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When is the deadline for Solo 401k Pre-Tax Deferral Contributions in a Solo S-Corp?

I've been driving myself crazy for months trying to get a straight answer on Solo 401k contribution deadlines for my S-Corp, and I keep getting conflicting information from different sources. Here's my situation: For 2024, I'm the only employee of my S-Corp with a $135k W-2 salary. Box 1 will show about $104k as taxable wages after deductions. For my Solo 401k plan, I want to make: - Employee Deferral = $22,500 - Employer Profit Sharing = $27,000 My big question is: **When the heck is the actual deadline to fund the Employee pre-tax deferral contribution? Is it 12/31/24, 1/31/25, or can I wait until the due date of my tax return (including extensions)?** I personally believe it's not due until tax return filing (including extensions). Yeah, I understand it's technically a payroll deduction that *should* be funded by year-end, but I can't find any clear IRS guidance saying it would be disallowed if funded later. Publication 560 clearly states: "Elective deferral: Due date of employer's return (including extensions).*" But then there's that asterisk with a note about "Certain plans subject to Department of Labor (DOL) rules may have an earlier due date for salary reduction contributions and elective deferrals, such as 401(k) plans." What's the definitive answer here? Does anyone have solid experience with this specific situation?

Amara Torres

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The deadline question for Solo 401k contributions can be confusing because there are different deadlines for different types of contributions. For a Solo 401k in an S-Corp situation like yours, here's the breakdown: For employee elective deferrals (the $22,500 you mentioned), these technically need to be withheld from your salary before December 31, 2024. This is because they're considered salary deferral contributions that must be based on compensation earned during the calendar year. The actual deposit deadline is somewhat flexible, but the election to defer must be made before year-end. For employer profit sharing contributions (your $27,000), you have until the filing deadline of your S-Corp return including extensions. So that could be as late as September or October 2025 depending on when you file. The confusion often stems from the fact that for self-employed individuals with Schedule C income (not S-Corps), the lines can blur since you're both employer and employee. But in an S-Corp structure, the distinction matters more.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation, but I'm still confused about one thing. If I've already designated in my payroll system that I'm contributing $22,500 to my 401k for 2024, but haven't actually transferred the money to my 401k account yet, am I still good as long as I make the actual contribution before filing my taxes? Or does the money physically need to be in the 401k account by Dec 31, 2024? My payroll records show the deduction, but the cash is still sitting in my business account.

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Amara Torres

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The election to defer must be made before the end of the calendar year, which it sounds like you've done by designating it in your payroll system. However, there's an important distinction between making the election and actually transferring the funds. For the actual deposit of employee deferrals, Department of Labor rules technically require these contributions to be transferred to the plan "as soon as administratively feasible" after being withheld from wages. For small businesses, this is generally interpreted as within 7 business days. However, for a solo 401k where you're the only participant, there's often more flexibility since you're not holding someone else's money. If you've properly recorded the deferrals in your payroll and accounting records but haven't transferred the funds, you should make the actual contribution as soon as possible. Waiting until tax filing time could potentially cause issues if you were ever audited, as it doesn't meet the "as soon as administratively feasible" standard.

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Former payroll specialist here. The confusion about Solo 401k deadlines comes from the mixing of two different sets of rules: IRS tax regulations and Department of Labor ERISA regulations. Here's the simplest breakdown: 1. The ELECTION to defer salary must be made before the end of the calendar year (Dec 31) 2. For regular multi-participant 401ks, DOL rules require deposits "as soon as reasonably segregable" (usually 7-15 days after payroll) 3. For TRUE solo 401ks (only you and maybe spouse), the DOL has a non-enforcement policy that gives more flexibility The key is documenting your deferral election in your payroll records before year-end. Your W-2 should reflect the reduced Box 1 wages showing the deferral happened on paper in 2024. The actual deposit timing has more flexibility than most people realize, but best practice is still to get it done ASAP rather than pushing it to the filing deadline.

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This is really helpful, thanks! One question - what's the best way to document the deferral election if I'm doing my own payroll through QuickBooks? Is there a specific form I should complete, or is having the payroll records showing the reduced wages enough documentation?

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The best documentation is to have a written salary reduction agreement that you complete before the end of the year. This can be a simple form that states you elect to defer X amount or X percentage of your salary into the 401k. Having the payroll records in QuickBooks showing the reduced wages is good supporting documentation, but having that formal election form is better protection in case of audit. Many 401k providers offer a template you can use, or you can create your own simple document that states your election amount, the effective date, and has your signature. Keep this with your plan documents.

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Grace Lee

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One thing nobody has mentioned: make absolutely sure your Solo 401k plan DOCUMENT allows for the flexibility you're trying to use. Some plan documents specifically require deferrals to be deposited within a certain timeframe after being withheld. I learned this the hard way last year when I assumed I had until my tax filing deadline, but my specific plan document (from a major provider) required deferrals to be deposited within 30 days of the end of the month in which they were withheld. This was more restrictive than what the IRS/DOL would have allowed! Check your actual plan document before making any assumptions about deadlines.

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Mia Roberts

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This is such an important point that most people miss. My solo 401k is through Fidelity and their plan document has different rules than my friend's plan through Vanguard. The IRS regulations are the minimum requirements, but your specific plan can add more restrictive deadlines.

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Zara Ahmed

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CPA here specializing in small business retirement plans. This thread has covered most of the key points, but I want to emphasize something critical that could save you headaches down the road. The IRS distinction between "elective deferrals" and "employer contributions" is crucial for S-Corps. Your $22,500 employee deferral must be reflected as reduced wages on your 2024 W-2 (Box 1 should show $81,500 instead of $104,000 if you defer the full amount). This creates the paper trail showing the deferral happened in 2024. However, here's what many miss: if you haven't actually moved the money to your 401k account yet, you need to be very careful about cash flow and business expense timing. The IRS could potentially challenge whether you had "constructive receipt" of that income if the funds sat in your business account for months while you used them for other business expenses. My recommendation: even if your plan document allows flexibility, try to deposit the deferred funds by January 31st at the latest. This shows good faith compliance and avoids any potential constructive receipt issues. The employer profit sharing contribution can definitely wait until your tax filing deadline, but treat the employee deferrals with more urgency. Also double-check that your payroll system is properly coding the deferrals for your W-2 - Box 12 should show the $22,500 with code "D" for elective deferrals.

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Ava Thompson

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was looking for! The constructive receipt angle is something I hadn't even considered. Quick follow-up question: if I do move the deferred funds by January 31st as you suggest, but I've been using some of that cash for business expenses in December (like paying year-end bonuses to contractors), could that create problems? The money is still there in the business account, but it's been "touched" for other business purposes. Does that matter from a constructive receipt standpoint, or is it just about having the funds available when I make the actual 401k deposit?

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