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The Form 8283 instructions are super confusing and contradict each other... help?

I'm trying to finish up my taxes and I'm completely stuck on this Form 8283 situation. From what I can tell looking at the 1040, I need to fill out Form 8283 if my total for non-cash donations is more than $500. That part seems straightforward enough. But then when I look at the actual instructions for section A of Form 8283 (which is supposedly for the smaller value donations), everything gets super confusing and seems to contradict what the 1040 says. I donated a bunch of clothes, furniture, and household items to Goodwill throughout the year, and I've got receipts showing the total is around $650. Nothing individually worth more than maybe $100, but altogether it's over the $500 threshold. So do I need to itemize every single donation on the 8283? Or just the ones that push me over $500? And which section do I use - A or B? I've been going in circles reading the instructions and they seem to say different things in different places. Has anyone else dealt with this before? I'm using TurboTax but even their guidance seems vague on this specific situation.

The confusion around Form 8283 is pretty common, so don't worry! Let me clarify this for you. You're right that you need Form 8283 when your total non-cash charitable contributions exceed $500. Section A is for items (or groups of similar items) valued at $5,000 or less, while Section B is for items valued at more than $5,000. Since all your donations are well under $5,000, you'll only need to complete Section A. You don't need to itemize every single donated item individually - you can group similar items together (like "men's clothing" or "kitchen items"). The form requires you to provide the charity's information, a description of the donated property, the date of the contribution, date of acquisition, how you got the property, your cost basis, and the fair market value. For items acquired over 3 years ago, you can just check a box rather than providing the exact acquisition date.

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick question - do I have to fill out a separate 8283 for each donation trip to Goodwill? I went like 5 times throughout the year with different batches of stuff.

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You don't need to fill out a separate Form 8283 for each trip to Goodwill. You can use a single form and group similar items together from all your donations throughout the year. For the donation date, you can either list the dates of each trip or just use the date of your largest donation. Just make sure you have those individual receipts saved in your records in case of an audit.

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My tax preparer told me that for Form 8283, if all your individual items are under $250 each, you only need to list them as groups even if the total is over $500. So like "men's clothing - $200" and "household items - $300" etc. You shouldn't need to list every single item with individual values unless anything is worth over $250 by itself. The key is keeping good records with all your receipts in case you get audited. Most of the detailed info on the form is really meant for higher value donations where they're looking more closely.

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But doesn't the form specifically ask for acquisition date and how you acquired each item? How do you fill that out for a group of miscellaneous stuff collected over years?

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For grouped items with different acquisition dates, you can either use the earliest acquisition date of any item in the group or check the "acquired over 3 years ago" box if that applies to most items in the group. The IRS primarily wants this information for higher-value items where they're concerned about inflated valuations. For typical household donations, they're more focused on verifying you actually made the donations than tracing the history of each item. Just make sure your description clearly indicates these are grouped items (like "assorted men's clothing" rather than just "clothing").

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I'm finishing my taxes right now and had the same issue with Form 8283! I ended up calling my local H&R Block and they said the contradictory instructions are because the form is used for both simple and complex donation situations. For regular household donations to places like Goodwill or Salvation Army, even if the total is over $500, you can just list items by category (clothing, furniture, kitchenware, etc.) in Section A. You only need the detailed item-by-item breakdown for individual items worth over $500 each. The whole point of the form is to prevent people from claiming massive deductions for donated items without proper documentation. For normal household donations, they're not going to scrutinize every single t-shirt and coffee mug.

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This matches what I was told too. I was making this way harder than it needed to be last year. I just grouped my donations by type and date and it was totally fine.

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That's good to hear! I think a lot of us get stressed about these forms and overthink them. The IRS instructions try to cover every possible scenario which makes them seem more complicated than they need to be for typical situations. My tax person said as long as you're making a good faith effort to report accurately and have receipts to back up your donations, you're doing what you need to do. The detailed line-by-line reporting is really aimed at people donating artwork, jewelry, or other high-value items where valuation can be subjective.

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I went through this exact same confusion last year! The Form 8283 instructions are definitely poorly written and seem to contradict each other. Here's what I learned after going through it: Since your total non-cash donations are $650 and no individual item is worth more than $100, you'll use Section A only. You can absolutely group similar items together - so instead of listing every single shirt, you can put "men's clothing - $200" or "household items - $150" etc. The key things to remember: - You need Form 8283 because your TOTAL exceeds $500, not because individual items do - Section A is for items/groups valued at $5,000 or less - You can group similar items from multiple donation trips throughout the year - Keep all your Goodwill receipts as backup documentation The IRS instructions are confusing because they try to cover everything from simple household donations to complex artwork valuations in the same document. For your situation with typical household items, they're really just looking to make sure you have proper documentation and aren't inflating values. Don't overthink it - group your items by category, fill out the basic info, and you'll be fine!

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This is super helpful, thank you! I've been stressing about this for weeks. Just to confirm - when you say "group similar items," do you mean I can literally just write something like "miscellaneous clothing items - $300" even if that includes shirts, pants, jackets, etc. from different donation trips? Or do I need to be more specific like "men's shirts - $50, men's pants - $75" etc? Also, for the acquisition date field, what did you put when you had items you'd owned for different lengths of time? Some of my clothes are from years ago and some are more recent.

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