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Understanding Supplemental Retirement Plan, FICA Taxes, and W2 Box 11 vs Box 2 on FreeTaxUSA

Hey everyone, I'm really confused about my tax situation this year and could use some help! I work for a university and have a somewhat complicated benefits package that I don't fully understand. I'm a W2 employee with multiple retirement options through my employer. I have a standard 401k, plus this Supplemental Retirement Plan, and something called a Defined Contribution pension plan. I was entering everything into FreeTaxUSA and noticed something weird - the amount in Box 11 of my W2 is significantly higher than what's in Box 2. From what I understand, Box 11 shows non-qualified plans and Box 2 shows federal income tax withheld, but I'm not sure what this means for me tax-wise. Does this affect how my FICA taxes are calculated? Should I be concerned that Box 11 is so much larger than Box 2? I've tried reading through the FreeTaxUSA help section, but I'm still confused about how these different retirement plans impact my tax liability, especially when it comes to FICA taxes. Any guidance would be massively appreciated!

This is a really good question about retirement plans and how they interact with your W2! Box 11 on your W2 shows distributions from non-qualified plans, while Box 2 shows federal income tax withheld - these are completely different things, so having Box 11 larger than Box 2 isn't necessarily a problem. Your Supplemental Retirement Plan is likely a non-qualified deferred compensation plan, which means it doesn't have the same tax advantages as qualified plans like your 401k. The amount in Box 11 represents distributions made to you from this plan during the tax year. These distributions are generally subject to income tax when received and should be included in your total income. Regarding FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), contributions to non-qualified plans are typically subject to FICA taxes at the time the services are performed, not when distributed. This differs from qualified plans like 401ks where contributions can reduce your FICA taxable wages. FreeTaxUSA should handle this correctly if you enter your W2 information accurately. The software will account for the different tax treatments of your various retirement plans.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! So if I'm understanding correctly, the amount in Box 11 has already been included in my taxable wages in Box 1, right? Does this mean I'm essentially being taxed twice on this money - once when I earned it and again when I receive distributions? Also, does having multiple retirement plans (401k, Supplemental, and Defined Contribution) create any tax complications I should be aware of? I'm worried I might be hitting some kind of contribution limit I don't know about.

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The amount in Box 11 is for informational purposes only and isn't added to your taxable income again, so no double taxation is occurring. It's simply reporting distributions from non-qualified plans, which should already be properly reflected in your Box 1 wages. Having multiple retirement plans doesn't necessarily create complications, but you do need to be aware of contribution limits. For 2025, the combined elective deferral limit for 401(k) and similar plans is $23,000 ($30,500 if you're 50 or older). Your Defined Contribution pension likely has separate limits, as it's probably employer-funded. The Supplemental plan, being non-qualified, doesn't count toward these limits, which is actually a benefit if you're maxing out your qualified plans.

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Just a heads up from someone who works in payroll - the relationship between Box 11 and Box 2 on your W2 isn't necessarily meaningful. They represent completely different things! Box 11 shows distributions from non-qualified plans while Box 2 is federal income tax withheld. It's normal for Box 11 to be larger than Box 2 depending on your specific situation. The more important relationship to look at would be between Box 1 (wages) and Box 2 (withholding) to make sure you're having enough tax withheld. When using FreeTaxUSA, make sure you're entering all your W2 boxes correctly. The software should handle the proper tax treatment of your different retirement plans as long as you input everything accurately.

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So what exactly does Box 11 mean for my taxes then? My employer started a new supplemental retirement plan this year and suddenly I have a big number in Box 11 that wasn't there before. Should I be paying special attention to this when filing with FreeTaxUSA?

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Box 11 is primarily informational and shows distributions from non-qualified plans. These distributions are generally already included in your Box 1 wages, so you don't need to do anything special with the Box 11 amount when entering your W2 in FreeTaxUSA. When your employer started the new supplemental retirement plan, they began reporting those distributions in Box 11. The software will process this correctly as long as you enter all W2 information accurately. Just make sure you enter every box from your W2 into FreeTaxUSA, even if you're not sure what it means. The program is designed to handle these specific tax situations according to IRS rules.

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FreeTaxUSA actually handles these retirement plan situations really well. I've had a similar setup with multiple retirement accounts including a non-qualified supplemental plan for years. One thing to watch for - make sure when entering your W2, you click the "additional information" section to enter Box 11 data. Some tax software hides the less common boxes and if you don't specifically look for them, you might miss entering that information. Also, if you're concerned about FICA taxes, remember that contributions to qualified plans like 401k reduce your FICA wages, but contributions to non-qualified plans (probably your supplemental retirement plan) do not reduce FICA wages. That's just how the tax code works.

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Do you know if TurboTax handles this the same way? I've got a similar situation but I've always used TurboTax and don't want to switch software mid-tax season. Also, is there any way to check if my employer calculated the FICA taxes correctly?

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Yes, TurboTax handles this similarly - you'll just need to make sure you expand all the W2 entry fields to include Box 11. They sometimes hide the less common boxes under an "advanced" or "show more" section. To check if your employer calculated FICA taxes correctly, look at your last paystub of the year and verify the total Social Security tax is 6.2% of your earnings up to the wage base limit ($168,600 for 2025) and Medicare is 1.45% of all earnings (plus an additional 0.9% on earnings over $200,000). If your Supplemental Retirement Plan is non-qualified, contributions should not have reduced your FICA taxable wages. If something seems off, your HR or payroll department should be able to provide a detailed breakdown.

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I went through something very similar last year with my university benefits package! The key thing to understand is that Box 11 and Box 2 serve completely different purposes - comparing them directly doesn't really make sense. Box 11 shows distributions from your Supplemental Retirement Plan (which is likely a non-qualified deferred compensation plan), while Box 2 is just the federal income tax that was withheld from your paychecks throughout the year. The Box 11 amount represents actual money you received from the plan, which is why it can be much larger than your tax withholding. For FICA taxes, here's what matters: your regular 401k contributions reduce your FICA taxable wages, but your Supplemental Retirement Plan contributions typically don't. This is because non-qualified plans are subject to FICA taxes when you earn the money, not when you receive distributions later. When entering everything in FreeTaxUSA, make sure you input all the boxes from your W2 accurately - the software is designed to handle these multiple retirement plan scenarios correctly. The Box 11 amount should already be reflected in your Box 1 wages, so you won't be double-taxed on it. Your situation sounds completely normal for someone with multiple retirement benefits through a university!

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This is really helpful! I'm new to understanding retirement benefits and had no idea there was such a difference between qualified and non-qualified plans. So just to make sure I understand - when I contribute to my regular 401k, it reduces both my income tax AND my FICA taxes for that year. But when I contribute to the Supplemental Retirement Plan, I still pay FICA taxes on that money right away, even though I might not receive the distribution until later? Also, does this mean that when I eventually do receive distributions from my Supplemental plan (like what's showing in Box 11), I won't owe FICA taxes on those distributions since I already paid them when I earned the money originally?

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