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What's the Best Way to File Taxes Using Form 8919 After Submitting SS-8?

I recently submitted an SS-8 form to the IRS because I believe I was misclassified as an independent contractor. I received a 1099-NEC showing $44,526.75 in non-employee compensation, but this really should have been W-2 wages. I'm now trying to figure out how to use Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages) while waiting for the IRS determination on my worker status. From what I understand, using Form 8919 means I'd only pay the employee portion of Social Security (6.2%) and Medicare (1.45%) taxes instead of the full self-employment tax, which would save me a decent amount of money. After working through the calculations, I think I'd owe about $3,406.30 in SS and Medicare taxes combined with Form 8919, versus paying around $6,300 if I filed as self-employed. My main question is: How do I actually file with Form 8919? Can I use tax software and e-file, or do I have to mail in a paper return? I tried using FreeTaxUSA and indicated that I should have been classified as an employee, but it's still showing I owe over $6,000 in taxes. Am I doing something wrong or missing a step somewhere? Any guidance would be super appreciated!

Sofia Torres

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Form 8919 is definitely the right approach when you believe you've been misclassified and have already submitted Form SS-8. Most tax software can handle Form 8919, but you need to make sure you're entering everything correctly. When using tax software, you need to specifically tell it that you're filing Form 8919 and select the correct reason code (probably code G since you've filed the SS-8 but haven't received a determination). The software should then calculate only the employee portion of FICA taxes (the 7.65% total) rather than the full 15.3% self-employment tax. If the software is still calculating self-employment tax, you might be missing a step in the software's workflow. Look for specific sections about worker classification or Form 8919. If you can't find it, you might need to try different tax software or file by mail. As for the mailing option, you'd complete Form 8919, attach it to your Form 1040, and mail everything together. Make sure to include a copy of your 1099-NEC as well.

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Thanks for the detailed response! I was worried I was missing something in FreeTaxUSA. Do you have any specific tax software recommendations that handle Form 8919 well? I'm not opposed to paying for software if it makes this process easier. Also, if I do end up mailing my return, how long should I expect to wait for my refund compared to e-filing?

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Sofia Torres

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TaxSlayer and H&R Block's software both handle Form 8919 fairly well in my experience. TurboTax can also work but sometimes requires more digging through their interface to find the right input screens. If you mail your return instead of e-filing, expect a significantly longer wait for your refund. E-filed returns with direct deposit typically see refunds within 21 days, while paper returns can take 6-8 weeks under normal circumstances, and sometimes longer during busy periods or if there are any complications.

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Ava Martinez

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How exactly does taxr.ai handle the 8919 form compared to regular tax software? Does it actually file for you or just give you instructions? I'm in a similar situation but with a much larger amount on my 1099-NEC so getting this right is really important for me.

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Miguel Ramos

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I'm a bit skeptical about using a service I haven't heard of for something this specific. Did you end up getting any pushback from the IRS? I'm worried about raising red flags by not paying the self-employment tax while waiting for the SS-8 determination.

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Miguel Ramos

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QuantumQuasar

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Yara Sayegh

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Just wanted to add my experience with the mailing option since nobody mentioned timing. I had to file Form 8919 last year and chose to mail my return because I couldn't get TurboTax to handle it correctly. My return took FOREVER to process - almost 4 months before I got my refund. If you can find software that handles Form 8919 correctly and allows e-filing, I would strongly recommend that route. Also, make sure you keep copies of absolutely everything - your 1099-NEC, your completed Form 8919, proof of mailing if you go that route, and especially proof that you filed your SS-8. You might need these if there are any questions later.

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Did you eventually get a determination on your SS-8? I'm curious how long that process takes and what happens if they determine you should have been an employee. Does the employer get in trouble?

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Yara Sayegh

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I did finally get a determination after about 11 months - they ruled I should have been classified as an employee. The employer doesn't automatically get in trouble, but they do receive notification of the determination. The IRS may choose to audit them or pursue them for the employer portion of taxes they should have paid, but that process is separate from your tax situation. In my case, I got a letter confirming the determination and no additional action was required on my part since I had already filed using Form 8919. If I had paid self-employment tax instead, they would have given instructions for getting a refund of the excess taxes paid.

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Paolo Longo

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Quick tip if you're preparing Form 8919 - make sure you enter code G in box c since you've filed the SS-8 but haven't received a determination. Also, you'll need to fill out the employer information in boxes d through f (name, EIN, and address). The other thing people often miss is that the amount from the 1099-NEC goes in column d (Total wages) of Form 8919, and then that same amount needs to be reported on Schedule 1 as "other income" with a note that it's also being reported on Form 8919. This prevents duplicate taxation while ensuring it's properly reported. If the software doesn't seem to be handling this correctly, try entering your 1099-NEC information, but then go back and look for a section about "Forms" or "Miscellaneous Forms" and specifically add Form 8919.

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Thanks for this specific advice! This might be exactly what I was missing when trying to use FreeTaxUSA. I'll look for the "Miscellaneous Forms" section and see if I can manually add Form 8919 there. Just to confirm - the income still shows up as "other income" but the software should then not calculate self-employment tax on it because it's being handled through Form 8919 instead?

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Diego Rojas

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Exactly right! When you properly complete Form 8919, the income shows up as "other income" on your tax return, but the software should NOT calculate self-employment tax on that amount. Instead, it calculates only the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65% total) through Form 8919. The key is making sure the software knows that this income is being handled by Form 8919 rather than as self-employment income. Some software will automatically make this connection when you add Form 8919, while others require you to manually exclude the 1099-NEC income from self-employment calculations. If FreeTaxUSA still shows self-employment tax after adding Form 8919, you might need to look for a section about "self-employment income" and make sure your 1099-NEC amount isn't being counted there. The same income can't be subject to both self-employment tax AND Form 8919 - it has to be one or the other.

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through this exact situation about 8 months ago. The key thing that helped me was understanding that Form 8919 needs to be treated as a separate form in your tax software, not just an adjustment to your 1099-NEC. In FreeTaxUSA specifically, after you enter your 1099-NEC information, go to the "Federal Taxes" section and look for "Less Common Income" or "Other Tax Situations." There should be an option for "Unreported Social Security and Medicare Tax" or something similar - that's where you'll find Form 8919. When you complete Form 8919, make sure you: 1. Use reason code G (you filed SS-8 but no determination yet) 2. Enter your employer's full information 3. Put the full amount from your 1099-NEC in the wages section The software should then automatically reduce your self-employment tax and only charge you the employee portion of FICA taxes. If it's still showing the full self-employment tax, double-check that the 1099-NEC amount isn't being counted twice in different sections. One last tip - print out your completed return before filing to verify the numbers look right. You should see Form 8919 attached and your total tax should be significantly lower than if you filed as self-employed.

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Riya Sharma

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This is incredibly helpful! I've been struggling with FreeTaxUSA for weeks trying to figure out where exactly to enter Form 8919. Your step-by-step instructions about finding it under "Less Common Income" or "Other Tax Situations" is exactly what I needed. I'm going to try this approach tonight and see if I can finally get my return calculated correctly. The idea of printing it out first to verify the numbers is really smart too - I want to make sure everything looks right before I actually file. One quick question - when you say the software should "automatically reduce your self-employment tax," does that mean it should show $0 for self-employment tax, or just a reduced amount? I want to make sure I know what to expect when I see the final calculations. Thanks so much for sharing your experience with the exact same software!

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