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Evelyn Kim

Bringing cash to US after selling overseas property - Tax and declaration questions

So here's my situation - I'm an American citizen who recently sold my apartment in Greece where the economy has basically collapsed and their banking system is a total mess. I've got no choice but to physically fly there, collect the money in cash, and bring it back to the US myself. The apartment was my primary residence before I moved to the States about 4 years ago, so I haven't actually lived there since 2021. I've got a few questions I'm really confused about: - I'm planning to declare approximately $78K in cash when I go through US customs. Should I be worried about any complications or issues when entering with this much cash? - I know I need to pay taxes on capital gains, but this is actually a capital loss situation. What kind of documentation will the IRS accept as proof of the sale and proof of my capital loss? I have the sales contract translated to English that shows the sale amount in USD. I also have documentation showing what I originally paid when I bought the apartment with a bank loan years ago. I'm assuming the difference between these amounts shows my capital loss. Is a simple English translation of these documents sufficient? Or do I need to get special certification or stamps from the Greek government? Really appreciate any help with this confusing situation!

There are two separate issues here - customs reporting and tax implications. For the customs part: Yes, you need to declare any amount over $10,000 when entering the US using FinCEN Form 105 (CMIR). As long as the money is legitimately yours and you declare it properly, bringing $78K shouldn't cause major issues - but be prepared for additional questioning. Have all your documentation ready showing the source of funds (property sale documents). They may take extra time to verify everything, but carrying cash from a legitimate source isn't illegal if properly declared. For the tax aspect: You're correct this is likely a capital loss situation. The IRS will accept translated copies of your sale documents and original purchase documents. You don't typically need special government certification beyond a professional translation. Keep copies of: - Original purchase contract/mortgage documents - Final sale contract - Proof of any capital improvements you made to the property - Documentation of exchange rates at time of purchase and sale You'll report this on Schedule D and Form 8949 with your tax return. If this was your primary residence for at least 2 of the 5 years before sale, you might qualify for the Section 121 exclusion, but that applies to gains not losses.

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Thanks for the detailed answer. Quick question - does that $10,000 declaration requirement apply to all cash regardless of currency? Like if I have some euros and some dollars that total over $10k? Also, for the tax part - can the loss from an overseas property be used to offset other capital gains in the same tax year? I sold some stocks that did well and wondering if I could use the property loss against that gain.

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Yes, the $10,000 declaration requirement applies to the total value of all currencies combined, not just USD. So if you have euros, dollars, or any other currency that collectively exceeds $10,000 in value, you must declare the total. Customs will convert everything to USD equivalent for reporting purposes. Regarding offsetting gains with losses - absolutely. Capital losses from foreign property sales can offset capital gains from other sources like stocks in the same tax year. First, your foreign property loss will offset any other capital gains. If your total capital losses exceed your capital gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 of the excess loss against other income. Any remaining loss can be carried forward to future tax years.

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I was in a similar situation last year when I sold my condo in Argentina and had to bring back about $65k in cash due to their banking restrictions. I found this amazing service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me sort through all the documentation requirements for both customs and tax reporting. They have specialists who understand international property transactions and can review your translated documents to ensure they meet IRS requirements. Their system analyzed my foreign property sale documents and identified specific deductions I could take related to the loss. They also provided me with a detailed report explaining exactly what I needed to declare at customs and what documentation would satisfy both customs agents and the IRS. Honestly saved me so much stress during an already complicated situation.

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How exactly does the taxr.ai thing work? Do you just upload your documents to them? I'm concerned about sharing financial documents online with a service I'm not familiar with.

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I'm looking at their site now... do they handle the actual filing for you or just advise on what to do? And how do they handle documents that aren't in English originally?

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The service is really straightforward - you upload digital copies of your documents to their secure portal. They use bank-level encryption and delete your files after analysis, so security isn't an issue. I was hesitant at first too but their privacy policy convinced me. They don't handle the actual tax filing for you - they provide detailed guidance on how to properly report everything. They give you a customized report explaining exactly what forms you need, what information goes where, and what supporting documentation to keep. In my case, they saved me from making mistakes that could have triggered an audit. For non-English documents, they have translators for major languages, but they can also work with documents you've already had translated. They'll analyze the translations for tax terminology accuracy and flag anything that might not meet IRS standards. They helped me understand which of my Spanish documents needed better translations before submitting to the IRS.

