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Emily Parker

Should I file SS-8 for employee misclassification now or wait and amend taxes later? Worried about employer revenge

I've been at this sketchy startup for about a year and a half now. For the first 10 months they had me classified as an "independent contractor" even though I was clearly an employee (set hours, using their equipment, under direct supervision, etc). The owner finally got nervous after some audit threat and switched everybody over to W-2 employees, but he's totally denying any wrongdoing about the past. Now I'm staring at a $9,400 tax bill because of all those self-employment taxes I shouldn't have had to pay! I know filing Form SS-8 is the right move to address this misclassification, but I'm seriously concerned about retaliation. This guy has a temper and if he finds out I reported this, he'll probably take it out on the whole team. I have some questions: - Can I just pay these taxes now to avoid penalties, then file an amended return with the SS-8 after I've found a different job? - Is there any difference in how the IRS handles the SS-8 if I file it now versus with an amended return later? - Is there any advantage to filing everything together right now? I'm trying to do the right thing without screwing over my coworkers through collateral damage.

Ezra Collins

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Filing Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) is definitely the right approach for your situation. The good news is you do have options about when to file it. You can absolutely pay your taxes now and then amend your return later when you've secured new employment. This is often the safest approach when you're concerned about employer retaliation. The IRS will still process your SS-8 the same way whether you file it now or later - there's no "penalty" for waiting. When you do file the SS-8, just know the process typically takes 6+ months for the IRS to make a determination. Once they rule in your favor (which sounds likely based on what you've described), you'll file Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" along with your amended return (Form 1040X) to receive credit for the employer's portion of those taxes. One thing to consider - the statute of limitations for tax refunds is generally 3 years from the original filing date, so don't wait too long after leaving the job.

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Thanks for the advice! Quick follow-up: if I wait to file the SS-8 later, do I need to include any documentation with my current tax return to indicate that I might be filing for misclassification in the future? I don't want to do anything now that would tip off my employer, but I also don't want the IRS to think I'm trying to hide something.

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Ezra Collins

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You don't need to include any documentation with your current return indicating future plans to file an SS-8. Just file and pay your taxes as they currently stand based on the forms you received. The IRS won't view this as hiding anything - they understand that worker classification issues often take time to resolve, and filing an amended return later is a normal and accepted process.

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Zara Perez

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Did you have to talk to a live person or is it all automated? I'm in a similar situation but I'm worried about confidentiality.

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Daniel Rogers

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How long did it take for the IRS to process your SS-8 and get you a refund? I'm considering doing this but I've heard horror stories about waiting over a year.

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It's all automated - you upload your documents and the AI analyzes them privately. No humans reviewing your stuff unless you specifically request expert help. Super secure and confidential which was important to me too. The IRS took about 7 months to process my SS-8 and make a determination. After that, I filed my amended return and got my refund about 6 weeks later. So yeah, it's not quick, but having all the documentation perfectly organized definitely helped speed things up compared to some stories I've heard.

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Zara Perez

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and WOW. It helped me identify at least 5 clear violations of employee classification that I hadn't even realized. The documentation generator was amazing - it organized everything chronologically with specific references to IRS guidelines that were being violated. I was able to download a complete package ready for submission with my SS-8. I'm actually going to wait until I find a new job (interviewing now) before I submit everything, but having it all ready to go gives me huge peace of mind. The whole process took me less than an hour and now I have a bulletproof case ready whenever I decide to pull the trigger.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Ella Russell

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Wait, this actually works? I've been trying to reach the IRS for THREE WEEKS about my misclassification issue. How long did you have to wait?

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Mohammed Khan

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Sounds like a scam tbh. Nobody can get through to the IRS these days. They're not even answering their phones most of the time.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Mohammed Khan

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I have to eat my words and apologize to @9. I tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment because I was desperate (had been trying to reach the IRS for weeks about my misclassification issue). Not only did I get through to the IRS in about 25 minutes, but the agent I spoke with was incredibly helpful. She explained that filing SS-8 forms actually gives you certain whistleblower protections, and confirmed that if my employer retaliated, that would open them up to additional penalties. She also walked me through exactly how to document the retaliation if it happens. Most importantly, she confirmed that filing taxes now and amending later is 100% legitimate and won't reduce my chances of getting my money back. This completely changed my strategy - I'm going to pay my taxes now to avoid penalties, but I'm preparing all my documentation for when I'm ready to file the SS-8.

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Gavin King

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you keep DETAILED records of everything before you leave. This includes: - Copies of any "contractor" agreements - Evidence of when/how they monitored your work - Emails/texts showing they controlled your schedule - Proof they provided equipment/workspace - Any communication about the switch from contractor to employee - Documentation of similar workers classified as employees When I went through this, the strength of my paper trail made all the difference. My employer tried to fight the SS-8 determination but I had documented EVERYTHING.

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Emily Parker

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Thank you for this! I've actually been keeping pretty good records, but I hadn't thought about documenting how other similar workers are classified. That's a great tip. Have you gone through the whole process with the SS-8 and amendment? How long did it take to get your refund after everything was approved?

