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Who is entitled to the tax refund of a deceased person? Tax refund after death question

My mom passed away in June 2023 and my dad died just recently in April 2024. Dad had filed a joint return for 2023 and there's a pretty big tax refund (around $8,200) that our tax guy said could be applied to next year's taxes. The refund was issued after dad's death when the tax return was finally processed. I had to submit some additional paperwork to get everything finalized. My stepsister (who's part of a different family trust) is now asking questions about this refund. She uses the same tax preparer and I think they might have mentioned to her that I chose to have the IRS hold onto the refund amount for my dad's 2024 taxes. I'm wondering if my stepsister has any legal claim to part of this refund from the joint return? Not sure how this works with deceased taxpayers, especially when both are now gone.

When both taxpayers on a joint return are deceased, the tax refund becomes part of the estate of the last person to die - in this case, your father. The refund should be distributed according to your father's will or trust, or if there isn't one, according to your state's intestacy laws. The fact that it was a joint return with your mother doesn't automatically give your stepsister a right to any portion unless she's named as a beneficiary in your father's estate documents. However, if your father and stepmother had an agreement about how their assets would be divided upon death (like in a prenuptial or estate planning document), that could potentially impact how the refund should be distributed. Since you're acting as the executor or administrator of your father's estate, you should consult with an estate attorney to determine the proper distribution of all assets, including this tax refund. Don't make any decisions about applying it to next year's taxes until you've confirmed the proper legal handling.

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What if there's no will and the estate is going through probate? Does the refund just get added to the estate's assets then? And who would file the final tax return for someone who died - the executor?

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If there's no will, the refund would indeed become part of the estate's assets to be distributed according to your state's intestacy laws during probate. The court-appointed administrator would be responsible for ensuring proper distribution. The final tax return for a deceased person should be filed by the executor or administrator of the estate. This return covers the period from the beginning of the tax year up to the date of death. The filing deadline is the same as it would have been if the person had lived - generally April 15th of the following year. The executor should write "DECEASED" at the top of the return along with the date of death.

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Are you sure about Form 1310? I thought that was only if you're requesting the refund check be sent to someone other than the deceased. If the refund is just going to be applied to next year's taxes, would you still need that form?

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I'm an accountant and deal with deceased taxpayer issues quite frequently. Here's what you need to know: 1. The refund becomes part of the estate of the last person to die (your father) 2. As executor, you need to decide whether to apply it to next year or request it now 3. If requesting it now, you'll need Form 1310 4. Your stepsister only has a claim if she's a beneficiary of your father's estate The most important thing is to check your father's will or trust documents. If your father and stepmother had a trust or agreement that specified how their assets would be divided between their respective families after both died, then that would control how the refund is handled. Also, applying the refund to next year's taxes might not be the best idea if you're trying to close the estate. Talk to your tax preparer about the pros and cons of that decision.

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Thank you for this clear breakdown. We do have a trust but I need to review it again to see if there's anything specific about tax refunds or how joint assets should be divided. My dad and stepmom did have a prenup but I don't think it addressed this specific situation. I'm starting to think applying it to next year's taxes wasn't the best move if I'm trying to close out everything. I'll talk to the tax preparer about possibly changing that decision and requesting the refund now. Would the refund be considered income to whoever receives it, or is it non-taxable since it's just returning over-withheld taxes?

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The refund itself is not considered taxable income to the beneficiaries who ultimately receive it. It's simply a return of money that was over-withheld during the tax year - the government is just giving back what was already your father's money. However, if the refund sits in an estate account earning interest before distribution, that interest would be taxable income to the estate or to the beneficiaries, depending on how and when it's distributed. This is why it's generally better to request and distribute refunds promptly rather than letting them roll forward, especially when you're trying to close an estate.

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I'm confused about something. If the mom died in 2021 and the dad died in 2022, how were they filing a joint return? I thought you could only file jointly if both spouses were alive at the end of the tax year?

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You can actually file a joint return in the year one spouse dies. The surviving spouse can file jointly for that tax year, indicating "deceased" next to the deceased spouse's name. It's called a "surviving spouse" filing status. But you're right that they couldn't file jointly for 2022 if the mom died in 2021, unless I'm misunderstanding something about the original post.

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Just to clarify the timeline - the original post mentions mom died in June 2023 and dad died in April 2024. Dad filed a joint return for 2023, which is completely valid since mom was alive for part of that tax year. When one spouse dies during the tax year, the surviving spouse can still file a joint return for that year. The confusion might be coming from misreading the dates. Since dad filed the 2023 joint return after mom's death but before his own death in 2024, everything follows normal tax rules. The refund is now part of dad's estate since he was the last surviving taxpayer on that return. @f0a5c9e0aa63 - You should definitely review that trust document carefully. Even if it doesn't specifically mention tax refunds, it might have language about how "income" or "assets" from joint accounts or filings should be distributed between the families. This could impact whether your stepsister has any claim to the refund.

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Thanks for clarifying the timeline - I was getting confused by all the different dates mentioned in the thread. That makes much more sense now about the joint filing being valid. One thing I'm wondering about is whether the tax preparer should have advised differently about applying the refund to 2024 taxes versus requesting it immediately for estate distribution. It seems like from what everyone is saying here, requesting it now might be the better approach for closing out the estate properly. @f0a5c9e0aa63 Have you considered getting a second opinion from another tax professional who specializes in estate tax matters? It sounds like this situation might be more complex than your current preparer initially realized, especially with the trust and potential family claims involved.

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