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Hailey O'Leary

What's a reasonable cost for a complex tax return with multiple K1s and states?

So my sister is a high income earner who just got her tax bill from her accountant and she's freaking out about how much they charged her. She's wondering if she's being ripped off. Her situation: About 2.7 million in AGI this year, around 280 K1s (with like 60-70 new investments since last year), and tax filings across 15 different states due to her investment portfolio. She's always used this same accounting firm but the bill this year seemed substantially higher than previous years. I know tax prep for complex situations isn't cheap, but what would be considered reasonable for this level of complexity? I want to help her determine if she should be shopping around or if this is just the reality of having such a complicated tax situation.

Cedric Chung

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Those numbers would make any tax preparer's eyes water! Your sister's return is exceptionally complex, well beyond what 99.9% of taxpayers deal with. For context, each K1 can require significant work - they're not just numbers to plug in. Each one represents a separate investment that may require special treatment, basis calculations, and can trigger various reporting requirements. With 280 K1s, that alone is massive. Then factor in 15 state returns, each with their own rules for allocating income, deductions, and credits. The multi-state aspect adds another level of complexity because each state has different rules about how to handle income from other states. Some states give credit for taxes paid elsewhere, some don't, and some have special calculations. Without seeing the actual bill, I'd say a return of this complexity could easily run into five figures. I've seen similarly complex returns (though rarely with that many K1s) cost anywhere from $8,000 to $25,000+ depending on the firm and location.

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Talia Klein

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Whoa, really? $25k+ just to do your taxes? At what point does it make sense to just hire a full-time person to manage this year-round? Genuinely curious, not being snarky.

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Cedric Chung

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For a return this complex, hiring a full-time person could actually make sense, but they'd still need specialized tax expertise. Many ultra-high net worth individuals eventually create a family office that handles these matters. Even with a dedicated person, you'd still want an accounting firm's oversight for the actual filing since tax laws change constantly and the penalties for errors at this income level can be substantial. It's not just about data entry - it's about tax strategy, risk assessment, and staying current with changing regulations across 15 different states.

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I went through something similar last year with a somewhat complex return (though nowhere near 280 K1s - more like 30, and 7 states). I was getting charged around $3,800 which felt excessive until I found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which helped me understand what was actually going on with my return. I uploaded all my documents there and it broke down the complexity score of my return compared to others. Turns out my return was in the top 2% of complexity! The tool showed me exactly what was driving the complexity and helped me understand why certain investments were creating so much tax work. It can analyze all your K1s and give you a fair estimate of what prep work should reasonably cost. Might help your sister determine if she's actually being overcharged or not.

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PaulineW

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This sounds interesting. Does taxr.ai prepare the return for you or just analyze what's driving complexity? My situation isn't nearly as complex but I still feel like I'm overpaying.

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I'm suspicious of any service claiming to tell you what's "reasonable" for tax prep. Different firms have wildly different pricing structures. How does this site account for that? Do they have partnerships with certain firms?

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It doesn't prepare the return for you - it analyzes your tax documents and shows what's causing complexity. It's more of a diagnostic tool that helps you understand if what you're being charged makes sense based on your specific situation. The reasonable cost estimates are based on aggregated data from thousands of returns across different regions and firm sizes. They don't have partnerships with accounting firms - it's an independent service. They use machine learning to analyze complexity factors across returns with similar characteristics and provide a range of what others typically pay for comparable situations.

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Josef Tearle

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Actual tax pro here. For a return with 2.7M AGI, 280 K1s and 15 states, I'd expect to see a bill anywhere from $12,000-$30,000 depending on the firm's location and specialty. Some observations: 1. The number of K1s is the biggest complexity driver - each one requires review and proper allocation 2. Multi-state returns multiply the work significantly 3. The high AGI means greater scrutiny is needed as audit risk increases 4. New K1s require additional setup work vs continuing investments If your sister is getting charged in this ballpark, it's probably reasonable. If significantly more, might be worth shopping around. If significantly less, they might be cutting corners or will raise prices soon.

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Thanks for this breakdown! The bill came in at $19,500 which based on your range seems reasonable given the complexity. Do you think it's worth having someone review the work to make sure everything was handled properly? Or is that overkill?

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Josef Tearle

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That $19,500 fee sounds very reasonable for the complexity described. Given the number of K1s and states involved, I'd say that's actually on the moderate side of what I'd expect. Regarding a second review, it's generally not necessary unless you have specific concerns about the work quality. Most reputable firms already have internal review processes for returns of this complexity. However, if this is the first year with this particular preparer or if your sister noticed specific issues, a focused review of certain aspects might be worthwhile. But a full secondary review would likely cost almost as much as the original preparation, so it's usually not cost-effective without specific concerns.

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Shelby Bauman

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Any chance your sister would consider simplifying her investment structure? 280 K1s is absolutely insane and probably not necessary from an investment diversification standpoint. Has she looked into consolidating some investments through a more streamlined approach? I used to get about 30 K1s and was able to restructure through some fund-of-funds approaches and consolidated entity structures that got me down to 8 K1s without changing my actual investment exposure. My tax bill went from $6k to $2k the following year.

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Quinn Herbert

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This is actually really smart advice. A lot of wealthy individuals end up with investment spaghetti over time without realizing how much they're paying in accounting fees to manage it all. Sometimes it's worth taking a tax hit in one year to simplify the structure and save on accounting fees for years to come.

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Salim Nasir

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Just wanted to add that the timing of when all those K1s arrived matters too. If most came in late (which is common with complex partnerships), the accounting firm probably had to file extensions and do a lot of the work during their non-busy season. That's often billed at different rates. My firm charges 20-30% more for K1-heavy returns because they're unpredictable and often cause bottlenecks in our workflow. The 60-70 new K1s would definitely add setup time too.

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Sarah Ali

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As someone who's dealt with complex returns (though nowhere near your sister's level), I'd echo what others are saying - $19,500 for that complexity actually sounds quite reasonable. One thing I'd suggest is asking the firm for a breakdown of how they arrived at that fee. Most reputable firms should be able to show you time spent on different components - K1 processing, state return prep, review time, etc. This transparency helps you understand what you're paying for and can be useful for budgeting future years. Also, given the scale of her investments, your sister might want to consider working with the firm throughout the year for tax planning rather than just at filing time. With that income level and complexity, proactive planning could potentially save more in taxes than the additional advisory fees would cost. Many firms offer quarterly check-ins for clients with situations like this.

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StarStrider

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This is really helpful advice about asking for a breakdown! I never thought to request that level of detail from my tax preparer. Do most accounting firms provide this kind of transparency willingly, or do you typically have to specifically ask for it? I'm wondering if this is standard practice or something that only happens when clients push for it.

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