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Should we pay 10k tax bill all at once or set up an IRS payment plan? (and how to avoid underpayment next year?)

Title: Should we pay 10k tax bill all at once or set up an IRS payment plan? (and how to avoid underpayment next year?) 1 Hey tax folks, So my husband and I are kinda freaking out because our income jumped up quite a bit last year and now we're stuck with a $10,200 tax bill that we weren't expecting at all. We both have our W-4s set as married filing jointly and honestly thought the withholding would just automatically adjust based on our combined income. Apparently not! We're trying to figure out our best options here. First, would it make more sense to just bite the bullet and pay the whole amount now, or go with a payment plan? The full amount would be about 15% of our total savings, which feels like a lot to drain at once. Also, how do we make sure this doesn't happen again next year? I'm guessing we need to adjust our W-4s, but what exactly should we put for the "extra withholding" line? Neither of us is great with tax stuff so any advice would be super helpful!

8 First, don't panic! This happens to a lot of couples when their income increases, especially if both spouses work. The tax withholding tables assume each job is your only income, which creates a shortfall when combined. For your first question about paying now vs. payment plan - if you have the savings and it won't leave you financially vulnerable, paying the full amount immediately is usually best. Payment plans come with setup fees (around $31-$225 depending on method) plus interest (currently federal interest rate plus 3%) and penalties may apply. However, if parting with 15% of your savings would leave you without an emergency fund, a payment plan might be worth the extra cost for peace of mind. For preventing this next year, yes, updating your W-4 forms is exactly what you need to do. Since the 2020 redesign, there's a specific section (Step 2) for multiple jobs or working spouses. You have three options: use the IRS tax withholding estimator online, use the multiple jobs worksheet on the W-4, or simply check the box in Step 2(c) which applies a higher withholding rate. The easiest but least precise is checking the box. For more accuracy, the online estimator is your best bet.

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14 Thanks for the detailed response! For the W-4 adjustment, if we both check the box in Step 2(c), would that withhold too much? Should only one of us check it? Also, if I wanted to be super specific and just add an extra amount per paycheck, how would I calculate what that should be?

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8 Great question! Only one spouse should check the box in Step 2(c), not both, or you'll end up overwithholding. If you want to be more precise with additional withholding, take your $10,200 shortfall and divide by the number of pay periods remaining in the year between both of you. So if you each get paid twice a month (24 times each per year), and it's early in the year, you'd have about 48 total pay periods. $10,200 ÷ 48 = $212.50. You could then put an extra $213 on one W-4 or split it between both (like $106 extra on each person's form in Step 4(c)). The IRS withholding calculator at irs.gov/W4App will do these calculations for you and is even more accurate since it accounts for your specific tax situation.

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17 I'll add another perspective - we were in a similar situation last year (owed about $13k) and we chose the payment plan route. Here's what happened: - Setup fee was $149 for the online payment plan - We did a 72-month plan with automatic payments - We're paying about $200/month plus interest - In total we'll pay about $2,400 in interest over the life of the plan Honestly, we could have paid it all at once but decided to keep our cash reserves intact. With interest rates being what they are on savings accounts and investments, mathematically it made more sense for us to pay over time and keep our money working for us. Just another option to consider!

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4 Did the IRS require any financial documentation for you to get approved for the 72-month plan? I've heard they want to see bank statements and stuff for the longer payment plans.

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17 Nope! For our amount (under $50,000), we didn't have to provide any financial documentation at all. The process was surprisingly simple through the IRS online payment agreement tool. We just entered some basic information, chose the payment terms, set up the automatic payments from our bank account, and were approved instantly. The documentation requirements typically kick in either for very large tax debts or if you're trying to establish that you can't afford the minimum payment amounts. For a standard installment agreement under the $50K threshold, it's a pretty streamlined process designed to get you paying something rather than nothing.

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9 One thing nobody's mentioned - you should still file your return on time even if you can't pay the full amount! The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. Also, if this is your first time owing a substantial amount, you might qualify for first-time penalty abatement. You'd still pay interest, but the IRS might waive the penalties if you've had a good compliance history in previous years.

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14 How do you request this first-time penalty abatement? Is it something you have to ask for specifically or does the IRS automatically consider it?

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23 Just my two cents: make sure you check if your state taxes were also affected! We fixed our federal withholding after a similar situation but completely forgot about state taxes and got hit with another bill the following year. Now we have extra withholding for both federal AND state.

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1 That's a really good point! We hadn't even thought about the state taxes yet. We'll definitely look at both W-4 and state withholding forms. Thanks for the reminder!

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15 I was in almost the exact same situation last year - dual income household, both filed as married filing jointly, and got smacked with an $8,400 bill we weren't prepared for. Here's what we learned: **Payment decision:** We ended up doing a hybrid approach. We paid about 60% immediately to reduce the principal amount that would accrue interest, then set up a 24-month payment plan for the remainder. This kept our emergency fund mostly intact while minimizing the total interest we'd pay. **For next year:** The W-4 redesign in 2020 really helps with this! We used the IRS withholding estimator (it's actually pretty user-friendly) and discovered we needed to add about $180 per paycheck in additional withholding. We split this between both our W-4s - I put an extra $90 on mine, my spouse did the same. **Pro tip:** Run the withholding calculator again mid-year, especially if either of you gets a raise, bonus, or job change. Income changes throughout the year can throw off your projections. The peace of mind from getting this fixed is totally worth the effort. We're actually on track for a small refund this year instead of another surprise bill!

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That hybrid approach sounds really smart! I hadn't thought about paying part of it upfront to reduce the interest-bearing amount. Quick question - when you used the IRS withholding estimator, did it account for things like standard deduction and child tax credits automatically, or did you have to input those separately? We have two kids and I want to make sure we're not overwithholding because of credits we'll get anyway.

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