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Amara Adebayo

Should IRS tax me on Oracle (ORCL) acquisition of Cerner (CERN) when stocks auto-transferred? (CP2000 Question)

So I just got hit with a CP2000 notice from the IRS and I'm really confused. I used to work for Cerner (ticker CERN) and participated in their employee stock purchase program through Morgan Stanley where a percentage of each paycheck automatically went toward buying company stock. When Oracle (ORCL) acquired Cerner a while back, all my CERN shares automatically converted to ORCL shares. I literally didn't do anything - it just happened automatically through Morgan Stanley. No selling, no buying, just one day they were CERN and the next they were ORCL. Now the IRS is claiming in this CP2000 notice that this conversion was a taxable event and I owe them money! This makes no sense to me because I didn't actually sell anything or realize any gains. The stocks just changed their ticker symbol basically. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Do I really owe taxes just because one company bought another and my shares converted? I thought taxes were only triggered when you actually sell stocks and realize gains, not when they automatically convert during an acquisition.

This is actually a common misunderstanding. In most corporate acquisitions like Oracle buying Cerner, the conversion of shares is typically NOT a taxable event - it's considered a "reorganization" under tax code section 368. The CP2000 notice likely happened because of reporting confusion. When shares convert like this, sometimes the brokerage (Morgan Stanley) reports it incorrectly to the IRS, making it look like you sold CERN and bought ORCL, when in reality it was just an automatic conversion. You should gather documentation showing this was part of the acquisition. Look for statements from Morgan Stanley showing the direct conversion rather than separate sell/buy transactions. The acquisition terms should have specified this was a tax-free reorganization. Write a response to the CP2000 explaining this was a tax-free reorganization under section 368, not a sale. Include your documentation and note your cost basis for the CERN shares transferred to your ORCL shares.

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Amara Adebayo

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Thanks for this explanation! That makes so much sense. I was totally confused because I didn't actually sell anything and there was no cash involved in the transaction at all. Do you think I should call the IRS first or just send in the written response with documentation? And should I get something specific from Morgan Stanley that explicitly states this was a conversion rather than a sale?

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I'd recommend preparing the written response first with all your documentation. Get a statement from Morgan Stanley specifically showing the share conversion as part of the acquisition - most brokerages can provide this. Their transaction history should show it wasn't a sale and purchase but a direct conversion. You can call the IRS to discuss, but having your documentation ready first is important. The IRS response line listed on your CP2000 is your best contact. Explain briefly that this was a tax-free reorganization, not a sale, and that you're sending documentation to support this.

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Miguel Castro

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Another angle to consider - check if you received any cash in lieu of fractional shares during the conversion. Sometimes during these acquisitions, if the conversion ratio doesn't result in whole shares, you'll get cash for the fractional parts, and THAT portion IS taxable. For example, if the conversion was 1.25 ORCL shares for each CERN share, and you had 10 CERN shares, you'd get 12 ORCL shares plus cash for the 0.5 share. Check your Morgan Stanley statements carefully to see if this might be what the IRS is actually flagging.

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Amara Adebayo

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Good point! I just double-checked my statements and there was actually a small cash payment of $37.42 for a fractional share. But the CP2000 is claiming I owe taxes on the entire value of all converted shares, not just this tiny cash amount. Could this small cash payout be why the entire transaction got flagged?

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Miguel Castro

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Yes, that's exactly what probably happened! The cash-in-lieu payment triggered a report to the IRS, but then the entire transaction got mischaracterized. This is super common. Your response to the CP2000 should acknowledge this small taxable amount (the $37.42) but explain that the remainder of the transaction was a tax-free reorganization. Include your Morgan Stanley statements showing both the share conversion and the small cash payment. The IRS should adjust their proposed assessment to only tax the cash portion, which would be a much smaller amount than what they're currently claiming.

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Make sure you keep records of your original cost basis for those CERN shares! Even though the conversion itself isn't taxable, you'll need that information when you eventually sell the ORCL shares. Your basis carries over from the CERN shares. I made this mistake during a similar situation and had a nightmare trying to calculate my gains when I sold years later. Morgan Stanley should have this info, but in my experience, it sometimes gets lost in these conversions.

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This is such a good point. I went through an acquisition with Exxon back in 2019 and completely lost track of my original basis. Had to pay an accountant $500 to reconstruct everything when I sold some shares last year. Save yourself the headache!

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