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Who gets the tax refund after someone dies? Tax refund for deceased person questions

My mom passed away unexpectedly in June 2024, and my dad had died about 8 months before in October 2023. Mom had already started filing their joint tax return with their accountant when she died. From what the tax preparer told me, there's going to be a pretty big refund coming (around $6,800). The accountant mentioned I could just roll this over toward next year's taxes. The refund was issued after her death when I sent in the remaining paperwork to complete their return. Now my stepbrother (who has a separate trust from my dad's previous marriage) is asking questions about this refund. He uses the same accountant, and I'm worried they might tell him I decided to have the IRS hold onto the refund amount for my mom's 2024 taxes. Does my stepbrother have any legal right to claim part of this refund from their joint return? I'm not sure what the rules are when both taxpayers are deceased.

When it comes to tax refunds for deceased individuals, the rules can be a bit complex but there's a clear process. Since both your parents have passed away, the refund technically belongs to their estate(s), not automatically to any heir. For joint returns, the refund is considered joint property in most states. Since your mom died after your dad, the refund would typically flow to her estate first. You would need to file Form 1310 "Statement of Person Claiming Refund Due a Deceased Taxpayer" to claim the refund on behalf of the estate, rather than rolling it over to next year (which isn't actually possible for deceased taxpayers). The refund should be distributed according to the terms of your mom's will or trust, or according to state intestacy laws if there wasn't a will. If your stepbrother is entitled to a portion of her estate assets based on these documents, then yes, he might have a legal claim to part of the refund.

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Thanks for explaining this. I'm the executor of mom's estate but haven't filed that Form 1310 yet - didn't even know about it. Does the accountant not handle this? And what do you mean it's not possible to roll over the refund? The accountant specifically suggested that.

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The tax preparer should have advised you about Form 1310, as it's specifically designed for this situation. While accountants prepare returns, executors are ultimately responsible for filing the appropriate forms. Some tax preparers might not be fully versed in estate matters. Regarding the rollover suggestion, this is actually incorrect advice. You cannot "save" a refund for a future year's taxes when the taxpayer is deceased. The IRS doesn't maintain accounts for deceased individuals for future tax years. The refund must be claimed by the estate and distributed according to the estate plan or applicable laws.

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Did they help with figuring out how to distribute the refund between heirs? My parents died within months of each other and there's a big refund but my sister thinks she deserves more of it because she was the caregiver.

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How long did it take them to analyze everything? My dad died in February and we're still waiting on his refund but the IRS keeps saying they need more documents. His situation was complicated because he had rental properties.

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They don't give legal advice about how to split assets between heirs - that's more of an estate attorney question. What they do is clarify who legally has rights to the money according to tax law, which you can then use to have an informed conversation with your sister. They were surprisingly quick with the document analysis - I uploaded everything in the evening and had detailed explanations by the next morning. For complicated situations with rental properties, they actually specialize in identifying which income streams need to be reported on a final return versus what continues through the estate. That distinction often causes delays with the IRS.

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I was totally wrong about Claimyr! After posting my skeptical comment, I was desperate enough to try it when the IRS sent a notice asking for more documentation about my deceased husband's refund. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes! The agent explained that since we had filed jointly and I was the surviving spouse, I needed to complete Form 1310 and check Box A. She also confirmed that stepchildren have no automatic right to the refund unless they're named beneficiaries in the will or estate plan. Worth every penny just to get a straight answer from an actual IRS employee instead of guessing.

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Something important nobody's mentioned yet - if your stepbrother is a beneficiary of your mom's estate (not just your dad's trust), then yes, he might have a claim to a portion of the refund based on how the estate is divided. But if he's only connected through your dad and isn't named in your mom's will, then typically he wouldn't have a direct claim to the joint refund that passed to your mom's estate after your dad died. I'd recommend checking the actual terms of both parents' wills/trusts to see if there's specific language about tax refunds or residual estate assets. This is definitely a situation where a quick consultation with an estate attorney would be worth it.

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This is a good point. Also, doesn't it matter which state they live in? I think community property states handle this differently than other states.

