U.S./Greece Dual Citizenship Tax Treaty: Reporting Worldwide Income

This is a common situation for dual citizens! The US-Greece tax treaty does help prevent double taxation, but you still need to file in both countries. First, Greece will primarily look at your tax residency status, which is determined by factors like physical presence (183+ days), permanent home, and center of vital interests. Since you live there full-time, you're definitely a Greek tax resident. When filing Greek taxes, you'll report your worldwide income, but you can claim a foreign tax credit for taxes already paid to the US on that same income. Greece will generally look at your federal taxable income that was actually subject to US tax. However, deductions available in the US might not be recognized in Greece. The treaty provides specific rules for different types of income (employment, dividends, royalties, etc.). If your income is considered US-sourced under the treaty definitions, you might qualify for reduced taxation in Greece. Keep in mind that Greece and the US calculate taxable income differently. The US has more generous deductions, which means your Greek taxable income might be higher even with the same gross income. I'd recommend finding an accountant familiar with both US and Greek tax systems who can help optimize your situation.

After struggling with exactly this situation last year, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it was seriously a lifesaver for sorting out the whole dual-country tax situation. I uploaded my US tax returns and Greek tax documents, and their system analyzed everything to show exactly what income had already been taxed by the US and what I could claim as foreign tax credits in Greece. The biggest help was figuring out which US deductions weren't recognized by Greece - turns out my retirement contributions that lowered my US taxable income weren't deductible in Greece, which explained why I kept coming up short! Their report broke down exactly how much additional tax I'd owe to Greece after accounting for the US taxes already paid.

Just wanted to update everyone here - I tried taxr.ai after posting my skeptical question. I was honestly surprised at how helpful it was for my Greece/US situation. The report showed that I was overpaying in both countries because I wasn't claiming the right treaty benefits in either place! What sold me was the detailed breakdown of exactly which income items were being taxed differently between the two countries. In my case, my freelance income was being treated as business income in Greece but self-employment in the US, which meant different deductions applied. They even provided specific forms and line references for both countries' tax declarations. I ended up saving over €2,000 by properly applying the tax treaty provisions. Wish I'd known about this two years ago when I first moved to Greece!

If you're having trouble reaching the Greek tax authorities about your situation (which I definitely did!), I used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) to get through to an actual human at the tax office. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was stuck in this loop of automated messages trying to get clarification on how my US investment income would be treated under the tax treaty, and after weeks of frustration, Claimyr got me connected to a representative in like 20 minutes. They stayed on hold for me and called when a real person was on the line. The tax officer I spoke with confirmed that I needed to provide my US tax transcript along with my Greek declaration to show taxes already paid, and explained exactly which forms to submit. Huge relief after months of uncertainty!

Well I take back what I said before. I finally broke down and tried Claimyr after another failed attempt to reach the Greek tax office myself. Within 35 minutes, I was talking to an actual tax specialist who spoke English! The person I reached explained that I needed to file a specific form with my Greek tax return that references the US-Greece tax treaty Article 23 (relief from double taxation). This wasn't mentioned anywhere on the tax authority website. They also clarified that I needed to convert my US tax documents to euros using the exchange rate on the last day of the tax year, which I had been doing incorrectly. No wonder my previous filings had been flagged for review! Definitely saved me from making the same mistakes again this year.

As someone who's been dealing with US/Greece taxes for 5+ years, here's what I've learned: 1) Find an accountant who specializes in BOTH systems. Most US accountants don't understand Greek taxes and vice versa. 2) Greece generally looks at your US taxable income, but they recalculate according to Greek rules. So all those nice US deductions might not help you in Greece. 3) Timing matters! US tax year is Jan-Dec but filing is in April, while Greek filing deadlines change every year (usually summer). This timing gap can create exchange rate headaches. 4) Keep track of the US-Greece tax treaty tiebreaker rules in case either country questions your residency status. 5) For online work, document which clients are US-based vs elsewhere since that can affect sourcing rules. Good luck! It gets easier after the first couple years once you have a system in place.

Something nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're also reporting your Greek bank accounts on your FBAR if they exceed $10,000 total! The penalties for not filing FBAR are ridiculous (like $10k+ per violation). Also watch out for PFIC rules if you've invested in any Greek investment funds. The US tax treatment is brutally complicated and can result in higher taxes.

This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation but with a twist - I've been using the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion on my US returns for the past two years, thinking it would simplify things. After reading through these comments, I'm realizing I may have made a huge mistake. If I understand correctly, since Greece doesn't recognize the FEIE, I'm essentially paying full Greek taxes on income I excluded from US taxation. This means I can't claim any foreign tax credits in Greece for US taxes I didn't actually pay. Has anyone here switched from using FEIE to paying full US taxes and claiming foreign tax credits instead? I'm wondering if I should revoke my FEIE election for next year, even though it means paying more to the US upfront. The math is getting really confusing when I try to figure out which approach actually costs less overall. Also, does anyone know if there are penalties for revoking FEIE once you've elected it? I've heard conflicting information about whether you need IRS permission to stop using it.

This thread has been incredibly enlightening! I'm a dual US/Greece citizen who just moved to Athens last month and I'm already stressing about next year's tax situation. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the complexity around Greek social security contributions. Since I'm self-employed with US clients (similar to the original poster), I'm trying to figure out if I need to pay into the Greek social security system (EFKA) on top of everything else we've discussed here. From what I've read, Greece requires self-employed residents to contribute to their social security system regardless of whether they're also paying US self-employment taxes. Has anyone dealt with this? The contribution rates seem pretty high (around 20% from what I've seen) and I'm not sure if there's any treaty relief for double social security taxation. Also, does anyone know if Greek social security contributions are deductible on your US tax return? I'm trying to budget for 2025 and between US taxes, Greek income taxes, and potentially Greek social security, I'm worried I'll be paying close to 50% of my income in various taxes and contributions! Any insights would be hugely appreciated - this community has already saved me from making some costly mistakes before I even start filing!

This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who's been dealing with dual US/Greece taxation for about 3 years now, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help newcomers avoid some common pitfalls: **Documentation is everything** - Keep detailed records of all your US tax payments, including quarterly estimated payments. Greece will want to see proof of taxes actually paid, not just what was owed. I learned this the hard way when they initially rejected my foreign tax credit claim because I only provided my tax return, not proof of payment. **Exchange rates matter more than you think** - Use the IRS published exchange rates for converting your Greek income to USD for US filing, and use the European Central Bank rates for converting US taxes to euros for Greek filing. Consistency is key, and using "official" rates helps if either country questions your calculations. **Consider the timing of estimated payments** - Since you're paying US estimated taxes throughout the year but filing Greek taxes after the year ends, you might want to slightly overpay your US estimates. This gives you more foreign tax credits to claim in Greece and reduces the risk of owing a large lump sum to Greece at filing time. **Professional fees are worth it** - I spent about €800 last year on a dual-taxation specialist, but they saved me over €2,500 in unnecessary taxes and penalties. The complexity isn't worth trying to handle alone, especially in your first few years. Hope this helps others navigate this maze a bit more smoothly!