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Collins Angel

Can online tax software handle filing a dormant 5471 form for foreign corporations?

For the past few years, I've been shelling out money for professional tax preparation mainly because I need to file FBARs and a dormant 5471 for a foreign corporation. The potential penalties for messing these up are terrifying, so I figured better safe than sorry. But after looking at my filed forms for several years now, they're practically carbon copies year after year. Makes sense since the foreign corporation is completely dormant - it literally does nothing. The annoying part is that the only reason I'm keeping this corporation alive is because dissolving it would require filing a non-dormant 5471 for that final year, which I've been avoiding. I'm thinking about ditching the professional help and trying to handle this myself. From what I can see, most online tax software doesn't support 5471 forms - which is understandable for active corporations since those can get insanely complicated. But I'm wondering if any tax software out there specifically supports filing dormant 5471s? They're way simpler than active ones, so maybe there's software that can handle just that limited case? Has anyone had success with this?

Marcelle Drum

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I've been preparing international tax forms for clients for over 10 years, and I can understand your hesitation about doing this yourself. The good news is that dormant 5471s are indeed much simpler than active ones. Most mainstream tax software (TurboTax, H&R Block, TaxSlayer) doesn't natively support Form 5471, even dormant ones. However, there are a couple options you might consider. TaxAct Professional (not the consumer version) has some limited 5471 capabilities that might work for your dormant corporation situation. If you're comfortable with the form itself, you could also use the fillable PDF from the IRS website and just attach it to your return filed through regular tax software. The key with dormant 5471s is making sure you properly mark it as dormant (checking the appropriate box) and completing the minimum required sections, which typically include basic identification information and a few other schedules.

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Collins Angel

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Thanks for the insight. I didn't know about TaxAct Professional - is that something individual filers can use or is it only for tax professionals? And if I go the fillable PDF route, do most regular tax software packages allow for attaching additional forms? Would I just scan the completed 5471 and somehow link it to my electronic filing?

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Marcelle Drum

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TaxAct Professional is technically designed for tax preparers, but individuals can purchase it too - it's just more expensive than consumer versions and has a steeper learning curve. Most consumer tax software does allow you to attach PDFs to your return. You'd complete the 5471 PDF from the IRS website, save it, and then during the filing process, there's usually an option to attach "additional forms not supported by the software." The software will guide you through uploading your completed form. No need to scan anything if you're filling it electronically.

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Tate Jensen

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After struggling with international tax filing issues for years, I finally discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it's been a game-changer for handling specialized forms like dormant 5471s. I was in a similar situation with a foreign corporation that wasn't doing anything but still needed reporting. What's great about taxr.ai is that it analyzes your specific tax situation and guides you through exactly what needs to be filled out - even for specialized international forms. They have expertise in forms that most regular software completely ignores. The platform identified which specific schedules of my dormant 5471 actually needed completion and which could be safely left blank.

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Adaline Wong

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Does it actually populate the form for you or just tell you what to fill out? And can you file directly through their system or do you still need to use separate filing software? I've got a situation with a dormant Hong Kong company that's been costing me $800 a year in accounting fees just to file the stupid 5471.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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I'm skeptical about any software handling 5471s properly. I've seen even experienced CPAs mess these up. How confident are you that this system actually knows all the requirements? The penalties are insanely high if something gets missed or misfiled.

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Tate Jensen

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It actually populates the form based on the information you provide. It guides you through all the required sections for your specific situation and generates the completed form. You can then file it with your regular tax return through most tax software by attaching the generated PDF. The system was designed by international tax specialists specifically to handle complex forms like FBARs and 5471s. They keep it updated with all the latest IRS requirements and rule changes. I was skeptical too at first, but after comparing their output with what my accountant had done in previous years, everything matched up. The interface walks you through all the critical sections to ensure nothing gets missed.

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Adaline Wong

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Just wanted to update that I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and it actually worked perfectly for my dormant Hong Kong corporation! I was about to shell out $850 to my accountant again this year, but the software guided me through each section of the 5471 in plain English, explaining what was needed for a dormant entity specifically. It flagged the essential sections I needed to complete while clearly marking which parts I could skip due to the dormant status. The generated form was identical to what my accountant had produced in previous years, but I was able to do it myself. It even helped me with the FBAR filing too. Honestly wish I'd known about this years ago - would have saved thousands in accounting fees for what turned out to be a pretty straightforward process once properly explained.

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Peyton Clarke

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Are they somehow bypassing the queue or what?

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Vince Eh

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This sounds like BS honestly. Nobody can get through to the IRS these days, especially to specialized departments. I've tried calling about international forms multiple times and either wait for 3+ hours or get disconnected. How could a third-party service possibly fix that?