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Gavin King

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The whole process took about 10 months from filing the SS-8 to getting my refund. The SS-8 determination took the longest (about 8 months), but once that was approved, the amended return processing went fairly quickly. The comparison to other workers was actually the smoking gun in my case. I had evidence showing that another person with identical duties was classified as an employee while I was a "contractor" - the IRS found that especially compelling. Document everything now while you still have access!

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Nathan Kim

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Just want to add something important - I know you're afraid of retaliation, but you should know that if your employer fires you or retaliates after you file an SS-8, you might have grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit. That's what happened to me - boss found out I filed and fired me two weeks later, claiming "performance issues" even though I had perfect reviews. I consulted with an employment lawyer who took my case on contingency, and we settled out of court for way more than the tax money I was fighting over. Just something to consider.

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Did you have to prove the firing was connected to the SS-8 filing? My boss is smart enough to wait a month or two and then find some minor policy violation to use as an excuse.

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Jacob Lewis

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - been misclassified for 8 months and just got switched to W-2 status. The advice here about paying taxes now and filing SS-8 later makes a lot of sense from a practical standpoint. One thing I'd add is to document any conversations you have with your employer about the classification change. When my boss switched everyone over, he made some comments about "avoiding trouble with the IRS" that I wish I had recorded. That kind of admission could be valuable evidence later. Also, consider reaching out to your coworkers who were also misclassified - if multiple people file SS-8 forms, it strengthens everyone's case and makes it harder for the employer to claim it was an honest mistake. You don't all have to file at the same time, but coordinating your documentation efforts could be helpful. The 3-year statute of limitations mentioned earlier gives you plenty of time to find a new job and then pursue this properly. Your financial security is important, but so is getting back the money you're owed.

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Paolo Conti

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This is really helpful advice about coordinating with coworkers! I hadn't thought about the strength that multiple SS-8 filings could provide. One question about the documentation - when you mention recording conversations, are there any legal considerations about consent laws in different states? I'm in a two-party consent state and I'm worried about getting in trouble for recording without permission, even if the conversation would help my case. Also, did you end up finding that your coworkers were willing to coordinate, or were most people too scared about retaliation to participate? I'm trying to gauge whether it's worth approaching this as a group effort or if I should just focus on building my own individual case.

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Nia Davis

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I went through something similar two years ago and want to share what worked for me. I was misclassified for over a year and faced a huge self-employment tax bill. Here's what I learned: paying your taxes now to avoid penalties while you prepare your SS-8 case is absolutely the smart move when you're worried about retaliation. The IRS doesn't penalize you for this approach - they actually prefer when taxpayers pay on time even if they're planning to dispute classification later. A few practical tips from my experience: 1. Start gathering your evidence NOW while you still have access to company systems, emails, and can observe daily operations. Once you leave, this becomes much harder. 2. The IRS looks at the totality of the working relationship, so document everything: who controlled your schedule, whose equipment you used, how integrated you were into their business operations, whether you had other clients, etc. 3. Consider consulting with a tax professional before filing your SS-8. I found one who specialized in worker classification issues and it was worth every penny - they helped me present the strongest possible case. 4. When you do file the SS-8 (after finding new employment), request expedited processing if you're facing financial hardship from the misclassification. It doesn't always work, but it's worth asking. The waiting period is tough, but getting that determination in your favor and recovering thousands in overpaid taxes makes it worthwhile. Stay strong and protect yourself first - your employer created this mess, not you.

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GamerGirl99

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially the part about requesting expedited processing for financial hardship! I hadn't heard about that option before. Quick question about consulting with a tax professional - did you find yours through a specific referral source, or just search for someone who specializes in worker classification? I'm worried about finding someone who actually knows this area well versus just a general tax preparer who might not understand the nuances. Also, when you mention documenting "how integrated you were into their business operations," could you give some specific examples of what the IRS considers strong evidence? I think I have good documentation on schedule control and equipment, but I want to make sure I'm not missing other important factors that could strengthen my case. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really encouraging to hear from someone who successfully went through this process!

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Oliver Weber

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I'm going through almost the exact same situation right now - misclassified for 14 months and just got hit with a massive self-employment tax bill. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I wanted to add one thing that my accountant mentioned when I was weighing the timing decision: if you do decide to pay now and file the SS-8 later, make sure to pay the full amount owed rather than just making a partial payment. The IRS stops charging failure-to-pay penalties once you've paid in full, but partial payments can still leave you exposed to additional penalties while your SS-8 is being processed. Also, for anyone considering the documentation tools mentioned here - I can't stress enough how important it is to have everything organized before you file. I spent weeks trying to reconstruct my case after the fact, and I'm sure I missed some important evidence that could have strengthened my position. The retaliation concern is so real, but knowing there are legal protections (and potential additional remedies) definitely makes me feel more confident about eventually pursuing this. It's frustrating that we have to choose between doing what's right and protecting our current income, but at least there are viable strategies for handling both. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's really helpful to know we're not alone in dealing with these sketchy employer practices!

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