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Just wanted to follow up after using taxr.ai for my situation bringing money back from selling my father's house in Korea. It was actually really helpful! They reviewed my translated documents and pointed out several issues that would have caused problems with the IRS. They also created a custom letter explaining the source of funds that I showed to customs when declaring the cash. The customs officer actually commented that my documentation was unusually thorough and it made the process go much smoother than expected. When filing my taxes, I followed their guidance about reporting the capital loss and was able to offset some gains I had from stock sales last year. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with foreign property sales like this.

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I dealt with something similar when bringing back money from selling property in Mexico. One crucial tip - if you're planning to handle the customs declaration yourself, prepare for potentially long delays. I spent over 3 hours in secondary inspection despite having all my documents. I wish I had known about Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) before my trip. They specialize in helping people navigate customs declarations for large cash amounts from legitimate sources like property sales. You can see how their process works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They provide a preparation package with exactly what customs officers are looking for, and they can even arrange for someone to be available by phone during your entry if questions come up. This would have saved me so much stress at the airport.

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How is this different from just bringing your documents and declaring it yourself? Customs agents are required to process your declaration regardless, right?

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Sounds like a scam. Customs agents follow federal procedures. No external service can "arrange" anything with customs or give you special treatment. You just declare the money and answer their questions truthfully.

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It's not about special treatment or "arranging" anything with customs. It's about being properly prepared with the exact documentation format they prefer. When I declared myself, I had all the right information but not organized in the way they typically review it, which led to more questions and delays. The primary benefit isn't magical access - it's expert preparation. Claimyr provides templates and checklists specifically designed to match what customs officers are trained to look for, making their review process more efficient. They don't promise to eliminate inspection, just to make it smoother through proper preparation. To address the scam concern - they don't claim to have special connections or arrangements with customs. What they offer is preparation based on regulations and experience with what documentation format works best. The phone support is with their experts, not with customs directly - they help you answer questions accurately if you get confused during the inspection process.

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I need to follow up on my previous comment. I was skeptical about Claimyr but decided to try them before my trip back from selling property in Brazil last month. I'm honestly surprised at how much it helped. Their prep kit highlighted several documents I hadn't considered bringing (like bank statements showing the original wire transfers when I purchased the property years ago). They also provided a simple one-page summary sheet that organized all the information in exactly the format the customs agent needed. When I arrived and declared my cash (about $95K), I was still pulled aside for additional inspection, but it only took about 25 minutes instead of the hours I was dreading. The agent actually commented that my documentation was "refreshingly complete." I was wrong in my initial assessment - while they don't give you special access, they definitely know what they're doing when it comes to preparing for these declarations.

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Don't forget about FBAR requirements too - if you had over $10k in foreign financial accounts at any point during the year (which it sounds like you did from the property sale), you need to file FinCEN Form 114. This is separate from your tax return and has pretty severe penalties if you miss filing it. Also, depending on which state you live in, there might be state tax implications for your foreign property sale too. Most states follow federal rules for capital gains/losses, but some have their own quirky requirements.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I completely forgot about the FBAR requirements. Do you know if the money from the property sale sitting in a foreign account temporarily (like for a few weeks before I traveled to pick it up) counts toward the $10k threshold? And are there any specific forms besides Schedule D and Form 8949 that I need for reporting the foreign property sale specifically?

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Yes, even if the money was only in a foreign account temporarily, it still counts toward the FBAR reporting threshold if the total value exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. The FBAR looks at the maximum value of your foreign accounts at any time during the calendar year, not just year-end balances. For your tax return, Schedule D and Form 8949 are the primary forms for reporting the capital loss from your property sale. You might also need to file Form 8833 if you're claiming benefits under a tax treaty between the US and Greece. Additionally, consider Form 926 if you're transferring property to a foreign corporation, though that doesn't sound applicable to your situation. Make sure to check for currency conversion documentation too - the IRS will want to see how you determined the USD value of transactions conducted in euros.

