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CyberNinja

Why is my self-employment tax so high?! Getting hit with $7500 Federal on $40,000 income as a 1099 contractor?!

I'm freaking out here and hoping someone can explain what's happening. I'm currently trying to file my taxes for this year through one of those free online services. I'm a single self-employed plumber, got 1099 income of about $40k for the year, and the software is saying I owe over $7500 in federal taxes!!! That can't possibly be right, can it?? According to the tax brackets I've looked up, I should only be paying around 12%, which would be less than $5000. What am I missing here? I haven't entered all my business expenses yet, but even with those, this seems completely insane. I've always done my own taxes and never had this problem before. Is the software glitching or something? There's no way I can afford to pay that much. Any help would be seriously appreciated because I'm about to throw my laptop out the window.

Mateo Lopez

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You're getting hit with self-employment taxes on top of your regular income tax. When you're self-employed, you pay both the employee AND employer portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes, which comes to about 15.3% of your net income. That's in addition to your regular income tax. So basically, you're paying: - Regular income tax (10-12% bracket for your income level) - Self-employment tax (15.3%) That's why the total seems so high. The good news is that entering your legitimate business expenses will reduce your net self-employment income, which will lower both your income tax and self-employment tax. Make sure you're deducting things like mileage/vehicle expenses, tools, materials, insurance premiums, phone costs, and any other legitimate business expenses. You might also qualify for the Qualified Business Income deduction, which could reduce your taxable income by up to 20%.

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CyberNinja

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Oh my god, thank you. I had no idea about the self-employment tax being separate! That makes way more sense now. So if I'm understanding correctly, I'm essentially being taxed twice? Once as the "employee" and once as the "employer"? That seems really unfair to small businesses and contractors. Is this why so many people say to put aside 25-30% of income for taxes when self-employed?

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Mateo Lopez

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Yes, you're exactly right. When you work for someone else, your employer pays half of your Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65%), and you pay the other half through withholding. But when you're self-employed, you're both employer and employee, so you pay the full 15.3%. It does seem unfair, but there is a small silver lining - you can deduct the employer portion (half) of your self-employment tax on your tax return. Also, definitely set aside 25-30% of your income throughout the year. Many self-employed people make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid a big bill at tax time and potential underpayment penalties.

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Just FYI, if you're just entering your 1099 income without any expenses, you're definitely doing it wrong. Most self-employed people have legitimate business expenses that significantly reduce their taxable income. Common deductions for a plumber: - Vehicle expenses (mileage or actual expenses) - Tools and equipment - Supplies - Business insurance - Portion of phone bill used for business - Work clothes/uniforms - Professional licenses - Any continuing education - Advertising costs - Software subscriptions - Home office if you have dedicated space Take the time to go through all your expenses for the year. You'd be surprised how much you can reduce your tax bill.

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CyberNinja

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This is really helpful, thank you! I definitely have expenses for tools, my truck, and work clothes that I haven't entered yet. I also pay for my own health insurance which is crazy expensive. Can I deduct that too?

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Yes, health insurance is a big one I forgot to mention! Self-employed people can deduct 100% of their health insurance premiums as an adjustment to income (meaning you get the deduction even if you don't itemize). This includes medical, dental, and vision insurance for yourself, your spouse, and your dependents. The truck expenses will also be significant - you can either deduct the actual expenses (gas, insurance, repairs, depreciation) or take the standard mileage rate for business miles. For most people, tracking mileage and taking the standard rate is easier, but run the numbers both ways if you have a particularly expensive vehicle to maintain.

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Make sure you look into quarterly estimated tax payments for next year. I learned this the hard way too as a self-employed person. If you wait until April to pay your full tax bill when you're self-employed, you might get hit with underpayment penalties. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn throughout the year, just like withholding from a regular paycheck. Has anyone here used any apps for tracking expenses? I'm terrible at keeping receipts and always scrambling at tax time.

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Mei Wong

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I use Quickbooks Self-Employed and it's been a lifesaver. It connects to your bank accounts/credit cards and automatically categorizes expenses. You can also track mileage with the app. Around $15/month but worth every penny for the headache it saves.

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