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Miguel Harvey

What are IRS filing requirements when a US taxpayer closes a dormant foreign corporation?

I'm a US citizen who's been living abroad for a while now. Several years ago while living in Thailand, I set up a corporation that ended up being completely dormant, and my tax person always included a 5471 form with my returns according to Rev Proc 97-20. Last October (2023), I finally closed down this dormant foreign corporation and relocated to Malaysia (still living overseas, not back in the States). When tax season rolled around for my 2023 return, my accountant told me I didn't need to file a 5471 for that year since the company had been officially dissolved. Fast forward to now - I switched accountants and this new one is claiming the first accountant was wrong. They're saying we need to do a "streamlined" 2023 return to include the form 5471. And naturally, they're trying to charge me extra for this service. Does anyone know if my new accountant is right about needing to include the 5471 with my 2023 return? Also, if they are right, would it just be the shortened Rev Proc 97-20 page 1 again, or is there something different required when reporting a corporation that's been closed? I made sure to follow all the legal requirements in Thailand to properly shut down the business.

Ashley Simian

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You definitely need to report the closing of your foreign corporation on Form 5471, even in the year of dissolution. The Rev Proc 97-20 simplified filing only applies to dormant foreign corporations that continue to exist. Once you've taken steps to legally dissolve the entity, you need to file a final Form 5471 to properly notify the IRS of the termination. For the final filing, you'll need to complete more than just page 1. You'll need to check the "Final 5471" box and complete Schedule O to report the disposition of your interest in the foreign corporation. You may also need to complete other applicable schedules depending on your specific situation. The first accountant was incorrect in advising you that no 5471 was needed for the year of dissolution. Your new accountant is right about needing to file, though you might want to clarify exactly what they mean by a "streamlined" return, as that typically refers to a specific IRS procedure for unreported foreign assets.

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Oliver Cheng

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Thanks for the detailed response. So if I understand correctly, filing the final 5471 isn't optional? I heard somewhere that if the corporation had no activity during its final year (before dissolution), you could skip the final filing. Is that incorrect information? Also, any idea what the penalty would be if I don't file this form? My new accountant is making it sound like I'm facing serious consequences, but is it really that bad for a dormant company that was properly closed?

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Ashley Simian

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Filing the final 5471 is definitely not optional. The information you heard about skipping the final filing is incorrect - the IRS specifically requires notification when you dispose of your interest in a foreign corporation, which dissolution certainly qualifies as. The penalties for failing to file Form 5471 can be quite severe. The standard penalty is $10,000 per form per year, and that can increase with continued non-compliance after IRS notification. Even for a dormant corporation, these penalties apply because the form requirement is about disclosure, not about whether there was activity. The IRS takes foreign reporting requirements very seriously, and penalties for international information returns tend to be much harsher than domestic equivalents.

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Max Reyes

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Just to add my experience - I closed a dormant Hong Kong corporation in 2022 and consulted with three different accountants who gave me three completely different answers about Form 5471 requirements. One said I needed a complete Form 5471 with all schedules, one said I only needed page 1 with the final return box checked, and the third said I needed no filing at all since the company had been dormant for years. I finally found the answer in IRS Publication 5188, which specifically addresses foreign corporation reporting. For a dissolution of a foreign corporation, you need to file a final Form 5471 and complete Schedule O to report the disposition, even if the corporation was dormant.

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Miguel Harvey

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Thank you all for the information! This has been incredibly helpful. Did you face any issues with exactly WHICH schedules needed to be filed with the final 5471? Beyond Schedule O, did you need to include any others even though the corporation was dormant?

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Max Reyes

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For my dormant corporation, I needed to file Schedule B (shareholders), Schedule O (organization or reorganization), and a statement explaining the dissolution. I didn't need to file the income schedules (Schedule I, J, P) since there was no activity, but I did need to submit Schedule E to show I had no earnings and profits. One important thing is to check the "Final 5471" box at the top of the form. Some accountants miss this, which can cause issues because the IRS may keep expecting you to file this form in future years if they don't know it's been dissolved.

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Quick heads up - I went through something similar and discovered there's a difference between a "dormant" corporation under Rev Proc 97-20 and an "inactive" one. Dormant means NO activity whatsoever during the tax year. If you had ANY financial transactions related to closing the company (paying final fees, receiving any distributions, etc.), you might not qualify for the simplified filing. I thought my UK company was dormant during its dissolution year, but the fees I paid to dissolve it counted as activity, which meant I needed to file the full 5471 rather than the simplified version. Might be worth double-checking if your dissolution process involved any financial transactions.

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Adrian Connor

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That's a really good point. I got hit with penalties because I thought my Hong Kong company was "dormant" but the IRS disagreed because of the legal fees I paid to shut it down. Does anyone know the exact threshold for what counts as activity that disqualifies you from using Rev Proc 97-20?

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Sean Kelly

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Rev Proc 97-20 defines "dormant" pretty strictly - the foreign corporation must have had no income, no expenses, no distributions, and no transfers during the tax year. Even minimal activity like paying dissolution fees, final government filings, or receiving any kind of distribution (including return of capital) disqualifies you from the simplified filing. The threshold is essentially zero activity. If there were ANY financial transactions, even small ones related to winding down, you need the full Form 5471. I learned this the hard way when my "dormant" Singapore company had $200 in final regulatory fees - that was enough to require all the schedules instead of just the simplified page 1 filing. For dissolution year specifically, you'll almost certainly need the full form since closing a company typically involves at least some financial activity, even if it's just paying final fees or formally distributing remaining assets (even if $0).

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Zoe Stavros

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Based on all the discussion here, it's clear your new accountant is correct - you do need to file a final Form 5471 for 2023 when you dissolved your Thai corporation. Your first accountant gave you incorrect advice. Since this involves a dissolution, you'll need more than just the Rev Proc 97-20 simplified filing. You'll need to file a complete Form 5471 with the "Final 5471" box checked, plus Schedule O to report the disposition of your interest in the corporation. Depending on your specific situation, you may also need Schedules B, E, and potentially others. The key thing to remember is that dissolution almost always involves some financial activity (legal fees, final filings, etc.) which disqualifies you from the simplified dormant corporation filing anyway. Even if those costs were minimal, any activity during the tax year means you need the full form. Don't delay on this - the $10,000+ penalties for missing Form 5471 are no joke, and they apply regardless of whether the corporation had significant activity. The IRS takes international reporting requirements very seriously. Get this filed as soon as possible, and make sure whoever prepares it marks it as a final return to avoid future filing obligations.

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Yara Sabbagh

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for summarizing everything so clearly! I'm definitely going to move forward with filing the final Form 5471. One last question: since I switched accountants and this needs to be filed late, should I expect any additional penalties beyond the standard $10,000 Form 5471 penalty? And is there a reasonable cause exception I might be able to claim given that my first accountant told me it wasn't required? The IRS reasonable cause provisions sometimes apply when you relied on professional advice, but I'm not sure if that would work in this situation since international forms seem to have stricter rules.

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