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Something important no one mentioned - make sure you're carrying your cash securely! When I brought back money from my property sale in Colombia, I used a special money belt and split the cash between different secure locations (some in carry-on, some on my person). $78k in cash is a significant target for theft. Also, call your bank ahead of time to let them know you'll be depositing a large cash amount. Some banks have filed suspicious activity reports for large cash deposits even when customers had documentation about the source.

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Great point about security! I'd also recommend not traveling alone if possible. When I brought back cash from selling my place in Thailand, my brother came with me on the trip just for added security. We also took different routes to the airport in Thailand just to be extra cautious.

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One more thing to consider - if you're flying with that much cash, check with your airline about their policies on carrying large amounts of money. Some airlines have specific procedures or restrictions, especially for international flights. Also, consider the timing of your deposit once you're back in the US - banks are required to report cash deposits over $10,000 to the Treasury, so having your property sale documentation ready when you make the deposit will help avoid any delays or additional questions from your bank's compliance department. I'd also suggest keeping a detailed travel log showing your movements and the chain of custody for the money, just in case you ever need to prove the legitimate source and timeline. The IRS appreciates thorough documentation, especially for international transactions.

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This is really helpful advice about airline policies - I hadn't thought about that at all! Do you happen to know if there are specific documentation requirements airlines look for when you're carrying large amounts of cash? I'm worried about potential issues during security screening or if airline staff ask questions during the flight. Also, regarding the travel log you mentioned - what specific details should I be documenting? Just dates and locations, or should I include things like exchange rates, who I met with for the sale, etc.? I want to make sure I have everything the IRS might want to see if they ever have questions about this transaction.

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For airline documentation, most don't have specific requirements beyond what customs requires, but it's smart to have a summary letter explaining the source of funds readily accessible during travel. I kept mine in my carry-on with copies of the property sale documents. Security screening shouldn't be an issue since cash isn't prohibited, but be prepared for additional questions if they notice large amounts during bag checks. For your travel log, document: departure/arrival dates and times, exchange rates used for any currency conversions, names and contact info of people involved in the sale (real estate agent, lawyer, etc.), bank account details where money was held temporarily, and receipts for any transaction fees. Also note the specific denominations of cash you're carrying - customs sometimes asks about this. The key is creating a clear paper trail that shows legitimate business activity. I also recommend taking photos of your cash bundles before departure as additional evidence of proper handling. Keep all boarding passes and any hotel receipts from your trip too - it all helps establish the timeline if questions arise later.

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For airline policies, most don't have specific restrictions on carrying cash, but TSA screening can be more thorough if they detect large amounts during security checks. I'd recommend having a copy of your property sale documents in your carry-on bag separate from the cash itself - this helps explain the source if questioned. Some travelers also carry a brief letter explaining the situation, though it's not required. For your travel log, document: dates and times of key events (sale closing, cash pickup, departure/arrival), names of people involved (real estate agent, notary, etc.), locations where money was held, exchange rates used for any currency conversions, and method of transport for the cash. Also note any stops or layovers where the money was in your possession. The goal is creating a clear timeline that shows legitimate acquisition and transport. One additional tip - photograph or scan all your documents before traveling and store copies separately from the originals. If anything gets lost or damaged during travel, you'll still have backup documentation for both customs and the IRS.

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For airline policies, most don't have specific restrictions on carrying cash, but TSA may ask questions during security screening if they see large amounts in your carry-on. Having your property sale documents readily accessible (not packed deep in luggage) can help explain the source if questioned. Some travelers recommend keeping a summary letter explaining the situation. For your travel log, document: dates of all transactions, locations where money changed hands, names of parties involved (buyer, notary, bank representatives), exchange rates used for conversions, and methods of transport/storage. Also record when and where you counted the money, any stops you made, and arrival details in the US. Include photos of key documents and receipts. The more detailed your documentation, the better. The IRS appreciates seeing a clear paper trail, especially for large international cash transactions. This level of documentation also helps if customs or your bank has questions about the source and timeline of the funds.

