty and had to develop our own solutions. @Sofia Torres - your equipment customization situation sounds very similar to what we went through. If you decide to move forward with getting an assessment, I d'be curious to hear how it goes. Might help me decide whether to revisit this for our company too. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding how these services actually work in practice.
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Andre Dupont
I've been following this discussion with great interest as we're facing a similar decision. We're a smaller manufacturing company (about 45 employees) and have been contacted by several R&D credit firms over the past year, including ABGi. What's really valuable about this thread is seeing the actual numbers and experiences from companies that have gone through the process. The $82k and $115k recoveries mentioned here are significant amounts that could really impact our operations. One concern I have that hasn't been fully addressed - how do these firms handle the documentation process for smaller companies that might not have kept detailed project records? We do a lot of process improvement and custom tooling development, but our documentation tends to be pretty informal. Most of our engineering discussions happen in person or through quick emails rather than formal project documentation. Also wondering about timing - if we decide to move forward, is there an optimal time of year to start this process? We're coming up on tax season and I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse for getting started with R&D credit recovery. The success stories here are encouraging, but I want to make sure we're not setting ourselves up for disappointment if our documentation isn't as robust as what larger companies might have.
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Anastasia Popova
•Andre, your situation sounds very similar to where we were a few years ago - smaller operation with informal documentation processes. Don't let that discourage you from exploring this. Most good R&D credit providers are used to working with manufacturers who don't have formal project documentation. They'll help you reconstruct the qualifying activities using whatever records you do have - emails, purchase orders, timesheets, even calendar entries showing when your team was working on technical problems. Regarding timing, we actually started our process in February and it worked out well. The firms aren't as swamped during non-tax season, so you might get more attention. Plus, if you're claiming credits for prior years (which most companies can do), the timing doesn't affect those recoveries. For informal documentation, the key is being able to demonstrate that you were solving technical challenges rather than just doing routine work. Even a quick email thread about troubleshooting a production issue or discussing different approaches to solve a problem can support a claim. The providers are pretty good at helping you identify and organize this type of evidence. Given your company size and the types of activities you mentioned, it's definitely worth getting a preliminary assessment. The worst case is you spend a few hours on a call and learn it's not worthwhile. Best case, you recover significant credits you didn't know existed.
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Emma Davis
Thanks for starting this thread - it's been incredibly informative! I'm the CFO at a mid-sized manufacturing company and we've also been approached by ABGi recently. Reading through everyone's experiences has given me much more confidence about exploring this. What strikes me is how many legitimate qualifying activities companies are missing. We do continuous improvement projects, prototype development for custom client solutions, and have spent considerable time this year troubleshooting integration challenges with new equipment. Based on the examples shared here, it sounds like we could have significant unclaimed credits. The key takeaways I'm getting are: 1) Get quotes from multiple providers and compare not just fees but also audit support, 2) The "no upfront fee" model is standard and legitimate, 3) Even informal documentation can support claims if it shows technical problem-solving, and 4) The potential recoveries (based on the numbers shared here) make it worth the time investment. I'm planning to reach out to a few firms including ABGi for preliminary assessments. The success stories here from companies similar to ours are encouraging, especially knowing that even smaller operations have seen substantial returns. Has anyone worked specifically with ABGi that the original poster mentioned, or would you recommend starting with other firms first?
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Amina Toure
•Emma, I haven't worked with ABGi specifically, but based on everything shared in this thread, I'd definitely recommend getting quotes from multiple providers before deciding. The experiences here show there can be significant differences in fees (20% vs 35%) and service quality. From what I've gathered, the key questions to ask any provider include: What's their fee structure? Do they provide audit support? How do they handle documentation for companies with informal records? And can they give you a realistic preliminary assessment before you commit? The success stories here are really encouraging - especially seeing companies our size recover $80k+ in credits. It sounds like the legitimate providers are pretty good at identifying qualifying activities that manufacturers typically overlook. Even our routine troubleshooting and process improvements might qualify if they involved technical uncertainty. I'm in a similar position as you and planning to start with preliminary assessments from 2-3 different firms to compare their approaches. The time investment seems minimal for the potential upside, especially since most can go back three years for missed credits.
