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Saleem Vaziri

Employee incorrectly given 1099-NEC instead of W-2 - filing SS-8 and 8919 forms

So I've been helping my wife with her taxes this year and we just realized her employer has been treating her as an independent contractor when she clearly isn't one. She got a 1099-NEC instead of a W-2 which is totally wrong based on everything I've researched. Looking at the IRS guidelines, she's definitely an employee: her boss controls when and how she works, she uses the company's equipment, they set her pay rate, and they're super specific about how everything needs to be done. The few times she's had to use her own stuff for work, they've reimbursed her way more than necessary. We're planning to file Form SS-8 to get a determination from the IRS about her proper classification, then wait a day and file Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" since she shouldn't be paying self-employment taxes. What's confusing me is whether we need to file the 1099-NEC along with Form 8919, and which reason code to use on the 8919. Anyone dealt with this misclassification issue before? Really appreciate any advice!

Kayla Morgan

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You're definitely on the right track! This misclassification happens more often than you'd think, and it sounds like your wife clearly meets the IRS tests for being an employee rather than an independent contractor. When filing Form 8919, you'll need to select a reason code that best fits your situation. Since you're filing an SS-8 first, you should use reason code G: "I filed Form SS-8 and haven't received a determination letter." That's the most appropriate one given the timing you described. Regarding the 1099-NEC, you still need to report that income on your tax return. The Form 8919 will help you calculate the proper Social Security and Medicare taxes as if your wife had been properly classified as an employee. You'll also need to attach a copy of the 1099-NEC to your tax return when you submit it. Just be aware that the SS-8 determination process can take several months, so don't expect an immediate resolution. In the meantime, filing with reason code G is the correct approach.

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James Maki

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Do you still have to pay the full 15.3% self employment tax while waiting for the SS-8 determination? Or does filing the 8919 automatically split that so you only pay the employee half? Just curious because my girlfriend is in a similar situation.

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Kayla Morgan

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The great thing about filing Form 8919 is that you only pay the employee's portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (about 7.65%) instead of the full self-employment tax (15.3%). That's why it's important to file both the SS-8 and the 8919 - it saves you from overpaying while waiting for the official determination. For your girlfriend's situation, she should definitely consider the same approach if she meets the employee criteria. The savings can be substantial, especially for higher income amounts.

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Derek Olson

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you keep detailed records of everything related to your employment relationship! The more evidence you have showing your wife was treated as an employee, the better. Things like: - Emails about work schedules - Instructions from supervisors - Company policies she had to follow - Evidence she used company equipment - Any performance reviews - Communications about how work should be done I went through this last year and my SS-8 was approved because I had saved everything. My coworker filed at the same time but didn't have as much documentation and is still waiting for a determination.

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Saleem Vaziri

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Thanks for the advice! We actually have a bunch of this stuff already - especially emails about schedules and very detailed instructions on how to complete tasks. There's also an employee handbook she had to follow despite being classified as a "contractor." Would it be helpful to include copies of these with the SS-8 form or just describe them?

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Derek Olson

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You should definitely include copies of the most relevant documents along with your SS-8 filing. The employee handbook is particularly valuable evidence - that's a smoking gun that shows they treated her as an employee. I'd select the strongest 10-15 examples rather than overwhelming them with everything. Focus on documents that clearly show the company controlled how and when she worked, required her to follow specific procedures, or explicitly treated her as part of the company rather than an outside contractor.

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Danielle Mays

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Has your wife tried talking to her employer directly about this before filing the SS-8? Some companies genuinely don't understand the classification rules and might fix it voluntarily if approached. I was misclassified a few years ago, and when I explained the issue to my boss with some printouts from the IRS website, they actually reclassified me and issued a W-2 instead. Saved a lot of hassle with forms and waiting for IRS determinations.

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Roger Romero

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This is terrible advice. Most employers know exactly what they're doing - saving themselves the employer portion of payroll taxes and avoiding labor laws. Approaching them directly just gives them a heads up that you're onto them and time to prepare a defense or even fire you.

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