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For airline policies, most major carriers don't have specific restrictions on carrying cash as long as you comply with TSA and customs regulations. However, I'd recommend calling your airline's customer service line ahead of time to ask about their procedures. Some airlines may want advance notice for very large amounts, especially on international routes. During security screening, TSA may ask you to verify the amount and source if they notice large quantities of cash during X-ray screening. Having your property sale documents in your carry-on (not checked luggage) will help answer any questions quickly. For your travel log, document: - Exact dates of property closing and cash collection - Exchange rates used (print screenshots from xe.com or similar) - Names and contact info of all parties involved (real estate agents, lawyers, notaries) - Photos of official documents with timestamps - Flight details and border crossing times - Any bank visits or currency exchanges The more detailed your documentation, the easier it will be to satisfy both customs and IRS requirements. Think of it as creating a complete paper trail that tells the story of your legitimate transaction from start to finish.

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For airline documentation, most don't have specific requirements beyond what customs requires, but it's smart to have your property sale documents easily accessible during travel. TSA may ask questions during security screening when they see large amounts of cash in X-ray machines. Having a brief summary letter explaining the source (property sale) can speed things up. For your travel log, document: dates of all transactions, locations where money changed hands, names of parties involved (buyer, real estate agents, notaries), exchange rates used for any currency conversions, and method of currency conversion (bank, exchange service, etc.). Also note the serial numbers or denominations of large bills if possible, and take photos of key documents with timestamps. The IRS values chronological clarity - they want to see a clear paper trail from property sale to cash collection to US entry to bank deposit. Think of it as creating a story that an auditor could easily follow years later if needed.

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For airline policies, most don't have specific cash limits but TSA will definitely scrutinize large amounts during security screening. Bring copies of your property sale documents in your carry-on - TSA agents may ask about the source of funds. Some airlines require you to declare valuable items over certain thresholds, so check your specific carrier's policies. For your travel log, document: exact dates of property sale completion, names of legal representatives involved, bank where funds were temporarily held, exchange rates used for USD conversion, flight details, and customs declaration details upon US entry. Also keep receipts for any fees paid during the transaction process. The key is creating a clear paper trail that shows legitimate business activity rather than suspicious cash movement. Include contact information for your Greek attorney or real estate agent in case IRS needs to verify details later.

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Based on your situation, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help given the complexity of international property sales, FBAR requirements, and customs declarations all happening together. A few additional points that might help: **For the cash transport**: Contact the Greek consulate or embassy in your area - they often have updated lists of which Greek banks are still functioning normally for international services. Alpha Bank and National Bank of Greece have historically maintained correspondent relationships with US banks, but you'll need to verify current availability. **Currency conversion documentation**: Keep records of the exact exchange rates you use for converting your purchase price and sale price to USD. The IRS accepts rates from xe.com, oanda.com, or the Federal Reserve's daily rates. Consistency in your rate source is important. **State tax considerations**: Since you mentioned this was your primary residence before moving to the US, check if you established tax residency in your current state before the 2021 sale. Some states have different rules for capital losses from foreign property, and you may need to file amended returns depending on when you actually became a US tax resident. **Backup plan**: Given the amount involved, consider splitting your trip - make one trip to arrange banking/check solutions, then return for the actual money collection. The extra travel cost might be worth it for the added security and compliance simplicity. The documentation requirements everyone mentioned are spot-on, but don't underestimate the value of having everything organized professionally given the multiple agencies involved (customs, IRS, state tax authorities, and potentially FINCEN).

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This is incredibly thorough advice! The suggestion about contacting the Greek consulate is brilliant - I wouldn't have thought to check with them about which banks are still operating normally for international services. @Benjamin Carter - Your point about potentially splitting the trip is really smart from a risk management perspective. The extra airfare might be worth it to avoid the stress and security risks of carrying that much cash. Plus, it would give me time to properly organize all the documentation you and others have mentioned. I m'definitely going to look into Alpha Bank and National Bank of Greece for the cashier s'check option. Even if it takes an extra week or two to arrange, that seems much safer than the alternative. The currency conversion documentation point is also really helpful - I hadn t'thought about needing to use consistent rate sources for both the purchase and sale conversions. I ll'make sure to use the same source probably (xe.com for) both calculations and keep screenshots of the rates on the actual transaction dates. Thanks to everyone in this thread - this has been incredibly educational and has probably saved me from making several costly mistakes!

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