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Will Trump's plan to eliminate income taxes and implement a tariff-based system actually happen?

So Trump has been talking about this idea of completely getting rid of income taxes and replacing them with tariffs. I'm really trying to understand if this is just campaign talk or if it could actually happen. Like, can a president even make that kind of massive change to our tax system? I'm concerned about what this would mean for the average person. If there's no income tax, does that mean I'd keep my whole paycheck? But then wouldn't everything I buy be way more expensive with all these tariffs? I work in retail management, and I'm just imagining what this would do to prices in our stores. And what about all the people who work in tax preparation? That's a huge industry that employs tons of people. Would they all just lose their jobs overnight? My cousin works at H&R Block and I'm worried about her future if something like this happened. Has anything like this ever been tried before? I feel like this would completely upend our entire economy. Would love to hear thoughts from people who understand economics and tax policy better than I do.

Everyone's missing a key point here. The Constitution explicitly gives Congress the power to levy taxes, not the president. Article I, Section 8 states that "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises." A president can propose tax policy but cannot implement it without Congress passing legislation. The 16th Amendment, which enables income tax, would potentially need to be addressed as well. Also, historically, before income tax became the primary federal revenue source, tariffs WERE the main funding mechanism for the federal government. But that was a much smaller government with far fewer programs and obligations.

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Interesting historical context! How high were tariffs back then compared to what we might need today to fund the modern government? And didn't high tariffs cause problems that eventually led to creating income tax in the first place?

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Before income tax became permanent in 1913, tariff rates varied widely but sometimes exceeded 40-50% on many imported goods. However, the federal government was drastically smaller then - no Social Security, Medicare, modern military, or many other major expenditures we have today. You're absolutely right about the historical problems. High tariffs like the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 contributed to trade wars and economic problems. The core issue is that tariffs are essentially taxes on consumption that disproportionately affect everyday purchases. This regressive nature was one reason the progressive income tax system was developed - to tie tax burden more closely to ability to pay rather than consumption needs. Moving entirely back to tariffs would fundamentally shift tax burden distribution across different income levels.

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I work in international logistics and I can tell you tariffs aren't just a simple tax that gets applied. It's incredibly complex with different classification codes, country-of-origin rules, trade agreements, and exemption processes. My company deals with imports from 12 different countries, and even the existing tariff system requires multiple full-time compliance specialists. If tariffs became our primary tax system, the compliance burden on businesses would be enormous. Also, companies would change behavior to avoid tariffs - more domestic manufacturing (potentially good) but also complex corporate structures to exploit loopholes and trade agreement differences (definitely complicated).

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Do you think it would create jobs though? Like all that new manufacturing you mentioned plus all the compliance people? Might balance out the lost tax preparer jobs?

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Got a letter from IRS saying I need to use their tax withholding calculator to fix my W-4 - facing $500 fine

Hey everyone, Just want to make sure I'm handling this correctly. I updated my W-4 back in January 2025 because I noticed our federal tax withholding was too low. Today I got this letter from the IRS telling me to use their tax withholding calculator to fix my W-4. They're threatening a $500 penalty if I don't make the adjustments they're recommending. I went ahead and used their calculator, and it says I need to add about $1,600 on line 4c of my (husband's) W-4 for additional withholding. Our situation is: - We have two kids (5 and 8) - Paying roughly $40,000 in mortgage interest yearly - Property taxes around $4,100 and local taxes about $2,500 Husband's W-4: - Makes $110,000 annually (paid twice monthly) - Selected "Married filing jointly" - Currently no extra withholding - YTD federal withholding: $3,522.45 - YTD 403(b) contributions: $2,042.75 - YTD HSA contributions: $1,890.50 My W-4: - I make $70,000 yearly (biweekly pay) - Also "Married filing jointly" - Already have $300 extra withholding (line 4c) - YTD federal withholding: $4,780.15 - YTD retirement: $1,250.40 Any advice on what I should do? Is the IRS typically serious about these penalties? Thanks!

One thing nobody has mentioned yet - check if you can adjust your withholding for the remainder of the year instead of making it permanent. My wife and I had a similar situation and our payroll department let us do a one-time additional withholding to catch up for the year. We just submitted a request to take an extra $3000 out of one paycheck (split between both of us) rather than changing the W-4 permanently. Might be less paperwork if your employer allows it!

