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Anastasia Sokolov

Need advice on Trust, Capital Gains and Step-up Basis after parent's death

Hey everyone, could use some guidance on a complex tax situation after my mom passed away recently. I'm using a throwaway account since this involves family finances. Mom had a pour over will and trust, naming my four siblings and me as beneficiaries. My brother is the designated trustee. After she passed, the trustee sold her house and stock portfolio within a couple months. Here's where I'm confused about the tax situation: - The stocks were sold for around $340,000 with federal taxes withheld (about $67,500) - They didn't claim any step-up in basis and paid taxes on the entire amount - For the house, they claimed a step-up basis with a profit of only about $4,000 - Mom's pension and IRA came to roughly $67,500 in taxable income for her final year (not counting anything sold after death) I have so many questions: - Where should these sales be reported? - Is this considered my deceased mom's income? - Is it considered trust income? - Should the trust owe taxes on the entire amount or just on gains after a step-up basis? - Shouldn't the stocks have received a step-up basis when transferred to the trust? Do I need to consult an estate tax lawyer? Has anyone dealt with something similar? Any advice would be really appreciated.

Sean O'Connor

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I've worked with numerous estates, and this situation needs careful handling. The treatment depends on when assets were transferred to the trust. For assets properly transferred to a revocable living trust during your mother's lifetime, they're still considered part of her estate for tax purposes. At death, these assets typically receive a "step-up in basis" to fair market value on date of death. This means capital gains taxes would only apply to appreciation that occurs after death. The stocks should have received a step-up in basis before being sold. If they didn't claim this, the trust potentially paid significantly more in taxes than necessary. The house appears to have been handled correctly with the step-up basis. As for reporting: Final income during your mother's life (pension, IRA distributions before death) belongs on her final personal tax return (1040). Income generated after death (including capital gains from selling assets) would typically be reported on the trust's tax return (Form 1041).

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Zara Ahmed

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. But I'm a bit confused about the step-up basis for stocks. Does it matter if the stocks were transferred to the trust before or after death? And if the stocks were already in the trust when she died, would they still get a step-up? Also, if too much tax was paid because they didn't claim step-up basis, is there any way to fix that now?

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Sean O'Connor

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For a typical revocable living trust, assets held in the trust at death still receive the step-up in basis. The IRS treats assets in a revocable trust as if they were owned directly by the decedent. So yes, stocks already in the trust at death would still qualify for the step-up. If too much tax was paid, you generally have three years from the filing date to amend the return. The trustee should consult with a tax professional about filing an amended trust tax return (Form 1041X) to claim the proper step-up basis. This could result in a significant refund given the amounts involved.

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Luca Conti

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Mateo Lopez

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Yuki Tanaka

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As someone who just went through this with my father's estate, I strongly recommend having the trustee consult with an estate tax attorney ASAP. The issue of step-up basis for stocks is huge and could mean tens of thousands in overpaid taxes. Assets in a revocable living trust generally receive a step-up in basis to fair market value as of the date of death. This means the "cost basis" of stocks becomes whatever they were worth on the day your mother died, NOT what she originally paid for them. If the trustee sold stocks without applying this step-up, they essentially paid capital gains tax on decades of appreciation that should have been tax-free. The good news is that you can generally amend returns within 3 years of filing to correct this.

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Thanks for your insight. The trustee hasn't been very communicative about the tax details. Is this something I can pursue myself as a beneficiary, or does it have to be initiated by the trustee? I'm worried because my brother (the trustee) doesn't seem to understand the tax implications here.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Unfortunately, only the trustee has the legal authority to file amended tax returns for the trust. As a beneficiary, your best approach is to formally document your concerns in writing to the trustee, possibly with information from a tax professional explaining the step-up basis rules. If the trustee is unresponsive or unwilling to correct potential errors, you might need to consult with an estate attorney about your rights as a beneficiary. Trustees have a fiduciary duty to manage the trust properly, which includes not overpaying taxes. A letter from an attorney explaining this fiduciary duty might motivate them to take appropriate action. Given the potential tax overpayment amount, this is definitely worth pursuing.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Just a heads up based on my experience - if the stocks were held in a trust before your mom's death, but it was a irrevocable trust (not the typical revocable living trust), the step-up rules might be different. Most pour-over wills work with revocable living trusts, but it's worth confirming. We had a complicated situation where my grandma had created an irrevocable trust years before her death, and those assets didn't qualify for the same step-up in basis. Caused a lot of confusion when we were settling her estate.

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MidnightRider

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Thats a really important point about irrevocable vs revocable trusts! My family learned this the hard way. Worth checking the trust documents carefully to confirm what type of trust it was. The tax conseqeunces are huge.

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