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One thing no one's mentioned - report the preparer! If they're filing fraudulent returns, they're doing it to other people too. You can file Form 14157 (Complaint: Tax Return Preparer) with the IRS. If you suspect your refund was inflated through fraud, also file Form 14157-A. The IRS takes preparer fraud seriously because it affects their whole system.
Does reporting actually do anything? I've heard the IRS is so backed up they never investigate these complaints.
They absolutely do investigate preparer fraud, especially when multiple people report the same preparer. The IRS has a dedicated office for this because preparers filing fraudulent returns is a huge problem that costs them billions. They don't have resources to go after every small discrepancy, but preparer fraud is one of their priority areas. I know someone who works for the IRS, and they said these reports definitely get reviewed, but it can take time. The more documentation you provide with your complaint, the more likely they'll act on it quickly.
I'm a seasonal preparer and just want to point out that sometimes legitimate preparers DO find deductions/credits that people miss when they self-prepare. Before assuming fraud, check if: 1) You might have qualified for EIC you didn't know about 2) Your education expenses qualified for American Opportunity Credit 3) You had self-employment deductions you didn't realize were valid 4) Your filing status changed in a beneficial way Not all big refunds are fraud - sometimes it's just expertise! Ask your preparer to walk through each deduction with you.
This is an important point. Last year when I switched to a preparer after doing my own taxes for years, they found over $4k in refunds I had missed by not knowing about the Child and Dependent Care Credit that applied to my situation. I thought they were committing fraud until they showed me exactly where in the tax code I qualified. Legitimate preparers should always be willing to explain.
Thanks for bringing this up! I did get a copy of my return and I'm seeing some business expenses I don't recognize on a Schedule C. The thing is, my 1099-NEC was just for picking up serving shifts at a restaurant - not running my own business. She claimed nearly $12k in "business expenses" against that income. When I asked about it, she just said "that's how you maximize your return, don't worry about it." Seems sketchy.
I went through this exact process last month. Complete the verification first. Your amendment won't move forward until you do. It took me 20 minutes to verify online. Then my amendment started processing within 48 hours. Don't panic about the timing - this is normal procedure for independent contractors with amended returns.
I'm going through something similar right now! Filed my amendment three weeks ago after realizing I forgot to include some 1099-NEC income from a side gig. The verification request showed up about 10 days later. From what I've learned lurking in this community, it's totally normal - the IRS has ramped up identity verification especially for amended returns involving unreported income. I completed the online verification yesterday (had to answer questions about my previous addresses and loan amounts), and my transcript already shows the verification was accepted. The whole process was actually smoother than I expected once I stopped worrying about it. Just make sure you have your prior year tax info handy when you do the verification - some of the questions reference old returns.
ask him to explain EXACTLY what deductions or credits he's planning to use that turbotax isn't giving you. if he can't explain it clearly or gets defensive, run away!!!! my cousin's tax guy did this last year, claimed a bunch of fake business expenses and education credits she didnt qualify for. she ended up getting audited and had to pay back $4200 plus penalties!!!
this is so true! i used to work at a tax office (not saying which one lol) and some preparers would just make up business expenses or claim random credits to get bigger refunds and more clients. they knew most people never get audited so they played the odds. totally unethical but happens ALL THE TIME especially with earned income credit.
This sounds like a classic case of a preparer who's going to claim deductions you don't qualify for. The jump from $1,450 to $3,200+ for a straightforward W-2 + side gig situation is a huge red flag. Here's what I'd recommend: Before you give this guy any documents, ask him to write down exactly which deductions or credits he plans to claim that TurboTax missed. If he mentions anything about business expenses for your W-2 job, home office deductions you don't qualify for, or education credits you're not eligible for - walk away immediately. The "knows all the tricks" line is what every shady preparer says. Legitimate tax professionals explain their strategies clearly because they're following actual tax law, not trying to game the system. Remember, even if this guy prepares your return, YOU are the one who signs it and YOU are responsible if the IRS comes after you for improper deductions. The extra $1,750 he's promising could easily turn into thousands in penalties and interest if you get audited. Trust your gut - if it feels too good to be true, it probably is. Stick with reputable software or find a CPA who will explain their work transparently.
Has anyone dealt with dissolving an S-Corp that had PPP loans or EIDL during covid? We got both and I'm not sure if that affects the dissolution process at all.
I dissolved my S-Corp last year after receiving both PPP and EIDL. For PPP, as long as your loan was forgiven before dissolution, there shouldn't be any issues. You'll just need documentation of the forgiveness. With EIDL it's different - those typically need to be repaid. You'll either need to pay it off before dissolution or reach an agreement with the SBA. In my case, I had to personally assume the EIDL loan as part of the dissolution plan. Took some paperwork but wasn't too complicated.
I went through S-Corp dissolution in Texas last year and want to echo what others have said - your accountant's advice is incorrect on both counts. You can dissolve an S-Corp at any time during the year, not just at year-end. And you absolutely cannot skip quarterly filings just because you're planning to dissolve. Here's what I learned the hard way: even if you're losing money, you may still have employment tax obligations (payroll taxes, unemployment insurance) that continue until the business is officially closed. Missing these can result in penalties that accrue daily. The dissolution process itself took me about 10 weeks from start to finish. I had to file with both the state and IRS, settle all outstanding obligations, and issue final K-1s to shareholders. The final tax return covered the period from January 1 to the dissolution date. One thing that caught me off guard was that even though we had losses, there were still some tax implications when we distributed the remaining assets (mostly office equipment) to shareholders. Make sure you understand the tax consequences before you start the process. My advice would be to get a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in business dissolution, or use one of the resources others have mentioned to get proper guidance. Don't let this drag on - the sooner you start the proper process, the sooner you'll be done with all the filing requirements.
Noah Torres
Anyone know which specific IRS form I should fill out to dispute this kind of adjustment? The "math error" notice feels so vague and I want to make sure I'm using the right form when I respond.
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Samantha Hall
ā¢For a math error correction, you don't need a specific form. Just write a letter explaining why you disagree with their adjustment and reference the notice number (should be CP11 or CP12 for these kinds of adjustments). Make sure to include copies of any supporting documents. If it's been more than 60 days since the notice, you might need to file Form 1040X to amend your return. But start with a simple letter if you're still within the 60-day window.
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Marcelle Drum
I went through something very similar last year and it turned out to be a simple mistake on my part with the Child Tax Credit calculation. The $216 difference you're seeing is actually pretty common - it's usually either a credit that was miscalculated or a deduction that doesn't match what the IRS has on file. Here's what I'd suggest: First, look at your original return and compare line by line with what's on your transcript. Pay special attention to any credits you claimed (Earned Income Credit, Child Tax Credit, Education Credits, etc.) since those are the most common sources of these discrepancies. The good news is that if you can prove your calculation was correct, you can get that $272 back. Just make sure to respond within the 60-day window mentioned in your notice. I ended up owing less than what the IRS initially said after I provided the right documentation. Also, keep in mind that sometimes these "corrections" are actually wrong on the IRS side - they're not infallible. Don't just accept it without double-checking your work first.
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