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Had this exact issue with Gemini last year. My suggestion is to do BOTH - keep working with the IRS AND file with Tax Court before your deadline. Filing with Tax Court costs $60 and gives you insurance in case the IRS process drags out (which it probably will). I made the mistake of trusting the IRS would resolve my issue in time, and when they didn't, I lost my right to challenge without paying first. I ended up having to pay the full amount ($11k!) and then file for a refund, which took another 8 months to process. Don't make my mistake!
That's really helpful to know about your experience. How difficult was the Tax Court filing process? Did you end up needing a lawyer or were you able to do it yourself?
The Tax Court filing was actually pretty straightforward. I used the simplified procedure since my dispute was under $50k. The petition form is available on the Tax Court website, and it's mostly just explaining what the IRS got wrong and why. I did it myself without a lawyer. You basically need to state the facts clearly - that the crypto exchange reported incorrect information, what the correct numbers should be, and what evidence you have. Include copies of your documentation with the petition. One tip: be very specific about the error. In your case, explain that the exchange reported the full value as gain instead of just the interest earned, and provide your actual purchase records showing your cost basis.
Nobody's mentioned an important option - requesting audit reconsideration AFTER the 90-day window expires. If your deadline is too close and you don't want to file with Tax Court, you can still dispute the assessment later through audit reconsideration. The downside is you may have to pay the tax first and then request a refund, but it's an option if you miss the Tax Court deadline.
Audit reconsideration is a terrible approach for this situation! Why would you voluntarily give up your Tax Court rights when that's literally the best protection you have? Paying thousands in taxes you don't owe and then HOPING the IRS gives it back through audit reconsideration is a recipe for disaster.
One thing to keep in mind with those 1098-T forms: Make sure the amounts listed in Box 1 (payments received) and Box 5 (scholarships/grants) are accurate. My college reported my scholarships correctly but completely messed up the amount I actually paid for tuition. I had to contact the school's financial aid office to get it corrected before my parents could claim the education credit. Sometimes schools report the amounts billed rather than amounts actually paid, which can cause problems.
I hadn't even thought about checking if the amounts are correct! Where exactly would I find Box 1 and Box 5 on the form? And if something isn't right, do I just call the financial aid office?
Box 1 is near the top of the form labeled "Payments received for qualified tuition and related expenses" and Box 5 is labeled "Scholarships or grants." Compare those amounts to your actual payment records and financial aid statements. If you notice a discrepancy, yes, call your school's financial aid office or sometimes they have a dedicated bursar or student accounts office. Explain the issue and ask them to issue a corrected 1098-T. They're usually pretty good about fixing these errors since they're required by law to report accurate information to the IRS.
Gonna add something important that nobody mentioned - KEEP THESE FORMS FOREVER! Seriously. I needed my college 1098-Ts from 5 years ago when I got audited, and it was a nightmare tracking them down after my college portal access expired. Download PDFs of all three years and store them somewhere safe - Google Drive, Dropbox, whatever. Email copies to yourself and your parents too. Tax docs should be kept for at least 7 years.
For anyone still confused about the half-time requirement for AOC: I'm a tax preparer and this comes up all the time with apprenticeship programs. The key is understanding how your specific college calculates "full-time" status. Community colleges typically consider 12-15 credit hours per semester as full-time, so half-time would be 6-7.5 credits. But here's the tricky part - some apprenticeship programs have special arrangements where your hands-on training hours also count toward your academic credits. Check with both your apprenticeship coordinator AND the college registrar to see if your total program (classroom + practical training) meets the half-time threshold. Many apprentices miss out on this credit because they only count the classroom hours.
This is super helpful! My program coordinator mentioned something about the practical hours counting toward credits but I didn't connect that to the tax implications. Does that mean I should include all my apprenticeship hours and not just the classroom time when figuring out if I meet half-time status?
Yes, absolutely include all hours that the college is counting toward your credits or certificate. Many apprenticeship programs are structured so that your on-the-job training hours translate to a certain number of credits in addition to your classroom time. For example, I had a client whose 4-week classroom portion only equated to 4 credits, which wouldn't meet the half-time requirement. But when we included the supervised work experience that was part of the program curriculum (which added another 4 credits), they qualified for AOC. The key is that these work hours must be formally recognized by the educational institution as part of your academic program.
Anyone know if this AOC thing applies to online courses too? My apprenticeship has us doing 3 weeks in person and then 4 weeks of online modules. Tax software keeps asking me the same question about half-time workload and im stuck.
Yes, online courses absolutely count toward your workload calculation for AOC purposes as long as they're part of your eligible program and offered by a qualifying educational institution. The IRS doesn't distinguish between delivery methods (online vs. in-person) when determining eligibility. What matters is the credit hours or equivalent as determined by your educational institution. For your situation with 3 weeks in-person plus 4 weeks online, you'd need to find out how many total credits/units that represents at your institution and whether it meets their half-time threshold.
For next year, just use a tax service that can handle both federal AND state from the beginning. Cash App is convenient but super limited. I use H&R Block online and they make it really easy to do both together. Just my two cents after doing my own taxes for like 10 years.
Does H&R Block have a free version? Cash App and FreeTaxUSA are appealing because they offer free or really cheap filing options. I don't want to spend $50+ on tax prep if I can avoid it.
H&R Block does have a free version but like all the "free" tax services, it's only free for simple returns. If you have anything slightly complicated (investment income, self-employment, itemized deductions, etc.), you'll end up having to upgrade to a paid version. Honestly, FreeTaxUSA is probably your best bet for affordable filing - their federal filing is free and state is only like $15. Cash App might be convenient for banking, but as you've discovered, it's pretty limited as a tax service. Whatever you choose, just stick with ONE service next year to avoid this headache!
Just wondering - did you have any major life changes or special tax situations this year? I had a similar issue where I had to file federal and state separately because of a move between states halfway through the year. ended up using two different services but made it work. might help to know your specific situation.
Nothing complicated really - just standard W-2 income from one job and some basic interest income from my savings account. No major life changes or anything fancy. I just got lured in by Cash App's free filing and didn't realize they couldn't do my state taxes until after I'd already submitted the federal return.
Cynthia Love
My rule of thumb: always withhold a little extra if you're married filing separately. The withholding tables just don't seem calibrated well for this filing status. For a $68k salary paid biweekly, I'd probably put an extra $50-75 per paycheck in line 4(c). Better safe than sorry!
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Darcy Moore
ā¢Thanks for all the advice everyone! Quick question - if I put that extra amount on line 4(c), will that just reduce my paycheck by exactly that amount? Or does it calculate differently?
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Cynthia Love
ā¢Exactly right - whatever dollar amount you put on line 4(c) will be withheld from each paycheck as an additional amount. So if you put $50, your paycheck will be $50 less each time, and that money goes straight toward your federal tax.
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Darren Brooks
Has anyone considered just adjusting your W4 halfway through the year if you notice you're not withholding enough? That's what I do. I start conservative, then check the IRS withholding calculator again around June and make adjustments if needed.
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Rosie Harper
ā¢This is actually really smart. I never thought of doing a mid-year correction. Do you just submit a new W4 to your HR department?
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