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Evelyn Kim

Bringing cash to US after selling overseas property - Tax and declaration questions

So here's my situation - I'm an American citizen who recently sold my apartment in Greece where the economy has basically collapsed and their banking system is a total mess. I've got no choice but to physically fly there, collect the money in cash, and bring it back to the US myself. The apartment was my primary residence before I moved to the States about 4 years ago, so I haven't actually lived there since 2021. I've got a few questions I'm really confused about: - I'm planning to declare approximately $78K in cash when I go through US customs. Should I be worried about any complications or issues when entering with this much cash? - I know I need to pay taxes on capital gains, but this is actually a capital loss situation. What kind of documentation will the IRS accept as proof of the sale and proof of my capital loss? I have the sales contract translated to English that shows the sale amount in USD. I also have documentation showing what I originally paid when I bought the apartment with a bank loan years ago. I'm assuming the difference between these amounts shows my capital loss. Is a simple English translation of these documents sufficient? Or do I need to get special certification or stamps from the Greek government? Really appreciate any help with this confusing situation!

There are two separate issues here - customs reporting and tax implications. For the customs part: Yes, you need to declare any amount over $10,000 when entering the US using FinCEN Form 105 (CMIR). As long as the money is legitimately yours and you declare it properly, bringing $78K shouldn't cause major issues - but be prepared for additional questioning. Have all your documentation ready showing the source of funds (property sale documents). They may take extra time to verify everything, but carrying cash from a legitimate source isn't illegal if properly declared. For the tax aspect: You're correct this is likely a capital loss situation. The IRS will accept translated copies of your sale documents and original purchase documents. You don't typically need special government certification beyond a professional translation. Keep copies of: - Original purchase contract/mortgage documents - Final sale contract - Proof of any capital improvements you made to the property - Documentation of exchange rates at time of purchase and sale You'll report this on Schedule D and Form 8949 with your tax return. If this was your primary residence for at least 2 of the 5 years before sale, you might qualify for the Section 121 exclusion, but that applies to gains not losses.

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Thanks for the detailed answer. Quick question - does that $10,000 declaration requirement apply to all cash regardless of currency? Like if I have some euros and some dollars that total over $10k? Also, for the tax part - can the loss from an overseas property be used to offset other capital gains in the same tax year? I sold some stocks that did well and wondering if I could use the property loss against that gain.

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Yes, the $10,000 declaration requirement applies to the total value of all currencies combined, not just USD. So if you have euros, dollars, or any other currency that collectively exceeds $10,000 in value, you must declare the total. Customs will convert everything to USD equivalent for reporting purposes. Regarding offsetting gains with losses - absolutely. Capital losses from foreign property sales can offset capital gains from other sources like stocks in the same tax year. First, your foreign property loss will offset any other capital gains. If your total capital losses exceed your capital gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 of the excess loss against other income. Any remaining loss can be carried forward to future tax years.

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How is this different from just bringing your documents and declaring it yourself? Customs agents are required to process your declaration regardless, right?

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Don't forget about FBAR requirements too - if you had over $10k in foreign financial accounts at any point during the year (which it sounds like you did from the property sale), you need to file FinCEN Form 114. This is separate from your tax return and has pretty severe penalties if you miss filing it. Also, depending on which state you live in, there might be state tax implications for your foreign property sale too. Most states follow federal rules for capital gains/losses, but some have their own quirky requirements.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I completely forgot about the FBAR requirements. Do you know if the money from the property sale sitting in a foreign account temporarily (like for a few weeks before I traveled to pick it up) counts toward the $10k threshold? And are there any specific forms besides Schedule D and Form 8949 that I need for reporting the foreign property sale specifically?

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Yes, even if the money was only in a foreign account temporarily, it still counts toward the FBAR reporting threshold if the total value exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. The FBAR looks at the maximum value of your foreign accounts at any time during the calendar year, not just year-end balances. For your tax return, Schedule D and Form 8949 are the primary forms for reporting the capital loss from your property sale. You might also need to file Form 8833 if you're claiming benefits under a tax treaty between the US and Greece. Additionally, consider Form 926 if you're transferring property to a foreign corporation, though that doesn't sound applicable to your situation. Make sure to check for currency conversion documentation too - the IRS will want to see how you determined the USD value of transactions conducted in euros.

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Something important no one mentioned - make sure you're carrying your cash securely! When I brought back money from my property sale in Colombia, I used a special money belt and split the cash between different secure locations (some in carry-on, some on my person). $78k in cash is a significant target for theft. Also, call your bank ahead of time to let them know you'll be depositing a large cash amount. Some banks have filed suspicious activity reports for large cash deposits even when customers had documentation about the source.