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It works by using their automated system that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree until it gets through to an agent. When a live person answers, you get a call connecting you directly to that IRS agent. It's not bypassing the queue - it's just handling the redial process automatically instead of you having to do it manually for hours. They don't have special access - they're just using technology to handle the frustrating part of the process. I was connected to the International Tax department within about 40 minutes, while I was doing other things. When I tried calling myself previously, I spent over 2 hours on hold before getting disconnected. The IRS agent I spoke with was super helpful once I actually got through to them.

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Vince Eh

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I need to eat some crow here. After being completely skeptical about Claimyr in my previous comment, I decided to try it anyway out of desperation because I had specific questions about my dormant 5471 that I couldn't find clear answers to anywhere online. To my genuine surprise, I got connected to an IRS international tax specialist in about 30 minutes. The agent walked me through exactly which schedules were required for my dormant entity and confirmed I could leave several sections blank. She even explained how to properly note the dormant status. What would have been several more hours of research and uncertainty turned into a 15-minute conversation that gave me complete confidence in what I was filing. I'm still shocked it actually worked after years of IRS phone frustration.

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Just FYI, I've been filing my own dormant 5471 for about 4 years now using the free fillable forms from the IRS website. It's not super user-friendly, but once you have a previous year's form to copy from, it's pretty straightforward if nothing has changed. The key is marking the dormant corporation box and completing Schedules B, E and the identifying information. I attach it to my regular TurboTax return as a PDF upload and haven't had any issues. Saved me about $1,200 a year compared to what my accountant was charging.

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Do you file an FBAR too? I'm comfortable with the 5471 part but nervous about the FBAR submission. I've heard those penalties are even worse if you mess up.

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Yes, I file FBARs too. They're actually easier than the 5471 in my opinion. FBARs are filed separately from your tax return through the FinCEN BSA filing system online. The form (FinCEN 114) is pretty straightforward for most people. The key things are reporting all foreign accounts where your name is on the account or you have signature authority, and making sure you're accurate about maximum balances. I keep a spreadsheet throughout the year tracking monthly balances to make sure I capture the true maximum. The online filing system at bsaefiling.fincen.treas.gov is actually fairly user-friendly compared to most government systems.

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Ezra Beard

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Does anyone know what happens if I just dissolve this foreign corporation without filing a final non-dormant 5471? I'm in a similar situation - keep paying to file forms for a dormant company because I'm afraid of the headache of dissolution. But it's been dormant for 8 years now - wondering if I can just let it go and stop filing.

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Don't do that! I tried something similar and got hit with a $10,000 penalty for failure to file the final 5471. The IRS is extremely serious about these international forms. You need to properly dissolve it and file the final forms correctly.

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Yara Khalil

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@Statiia Aarssizan is absolutely right - DO NOT just abandon the corporation without proper dissolution. The IRS treats missing final 5471s very seriously, and the penalties can be devastating. I've seen people get hit with penalties ranging from $10,000 to $60,000 for failure to file final forms. The proper dissolution process requires filing a final 5471 that's NOT dormant status, which means you'll need to complete more schedules and provide detailed information about the dissolution. It's more complex than the dormant filings you've been doing, but it's absolutely necessary to avoid massive penalties. If you've been successfully filing dormant 5471s for 8 years, you might want to consider just continuing that until you're ready to handle the dissolution properly. The cost of professional help for the final dissolution filing is much less than the potential penalties for not filing at all.

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Zoey Bianchi

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I've been dealing with a similar situation for the past 6 years with a dormant UK subsidiary. What finally convinced me to try doing it myself was realizing that my CPA was literally just copying the same information year after year - basically charging me $750 to update dates on an identical form. For anyone hesitant about the DIY approach, I'd recommend starting by comparing your last few years of filed 5471s. If they're nearly identical (which they should be for truly dormant entities), that's a good sign the form is straightforward enough to handle yourself. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're crystal clear on what "dormant" actually means to the IRS. My corporation had a small bank account that earned like $12 in interest one year, and I almost filed it as dormant when technically it wasn't. The interest income, even though tiny, would have made it non-dormant for that year. Caught it just in time after doing more research. The peace of mind from understanding exactly what you're filing (rather than just trusting someone else did it right) has been worth the effort for me.

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That's a really good point about the interest income! I hadn't thought about that - my dormant corporation also has a small bank account that probably earns a few dollars in interest each year. I've been filing it as dormant, but now I'm wondering if I should double-check those interest statements. Do you know what the threshold is for when interest income would make it non-dormant? Even $12 seems like it should still qualify as dormant in the grand scheme of things, but I guess the IRS probably has specific rules about this.

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