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Yes, the state of residence is extremely important in this situation. In community property states (Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin), the refund from a joint return is typically considered equal property of both spouses. In non-community property states, the refund is generally allocated based on each person's income, withholding, and credits. So if the dad contributed 70% of the income and withholding that led to the refund, his estate would be entitled to roughly 70% of that refund, which would then flow according to his estate plan.

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Wait I'm confused... if the tax preparer told you that you could leave the refund for next year's taxes, how would that even work? Both taxpayers are deceased so there wouldn't be a "next year's return" for them, right? Did the preparer mean YOU could apply the refund to YOUR taxes? Because that's definitely not how it works - a refund due to a deceased person belongs to their estate, not automatically to any particular heir.

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I think the tax preparer was just wrong. Or maybe they meant the estate's taxes for next year? Estates have to file tax returns too (Form 1041) if they generate income over certain thresholds.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - my father passed away in March 2024 and we're still waiting on his refund. One thing I learned from the estate attorney is that you absolutely need to keep detailed records of who contributed what to the household expenses and income, especially if there are multiple potential heirs involved. The IRS has a specific process for deceased taxpayer refunds, and it's worth noting that they often take longer to process these cases because they require additional verification. In my experience, they wanted copies of the death certificate, letters testamentary showing I was the executor, and Form 1310 as others mentioned. Regarding your stepbrother's potential claim - this really depends on whether he's mentioned in your mom's will or if your state's intestacy laws would give him any rights to her estate. Since the refund technically belongs to the last surviving spouse's estate (your mom in this case), his claim would have to come through her estate documents, not your dad's separate trust. I'd strongly recommend getting a consultation with an estate attorney before making any decisions about the refund distribution. The $6,800 is significant enough that it's worth getting proper legal guidance to avoid family conflicts later.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with estate matters and didn't realize how complicated tax refunds could get when someone dies. Quick question - you mentioned keeping records of who contributed to household expenses and income. Does this mean the IRS might split the refund based on each person's actual contribution rather than just 50/50? And how long did it take for your father's refund to be processed once you submitted all the required documents? I'm trying to set expectations for my own timeline.

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Great question! Yes, the IRS can potentially split refunds based on actual contributions rather than 50/50, especially in non-community property states. They look at factors like who earned the income, who had taxes withheld from their paychecks, and who made estimated tax payments. This is why keeping those records is so important - it can make a real difference in how the refund gets allocated between the two estates. As for timing, I submitted all my documents (Form 1310, death certificate, letters testamentary) in early May, and I just received the refund check last week - so about 5 months total. The IRS told me that deceased taxpayer refunds typically take 16-20 weeks to process, which was pretty accurate in my case. They did send one letter asking for additional documentation about 3 months in, which added some time. One tip: make sure you send everything certified mail with return receipt. The IRS processing centers can be slow to update their systems, and having proof of delivery helps if you need to follow up on the status.

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I'm sorry for your loss - dealing with tax issues on top of grieving is incredibly difficult. Based on what you've described, there are a few red flags with your tax preparer's advice that you should address immediately. First, you cannot "roll over" a refund to next year's taxes for deceased taxpayers. The IRS doesn't maintain accounts for people who have passed away. This suggests your accountant may not be experienced with estate tax matters, which is concerning given the complexity of your situation. Since both parents are deceased and this was a joint return, the refund belongs to your mother's estate (as the surviving spouse). You'll need to file Form 1310 to claim it properly. Your stepbrother's rights to any portion would depend entirely on whether he's named in your mother's will or trust - his connection through your father's separate trust doesn't automatically give him claims to your mother's estate assets. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from either an estate attorney or a CPA who specializes in deceased taxpayer returns. The $6,800 is significant enough to warrant proper handling, and you want to make sure you're following the correct legal process to avoid complications later. Don't let the current accountant handle this further until you've verified they understand the proper procedures for deceased taxpayer refunds.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I wish I had when I first started navigating estate tax issues! You're absolutely right about getting a second opinion - I learned the hard way that not all accountants are equipped to handle deceased taxpayer situations properly. One thing I'd add is that when you're looking for that CPA or estate attorney, specifically ask about their experience with Form 1310 and deceased taxpayer refunds. Some will be honest about their limitations, while others might try to wing it. Given that your stepbrother is already asking questions, having the proper documentation and legal backing from the start will save you potential headaches down the road. Also, keep detailed records of all communications with the current accountant about their "rollover" advice - if there are any issues later, you'll want documentation that you were given incorrect guidance. This could be important for liability purposes if complications arise.