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William Rivera
This has been an incredibly helpful discussion! As someone who's been hesitant about these R&D credit services, reading everyone's real experiences has been eye-opening. What really stands out to me is how many qualifying activities manufacturing companies are missing. We've done prototype development, process improvements, and custom tooling work over the past few years but never considered it "research." The examples shared here - like failed experiments still qualifying and equipment integration challenges counting as R&D - show there's probably money we've left on the table. The fee structures (20-35%) and success stories ($80k-$115k recoveries) give me a much better sense of what to expect. I appreciate the practical advice about getting multiple quotes, asking about audit support, and not being discouraged by informal documentation. For ABGi specifically, it sounds like they're one of several legitimate providers in this space, but the consensus seems to be to shop around and compare approaches. The "no upfront fee" model appears standard, which reduces the risk of trying. I'm convinced enough by the experiences shared here to at least get a preliminary assessment. Even if we only recover a fraction of what others have found, it would be worth the time investment. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real-world experiences - this is exactly the kind of insight I was hoping to find when researching these services.
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Natalie Chen
•William, I'm glad this discussion has been helpful! I was in the exact same position a few months ago - skeptical but curious after being contacted by one of these R&D credit firms. What convinced me to move forward was realizing how much qualifying work we'd been doing without thinking of it as "research." Like you mentioned, we had several projects involving custom tooling modifications, software integration challenges, and process optimization that required significant problem-solving and testing. None of it felt like traditional R&D at the time, but it definitely involved technical uncertainty and iterative development. The preliminary assessment process was actually pretty straightforward - most firms will do a brief review of your operations and give you a ballpark estimate before you commit to anything. It's worth having those conversations with 2-3 providers to compare not just their fee structures but also their approach to documentation and audit support. Based on the experiences shared here, even smaller manufacturing operations seem to find worthwhile recoveries. The key is working with providers who understand manufacturing processes and can identify the technical problem-solving activities that qualify. Good luck with your assessment - I'd be curious to hear how it goes!
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Brianna Schmidt
This thread has been incredibly valuable! I'm the operations manager at a small manufacturing company (about 30 employees) and we've also been getting calls from R&D credit firms, though not ABGi specifically. What's really encouraging is seeing the range of activities that actually qualify - we've been doing custom fixture development, modifying our assembly processes to handle new product variants, and spent months last year troubleshooting issues with a new coating system that required extensive testing and adjustments. Reading through these examples, it sounds like a lot of this problem-solving work could qualify as R&D. The documentation concern resonates with me too. We're pretty informal - most of our engineering discussions happen on the shop floor or in quick emails. But based on what others have shared, it sounds like even basic records showing we were solving technical problems rather than just following instructions could support a claim. I'm definitely going to pursue preliminary assessments from multiple providers now. The potential recoveries mentioned here ($80k+) would be significant for a company our size. Even if we only recover half that amount, it would more than justify the time investment and fees. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical insight you can't find in generic online reviews!
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Yuki Nakamura
•Brianna, your situation sounds very similar to what many of us have experienced! The custom fixture development and coating system troubleshooting you mentioned are exactly the types of activities that often qualify but get overlooked. What really helped me was realizing that "research" in the tax credit context isn't about lab coats and beakers - it's about solving technical problems where the solution wasn't obvious upfront. Your months of testing and adjustments with the coating system sounds like a perfect example of iterative development that involved technical uncertainty. For a 30-employee company, even a smaller recovery could be really impactful. I'd encourage you to be thorough when discussing your activities with potential providers - sometimes the projects we think are "routine" actually involved significant technical problem-solving that qualifies. The informal documentation shouldn't hold you back. From what others have shared, even basic email threads showing your team was experimenting with different approaches or troubleshooting technical challenges can support a claim. The key is demonstrating that you were solving problems, not just implementing known solutions. Definitely get those multiple assessments - the differences in approach and fees that people have mentioned here make it worth shopping around. Good luck!
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