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Aria Park

IRS requesting Form 1310 for 2018 tax year - what to do after both taxpayers have died?

My stepmom passed away in February 2018, and my dad and her had filed jointly that year. Dad never dealt with any formal probate process as far as I know when she died. Then last summer (2022), my dad also passed away. I've already handled his final tax return and paid what he owed to the IRS, but didn't go through formal probate for his estate either. Now I've received this letter from the IRS saying Form 1310 needs to be filed for the 2018 tax year where dad received a refund from the jointly filed taxes with my stepmom. I'm confused because my understanding is that dad would have needed to sign it as representative for both himself and his wife? But now that he's gone too, who's supposed to fill this out? Does it fall to me since I'm basically handling my dad's affairs? I reached out to my dad's accountant who's been doing his taxes for years last week, but haven't gotten a response yet. The CPA is in Florida where dad and stepmom lived, and I'm in Michigan, so I can't just drop by the office. This whole situation is so frustrating. Any advice would be really appreciated!

Noah Ali

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This is actually a common situation when dealing with deceased taxpayers and refunds. Form 1310 is a "Statement of Person Claiming Refund Due a Deceased Taxpayer" and since both taxpayers are now deceased, you as the person handling your father's affairs would indeed be the one to file this form. Since your father was entitled to the refund after your stepmother passed, and now you're essentially functioning as the representative of your father's estate (even without formal probate), you should complete the Form 1310. You'll want to check Box A in Part I which indicates you're the appointed representative of the estate. Even without formal probate, as the person handling his affairs, you qualify under this designation. Make sure to include a copy of the IRS letter and a brief explanation noting both deaths and your relationship to the deceased taxpayers. Also include copies of both death certificates if you have them.

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Aria Park

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Thanks for the detailed response! I was wondering though - if I check Box A stating I'm the appointed representative, don't I need some kind of legal document proving that? I don't have anything official since we skipped probate. Would checking Box C (for "other") be more appropriate in my situation?

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Noah Ali

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You're right to be concerned about the documentation. If you don't have formal appointment documents, checking Box C might indeed be more appropriate. Under Box C, you're claiming the refund as a person who has paid the funeral expenses or who is responsible for paying the decedent's expenses (like final bills, estate administration, etc.). When you submit the form with Box C checked, include a brief statement explaining that you handled your father's final tax obligations and are responsible for settling his remaining affairs. Include both death certificates and any documentation showing you've handled other aspects of your father's estate (paid final bills, etc.).

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Did you have to provide them with the death certificates? I'm in a similar situation but with my grandparents, and I'm trying to avoid sending original death certificates to too many places.

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Drake

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Just to add to the conversation - I'm a financial advisor and have had several clients in this exact situation. One important thing to remember is to include a cover letter explaining both deaths and the timeline. Specifically mention that you're filing Form 1310 for a refund that was originally due to your father, who had filed jointly with his wife who predeceased him. Also, keep a copy of EVERYTHING you send to the IRS. I've seen cases where things get lost in their system and having documentation of what you submitted and when can save enormous headaches down the road.

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Aria Park

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Thank you for the advice! Do you happen to know approximately how long this process typically takes? The IRS letter mentions a deadline for responding but doesn't indicate how long I should expect to wait for resolution.

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Drake

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Current processing times for Form 1310 are running about 12-16 weeks from the date the IRS receives it. However, that's assuming everything is filled out correctly the first time. If there are any questions or issues, it can take significantly longer. The deadline in the letter is just for submitting the form and required documentation - make sure you meet that deadline even if you have to send it with some information pending. You can always follow up with additional documentation. I recommend sending it certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of timely filing.

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Sarah Jones

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A piece of advice no one has mentioned yet - if your father and stepmom lived in a community property state (Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, or Wisconsin), the handling of this might be slightly different. In community property states, each spouse automatically owns half of the assets acquired during marriage. This could affect how the refund is treated and who has rights to it. Might be worth mentioning to whatever tax professional you end up working with.

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This is really important! My parents lived in California and when my mom died, the community property laws made dealing with the IRS much more straightforward. The refund was automatically considered 50% my dad's property regardless of whose income generated it.

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I'm so sorry for your losses, Aria. Dealing with tax issues while grieving is incredibly difficult. From what I understand about your situation, since you're already handling your father's affairs and have dealt with his final tax return, you're in the right position to file Form 1310. One thing I'd suggest is calling the IRS directly to confirm the specifics of your case before filing. I know their phone lines are notoriously difficult to get through, but getting verbal confirmation from an agent about which box to check and what documentation they need can prevent delays or rejections later. Also, make sure to send everything via certified mail with tracking. The IRS has been having significant processing delays, and having proof of delivery and timing can be crucial if there are any questions later about meeting their deadline. Keep trying to reach your dad's CPA too - they may have insights about the original 2018 filing that could be helpful in completing Form 1310 correctly.

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