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I'm so sorry for the loss of both your parents - that's an incredibly difficult situation to navigate while also dealing with complex tax issues. Based on what you've shared, there are several concerning aspects to your tax preparer's advice. The suggestion to "roll over" the refund to next year is fundamentally incorrect for deceased taxpayers. Once someone passes away, the IRS doesn't maintain ongoing tax accounts for them, so there's no mechanism to carry forward a refund to future tax years that won't exist. The $6,800 refund from your parents' joint return legally belongs to your mother's estate since she was the surviving spouse. To properly claim this refund, you'll need to file Form 1310 as the estate executor. Your stepbrother's potential claim would depend entirely on whether he's named as a beneficiary in your mother's will or estate planning documents - his rights through your father's separate trust don't automatically extend to your mother's estate assets. Given the significant amount involved and the family dynamics at play, I'd strongly recommend consulting with an estate attorney or a CPA who specializes in deceased taxpayer returns before proceeding. You want to ensure you're following the proper legal procedures and protecting yourself from any future disputes. The current accountant's advice suggests they may not have sufficient experience with estate tax matters, which could create problems down the line.

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This is really solid advice, and I appreciate how you've broken down the key issues so clearly. The point about the accountant's incorrect "rollover" suggestion is particularly important - it makes me wonder what other aspects of estate tax law they might not fully understand. I'm curious about the timeline for filing Form 1310. Is there a deadline for claiming refunds for deceased taxpayers? Also, given that the stepbrother is already asking questions and uses the same accountant, would it be wise to notify the accountant in writing that they should not be discussing the estate's tax matters with anyone other than the authorized executor? It seems like there could be confidentiality issues there that might complicate things further. The family dynamics aspect you mentioned is so important - even if the stepbrother has no legal claim to the refund, having proper documentation and following the correct procedures will help avoid unnecessary conflicts during an already difficult time.

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I'm really sorry for the loss of both your parents so close together - that must be incredibly overwhelming to deal with while also trying to navigate these complex tax and estate issues. Based on what you've described, your tax preparer has given you some fundamentally incorrect advice that could create serious problems. You absolutely cannot "roll over" a tax refund for deceased taxpayers to future years because the IRS doesn't maintain accounts for people who have passed away. This is a major red flag that suggests your accountant may not have adequate experience with deceased taxpayer situations. Here's what you need to know: The $6,800 refund from your parents' joint return legally belongs to your mother's estate since she was the last surviving spouse. To claim it properly, you'll need to file Form 1310 (Statement of Person Claiming Refund Due a Deceased Taxpayer) along with supporting documentation like the death certificate and proof that you're the authorized executor. Regarding your stepbrother's potential claim - this depends entirely on whether he's named as a beneficiary in your mother's will or estate documents. His connection through your father's separate trust doesn't automatically give him rights to assets from your mother's estate. However, given that he's asking questions and uses the same accountant, I'd be concerned about potential confidentiality issues and would recommend notifying the accountant in writing that estate tax matters should only be discussed with you as the executor. I'd strongly suggest getting a consultation with an estate attorney or CPA who specializes in deceased taxpayer returns before proceeding further. The amount is significant enough to warrant proper legal guidance, and you want to protect yourself from family disputes while ensuring you follow the correct IRS procedures.

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This is incredibly helpful and comprehensive advice - thank you for breaking down all the key issues so clearly! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation with my grandmother's estate, so this thread has been really educational. One question I have about the Form 1310 process - do you know if there are any time limits for filing it? My grandmother passed away last year and we're just now getting around to dealing with her tax refund because the family situation was complicated. Also, the point about notifying the accountant in writing about confidentiality is really smart - I hadn't thought about that aspect but it makes complete sense, especially when there are potential disputes brewing. The advice about getting a second opinion from an estate specialist is spot on. It sounds like the current accountant's "rollover" suggestion shows they're not equipped to handle these complex situations properly, which could create bigger problems down the line.

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