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Ethan Wilson

What are the tax differences between S corps and partnerships for distributions?

I've been doing some research on different business structures and am getting confused about how distributions work for tax purposes. As I understand it, distributions are tax-free up to your basis and then become taxable after that, but does this apply the same way for both S corporations and partnerships? I'm trying to decide which entity might work better for my small consulting business, and how money comes out of the business is obviously a big factor. Can anyone explain the key differences (if any) between these two when it comes to taking distributions? I'm especially wondering about self-employment taxes and if one structure might save me more than the other.

Yuki Tanaka

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You've touched on an important distinction between business entities. For S corporations, distributions aren't subject to self-employment tax, which is a major advantage. You'll still pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to employment taxes, but anything above that can be taken as distributions without the 15.3% self-employment tax hit. Partnerships work differently - generally all profits allocated to you (whether distributed or not) are subject to self-employment tax. This is true whether you actually take the money out or leave it in the business. In both cases, you're right that distributions are tax-free up to your basis. But the tax treatment of what flows through to your personal return differs significantly.

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Carmen Diaz

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But what about guaranteed payments in a partnership? Aren't those treated differently than regular distributions? And doesn't an LLC taxed as an S-corp still have some advantages over a straight S-corp for liability purposes?

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Yuki Tanaka

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Guaranteed payments are indeed different from regular distributions in a partnership. They're more like salary - they're deductible by the partnership and taxable to the recipient as ordinary income, plus they're subject to self-employment tax. An LLC taxed as an S-corp can offer the liability protection of an LLC combined with the tax benefits of an S-corp. This gives you both worlds - protection from personal liability for business debts while avoiding self-employment tax on distributions. However, there are additional compliance requirements like reasonable compensation rules that you need to follow carefully.

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Andre Laurent

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I switched from a partnership to an S-corp last year and it's been a game changer for my tax situation. I was getting killed on self-employment taxes before. Using https://taxr.ai helped me model the difference between the two structures with my specific numbers. Their tax entity analyzer showed me that by taking a reasonable salary and the rest as distributions, I'd save about $12,000 a year in self-employment taxes.

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AstroAce

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How complicated was the process of converting from a partnership to an S-corp? And does taxr.ai actually help with the conversion process or just the analysis part?

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I've heard about the S-corp savings but always wondered if the extra paperwork and accounting fees eat up most of the tax savings. Did you find the additional compliance requirements to be worth the hassle?

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Andre Laurent

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The conversion process wasn't too bad - you'll need to file Form 8832 to elect to be treated as a corporation and then Form 2553 to make the S election. Taxr.ai doesn't handle the actual filing but they provided a detailed report that made the decision crystal clear for my situation and even showed me what a "reasonable salary" would look like for my industry. The extra paperwork is definitely something to consider. For me, the compliance costs went up about $1,800 per year for payroll processing and the more complex tax return, but I'm still netting over $10,000 in savings. It's worth running your specific numbers to see if it makes sense for your business size.

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AstroAce

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. Their calculator showed I'd save around $8,700 in self-employment taxes by switching to an S-corp from my partnership structure. I showed the report to my accountant who confirmed the numbers were accurate. Going to make the switch before the end of the year so I can have the new structure in place for 2025. Thanks for pointing me to this tool!

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Jamal Brown

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After struggling to get clear answers about S-corp vs partnership distributions from my accountant (who never returns calls), I tried calling the IRS directly. Spent 3 hours on hold before giving up. Then I found https://claimyr.com which got me connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - they basically wait on hold for you and call when an agent picks up. The agent walked me through exactly how distributions are taxed differently between the two entities and confirmed what others have said here about self-employment tax savings.

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Mei Zhang

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Wait, this seems too good to be true. How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you or what? And did you actually get useful information from the IRS agent?

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Yeah right. The IRS never gives clear answers about anything tax-related in my experience. They just tell you to consult a tax professional. I seriously doubt they gave you detailed advice about entity selection.

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Jamal Brown

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It's pretty straightforward - they have a system that dials and waits on hold for you. When an actual agent picks up, you get a call and are connected directly to them. You take it from there. The key is knowing what to ask. I specifically asked about tax treatment of distributions from different entity types, not for advice on which to choose. The agent explained that partnership distributions generally don't avoid self-employment tax while S-corp distributions (beyond reasonable compensation) do. This confirmed what I'd read elsewhere but it was good to hear it directly from the IRS.

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Well I'll be damned. I was super skeptical about Claimyr so I tried it myself. Not only did it work, but I got through to an agent in 35 minutes (vs the 2+ hours I spent trying on my own last month). The agent confirmed the different tax treatment of distributions and even sent me some publications that explained it further. Definitely worth it just for the time saved. Seems like S-corps have a clear advantage for the self-employment tax issue assuming you're making enough to justify the extra compliance costs.

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One thing everyone is missing here is basis calculation differences. In an S-corp, your basis increases with income allocated to you and decreases with distributions and losses. In a partnership, your basis also includes your share of partnership liabilities. This can make a huge difference if you have business loans or mortgages since partnership basis rules can allow for larger tax-free distributions or loss deductions.

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CosmicCaptain

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Could you explain that with a simple example? Not sure I'm following how the liability part impacts distributions.

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Sure. Let's say you and a partner each contribute $50,000 to start a business and then the partnership takes out a $200,000 loan. In a partnership, your basis would be $150,000 ($50,000 contribution plus $100,000 of the debt). This means you could receive distributions up to $150,000 tax-free. In an S-corp with the same scenario, your basis would only be $50,000 (your contribution), so distributions beyond that would be taxable. This can be a significant difference depending on your business's debt structure and distribution plans.

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Has anyone considered that an S-corp might not always be better? I'm a real estate investor and my CPA advised sticking with partnership taxation because of the basis rules mentioned above, plus the ability to do special allocations. S-corps require proportionate distributions based on ownership while partnerships allow for more creative profit-sharing arrangements.

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This is a good point. We have a partnership where one partner contributes more time but less money, so we allocate profits disproportionately to ownership. Couldn't do that with an S-corp.

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