What is a DRE for tax purposes and when should you have one?
So I started my own little side business last year, and now I'm diving into all this tax stuff and honestly feeling like I'm drowning. I keep seeing mentions of a "DRE" in some business forums and articles, but I'm not really clear on what that is or if I need one. Is this something important for taxes? When would someone need to have a DRE? Is it something I should consider for my small business (just making custom jewelry that I sell on Etsy)? Any help would be super appreciated because I'm definitely out of my depth here!
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Ethan Wilson
A DRE stands for "Disregarded Entity" which is how the IRS treats certain single-member LLCs for federal tax purposes. Basically, if you have a single-member LLC, the IRS "disregards" it as separate from yourself for income tax purposes, but you still get the liability protection of an LLC under state law. When you have a DRE, you don't file a separate tax return for the business - instead, you report all business income and expenses on Schedule C of your personal Form 1040. This is different from other business entities like S-corps or partnerships that file their own returns. You might want a DRE (single-member LLC) when you want legal liability protection but don't want the complexity of a separate tax return. For your Etsy jewelry business, it could make sense if you're concerned about potential liability issues and want that separation between personal and business assets.
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Aisha Abdullah
•Thanks for the explanation! So if I understand correctly, a DRE gives me liability protection without changing how I file my taxes? I'm already filing Schedule C for my Etsy business, so would this just mean forming an LLC with my state but still doing taxes the exact same way?
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Ethan Wilson
•Yes, that's exactly right! You would form a single-member LLC with your state (usually through the Secretary of State's office or equivalent), and that gives you the liability protection under state law. For federal tax purposes, nothing would change - you'd continue filing Schedule C with your personal tax return exactly as you're doing now. The IRS "disregards" the entity (hence "Disregarded Entity") for tax purposes, but legally you'd have the liability protection of an LLC. This arrangement gives you the best of both worlds for a small business like yours.
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Yuki Tanaka
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Carmen Diaz
•Did it also help with determining if you needed to file any special forms? I've heard some states require additional filings for LLCs even if they're DREs for federal purposes.
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Andre Laurent
•This sounds interesting but I'm skeptical about online tax tools. Did it actually give you specific advice or just general information you could find anywhere? I've been burned before by "personalized" tools that just spit out generic advice.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Yes, it actually identified the specific state forms I needed to file for my LLC formation and ongoing requirements. It broke down both the initial filing fees and the annual fees I'd need to pay to maintain my LLC status in my state. This was super helpful because these requirements vary so much from state to state. The advice was definitely personalized based on my business type, income level, and state. It wasn't just generic information - it compared different scenarios specific to my situation and showed me the tax differences between remaining a sole proprietor versus forming an LLC treated as a DRE. It even calculated estimated savings and costs for my specific business situation.
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Andre Laurent
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AstroAce
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Zoe Kyriakidou
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you or something? I've been trying to get clarity on some business deductions for my DRE and can't get through either.
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Jamal Brown
•This sounds like a scam. Why would you pay someone else to call the IRS when you can just keep trying yourself? And how would they get through any faster than a regular person?
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AstroAce
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Jamal Brown
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Mei Zhang
Just want to add that while a DRE (single-member LLC) gives you liability protection, it doesn't protect you from EVERYTHING. I learned this the hard way. The "disregarded" part only applies to how taxes are filed. Things a DRE protects you from: business debts, most lawsuits against the business Things it DOESN'T protect you from: your own negligence, failing to separate personal/business finances, not filing proper paperwork Make sure you keep separate bank accounts, maintain good records, and follow all the formalities of having an LLC. Otherwise the courts can "pierce the veil" and you lose that liability protection!
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Aisha Abdullah
•That's really important info, thanks! Do you have any specific tips for making sure I maintain that separation properly? Like specific things I should or shouldn't do with a DRE?
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Mei Zhang
•Definitely! Here are the key things to maintain that separation: Get a separate business checking account and never mix personal funds with it. Get a business credit card that's only used for business expenses. Create an operating agreement for your LLC even though it's just you (many states don't require this, but it helps establish separation). Always sign documents as "[Your Name], Member/Manager of [LLC Name]" rather than just your personal signature. Keep meeting minutes annually even though it's just you (sounds silly but helps establish the separate entity). And make sure you file any required annual reports with your state - missing those can automatically dissolve your LLC protection.
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Liam McConnell
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - in some states, forming an LLC (even as a DRE) means you'll have to pay additional taxes or fees that you wouldn't as a sole proprietor. In California, for example, there's a minimum $800 annual tax just for having an LLC, even if you make no profit! Definitely check your state's requirements before deciding. In some cases, the extra costs might outweigh the liability benefits, especially if you have a very small low-risk business.
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Amara Oluwaseyi
•Yes! This is so important. I'm in Tennessee and we have the "Hall Income Tax" which can apply differently depending on your business structure. Always check state-specific rules!
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Aisha Abdullah
•Wow, I had no idea about those state fees. I'm in Michigan - guess I need to look into what our state requires for LLCs. Thanks for the heads up!
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PixelPrincess
For your jewelry business in Michigan, you're in luck! Michigan has relatively low LLC fees - just a $50 filing fee to create the LLC and no annual franchise tax like California has. Michigan also doesn't have that $800 minimum tax burden. However, you will need to file an Annual Statement with the state (around $25) to keep your LLC in good standing. Overall, Michigan is pretty LLC-friendly compared to states like California or New York. Since you're already doing Schedule C filing, the DRE route could work well for you - you'd get the liability protection without changing your federal tax situation, and Michigan's fees are reasonable. Just make sure to weigh the state filing costs against the potential liability protection benefits for your specific business situation.
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Dylan Campbell
•That's really helpful to know about Michigan's fees! As someone new to all this business stuff, the $50 filing fee and $25 annual statement seem totally reasonable compared to what some other states charge. I think I'm leaning toward setting up the LLC as a DRE - the liability protection seems worth it for those low costs, especially since I won't have to change how I file my taxes. Do you happen to know if there are any other ongoing requirements in Michigan I should be aware of besides that annual statement?
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