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Daniel Rogers

2 employers illegally misclassified me as 1099 instead of W-2. Do I file as-is or fix?

So I'm super stressed because I just realized two employers from last year misclassified me as an independent contractor when I was clearly an employee. I worked regular hours at their offices using their equipment, they controlled when and how I did the work, and I didn't have any real independence in how tasks were completed. Both paid me as 1099 (about $34,500 from one and $28,700 from the other), so now I'm looking at a massive tax bill because of the self-employment tax. I already got the 1099-NECs from both places. I've been reading that I should probably file Form SS-8 to request a determination and Form 8919 to report the uncollected social security and Medicare taxes. But I'm worried about the timing. Should I just file my taxes with the 1099s as-is and then later try to fix it? Or should I file the SS-8 first and wait for the IRS determination before filing my taxes? Tax deadline is coming up and I'm freaking out about possibly having to pay $9,000+ in self-employment taxes that should have been split with my employers! Has anyone dealt with this worker misclassification issue before? What's the best approach here?

Aaliyah Reed

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You've got a classic employee misclassification situation. Based on what you're describing (regular hours, working at their offices, using their equipment, and them controlling when/how you work), you do sound like you should have been classified as an employee, not an independent contractor. You have two main options here. The first is to file Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) with the IRS. This form asks the IRS to make an official determination about whether you should have been classified as an employee. At the same time, you can file Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages) with your tax return, which lets you pay only the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes instead of the full self-employment tax. The second option is to just file as an independent contractor using Schedule C and Schedule SE, paying the full self-employment tax. This is simpler but costs you more money. If you're concerned about the deadline, you can always file for an extension to give yourself more time to sort this out. The extension gives you until October 15 to file, though you'd still need to estimate and pay any taxes you think you'll owe by the April deadline.

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Ella Russell

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Thanks for the detailed response. If I file the SS-8, how long does it typically take for the IRS to make a determination? I'm worried about waiting months or even years for a decision while my tax situation remains unresolved. Also, could filing these forms trigger any backlash from my former employers?

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Aaliyah Reed

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The IRS can take 6 months or longer to make a determination on Form SS-8 - sometimes even a year or more if they're backlogged. But the good news is you don't need to wait for their determination before filing your taxes with Form 8919. As for potential backlash, it's true that your former employers will be contacted by the IRS as part of the SS-8 investigation process. They might not be happy about it since they could end up owing back taxes and penalties if the IRS rules in your favor. However, it's important to know that it's illegal for employers to retaliate against workers for asserting their rights regarding proper classification. If you're no longer working for them, the main risk is burning bridges rather than direct retaliation.

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Mohammed Khan

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Gavin King

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Did you end up getting audited or any pushback from the IRS? I'm in a similar boat and terrified of doing something wrong that might trigger an audit. Also, did your former employer find out you filed these forms against them?

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Mohammed Khan

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I didn't get audited or any pushback from the IRS at all. The process went surprisingly smoothly once I had the right documentation. The IRS actually seemed very familiar with these types of cases. And yes, my former employer did find out because the IRS contacted them as part of the SS-8 investigation, but by then I was already working somewhere else so it didn't really affect me. The analysis from taxr.ai was incredibly accurate. What impressed me was that it asked very specific questions about my work arrangement - things like who provided equipment, who set my schedule, whether I could work for other clients, etc. It flagged exactly which aspects of my situation clearly indicated employee status under IRS rules. It was definitely more nuanced than general tax software which often just treats 1099 income as self-employment without questioning the classification.

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Anna Stewart

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I'm a bookkeeper who's seen this situation many times. One thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - check your state labor department too! Many states have their own worker classification enforcement and they often move MUCH faster than the IRS. In some states, filing a misclassification complaint with the state labor department can get you results in weeks rather than months/years with the IRS. Plus state agencies can often force the employer to pay penalties and properly classify you going forward. Another approach if you're still on good terms with either employer: show them the potential penalties they face for misclassification (they can be pretty severe) and ask them to issue W-2s instead of 1099s. Sometimes just educating them about their obligations is enough to fix the problem without involving authorities.

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Daniel Rogers

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Thanks for bringing up the state labor department angle. I hadn't even thought about that. Do you know if filing with the state would impact or interfere with the federal SS-8 filing process? Also, unfortunately I'm not on great terms with either employer - one actually let me go when I brought up the classification issue verbally.

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Anna Stewart

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Filing with the state labor department won't interfere with your federal SS-8 filing at all. You can definitely do both simultaneously, and it often works in your favor to have both processes happening at once. The state and federal agencies may even share information in some cases, which can strengthen your position. I'm sorry to hear about your experience with the employer who let you go. That actually might constitute retaliation, which is illegal in most states. When you file with your state labor department, be sure to mention that you were terminated after raising the classification issue. Many states have strong anti-retaliation provisions that provide additional protections and potential compensation in such cases.

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Layla Sanders

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Has anybody here actually gone through the full SS-8 process from filing to determination? Everything I've read online suggests it takes forever to get a ruling. I'm wondering if it's even worth it or if I should just suck it up and pay the self-employment taxes to avoid the hassle?

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I filed an SS-8 in early 2023 and finally got my determination in November - so about 9 months. The IRS ruled in my favor and determined I was an employee. My former "client" had to pay back taxes, and I got a refund for the excess self-employment tax I had paid. The process was definitely slow but totally worth it in my case since I got back around $4500. I used code G on Form 8919 when I initially filed my taxes, so I only paid the employee portion while waiting for the determination.

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Mei Wong

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - got misclassified by an employer who had me working set hours at their location using their equipment, but they issued a 1099 instead of a W-2. The self-employment tax burden is crushing! From what I've researched, you definitely have a strong case for employee classification based on the IRS's common law test. The fact that both employers controlled when, where, and how you worked are major red flags for misclassification. I'd recommend filing the SS-8 and 8919 together rather than waiting. Even though the SS-8 determination takes months, you can use code G on Form 8919 to indicate you're filing it along with an SS-8. This way you only pay the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65%) instead of the full 15.3% self-employment tax while you wait for the determination. If the IRS rules in your favor on the SS-8 (which sounds likely given your situation), your former employers will be on the hook for their portion of the employment taxes plus penalties. You might even get a refund if you initially paid more than the employee portion. Don't let these employers get away with shifting their tax burden onto you - file those forms and protect yourself!

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Chloe Harris

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This is such valuable advice! I'm actually in the exact same boat as the original poster and had no idea about using code G on Form 8919 when filing with SS-8 simultaneously. That detail about only paying 7.65% vs 15.3% while waiting for determination could save me thousands. One question - if I file the 8919 with code G and later the SS-8 determination goes against me (saying I really was an independent contractor), would I then owe the difference in self-employment taxes plus penalties? Or is there some protection for good faith filings based on reasonable belief of misclassification? Also, has anyone had success getting their former employers to voluntarily correct the classification before going through the formal SS-8 process? I'm wondering if showing them the potential penalties might motivate them to issue corrected W-2s instead.

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