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Great point about security! I'd also recommend not traveling alone if possible. When I brought back cash from selling my place in Thailand, my brother came with me on the trip just for added security. We also took different routes to the airport in Thailand just to be extra cautious.

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One more thing to consider - if you're flying with that much cash, check with your airline about their policies on carrying large amounts of money. Some airlines have specific procedures or restrictions, especially for international flights. Also, consider the timing of your deposit once you're back in the US - banks are required to report cash deposits over $10,000 to the Treasury, so having your property sale documentation ready when you make the deposit will help avoid any delays or additional questions from your bank's compliance department. I'd also suggest keeping a detailed travel log showing your movements and the chain of custody for the money, just in case you ever need to prove the legitimate source and timeline. The IRS appreciates thorough documentation, especially for international transactions.

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This is really helpful advice about airline policies - I hadn't thought about that at all! Do you happen to know if there are specific documentation requirements airlines look for when you're carrying large amounts of cash? I'm worried about potential issues during security screening or if airline staff ask questions during the flight. Also, regarding the travel log you mentioned - what specific details should I be documenting? Just dates and locations, or should I include things like exchange rates, who I met with for the sale, etc.? I want to make sure I have everything the IRS might want to see if they ever have questions about this transaction.

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This is exactly the kind of complex situation where proper documentation is crucial. A few additional considerations based on your timeline: Since you mentioned the apartment was your primary residence until 2021, make sure you have documentation proving when you moved to the US. The IRS may want to verify the timeline for any potential Section 121 exclusion eligibility, even though you're dealing with a loss. For the cash transport itself, I'd recommend getting a cashier's check or bank draft in Greece if at all possible, even if their banking system is problematic. Many Greek banks can still issue checks drawn on US correspondent banks, which would eliminate the security risks and customs complications of carrying physical cash. It's worth calling a few banks in Greece to explore this option before committing to the cash transport. If you must carry cash, document everything with photos - the original euros before conversion, any exchange receipts, and keep all currency conversion documentation. The IRS will want to see how you calculated the USD amounts for your capital loss, and having clear documentation of exchange rates used will be important. Also consider filing Form 8938 (FATCA) if your foreign financial assets exceeded the reporting thresholds at any point during the year. This is separate from FBAR but equally important for compliance.

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Great advice about exploring cashier's checks or bank drafts! I hadn't considered that Greek banks might still be able to issue checks drawn on US banks despite their current economic situation. That would definitely be much safer than carrying $78k in physical cash. @Amina Diop - Do you know if there are any specific Greek banks that are known to still offer this service to US citizens? I m'worried about spending time trying to arrange this and then finding out it s'not actually available given the state of their banking system. Also, regarding the Form 8938 requirement you mentioned - would the temporary holding of the property sale proceeds in a Greek bank account trigger this filing requirement even if the money was only there for a short period before I collected it? I m'trying to understand how many additional forms I might need to file beyond the Schedule D and FBAR that others have mentioned. The documentation approach with photos is smart - I ll'definitely do that if I end up having to transport cash. Better to have too much documentation than not enough when dealing with the IRS!

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Based on your situation, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help given the complexity of international property sales, FBAR requirements, and customs declarations all happening together. A few additional points that might help: **For the cash transport**: Contact the Greek consulate or embassy in your area - they often have updated lists of which Greek banks are still functioning normally for international services. Alpha Bank and National Bank of Greece have historically maintained correspondent relationships with US banks, but you'll need to verify current availability. **Currency conversion documentation**: Keep records of the exact exchange rates you use for converting your purchase price and sale price to USD. The IRS accepts rates from xe.com, oanda.com, or the Federal Reserve's daily rates. Consistency in your rate source is important. **State tax considerations**: Since you mentioned this was your primary residence before moving to the US, check if you established tax residency in your current state before the 2021 sale. Some states have different rules for capital losses from foreign property, and you may need to file amended returns depending on when you actually became a US tax resident. **Backup plan**: Given the amount involved, consider splitting your trip - make one trip to arrange banking/check solutions, then return for the actual money collection. The extra travel cost might be worth it for the added security and compliance simplicity. The documentation requirements everyone mentioned are spot-on, but don't underestimate the value of having everything organized professionally given the multiple agencies involved (customs, IRS, state tax authorities, and potentially FINCEN).

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