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That's a great suggestion! I didn't know you could do a one-time withholding adjustment. Would I just ask our HR department about this option?

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Yes, exactly! Just reach out to your HR or payroll department and ask if they allow one-time additional withholding requests. Most larger companies have a form for this. It's sometimes called a "one-time deduction request" or "special payroll deduction." The advantage is you don't have to remember to change your W-4 back later, and you can handle the entire under-withholding issue in one shot instead of spread across multiple paychecks. Just make sure to keep a copy of whatever form you submit and follow up to confirm it was processed correctly!

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Don't forget to recheck your W-4s in January! I made this mistake - fixed my withholding after getting a similar letter, but then forgot to update it for the new year and ended up in the same situation again. The IRS withholding calculator becomes available with updated tax tables usually by early February each year. I now put a reminder in my calendar to check our withholding quarterly.

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Echoing this! I set a calendar reminder for February 15th every year to redo the withholding calculator. Tax brackets adjust annually for inflation, plus life changes like raises, new dependents, etc. can all impact your needs.

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Best practices for record-keeping for a small ice cream business before obtaining a business license?

So my roommate has been making homemade ice cream as a hobby for a while, and it's honestly amazing. People have started asking to buy pints from him, and he's been selling to friends and their friends for the past few months. He's using the money to buy ingredients for the next batches and saving up to eventually get proper equipment and file for a business license. Right now, he's keeping all receipts for ingredients, containers, etc., and tracking every sale in a spreadsheet. His plan is to have complete records when he eventually files taxes for his first official year in business. He's made about $2,800 so far and spent around $1,900 on supplies. I'm worried this paper trail might actually cause problems if someone reports him for operating without a license. Would he be better off not keeping any records until he's officially licensed? He absolutely wants to do everything legally and pay proper taxes - he's just trying to build up enough capital to make filing worth it. Also, is there any legal way for someone to "test the market" with small sales before committing to the full business registration process? He wants to make sure there's enough demand before investing in all the licensing and equipment. The last thing he wants is trouble with the IRS or local business authorities.

For food businesses specifically, you really need to check your local cottage food laws. Many states allow small-scale food production from home kitchens up to certain income thresholds before requiring commercial licensing. In my state, you can sell up to $25,000 of homemade food items annually under cottage food laws without needing a commercial kitchen, though you still need a basic food handler's permit and to follow labeling requirements. Ice cream might be trickier though, as dairy products often have stricter regulations.

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That's really helpful! Do you know if cottage food laws would protect him from potential tax issues too, or is that a completely separate concern? And would money made under cottage food laws still need to be reported as income?

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Cottage food laws and tax requirements are completely separate issues. Cottage food laws just regulate food safety and allow you to legally sell certain foods from your home kitchen - they don't exempt you from tax obligations. Regardless of whether you're operating under cottage food laws or not, all income needs to be reported on your tax return. While operating under cottage food laws, you'd still report the income on your personal tax return. You could potentially file a Schedule C as a sole proprietor even without formally registering a business name with your state, which would allow you to deduct legitimate business expenses. Many cottage food operators start this way before formally establishing an LLC or other business entity.

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OP, I did something similar with beard oil I made. Started selling to friends, then friends of friends. My advice: separate bank account ASAP! Even if it's just a second personal account. I got absolutely wrecked at tax time trying to separate personal and business transactions from one account.

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This is seriously underrated advice. I use a completely separate credit card for ALL business purchases, even tiny ones. Makes tracking expenses 100x easier and looks much more legitimate if there are ever questions.

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How do I properly report income from apps that generate Bitcoin on my taxes?

So I've been using a couple of apps on my phone that generate small amounts of Bitcoin while I'm not actively using my device. They basically use my extra processing power and I get rewarded with crypto. Nothing major - probably made around $780 over the past year. I've never had to deal with crypto on my taxes before and I'm super confused about how to report this income. Do I report it as self-employment income? Or is it considered capital gains? I don't even have any tax forms from these apps, they just deposit the BTC directly to my wallet. I also have no idea what basis price to use since the value fluctuates and I'm getting tiny amounts throughout the year. If anyone has experience with this or knows how to handle crypto income from these mining/earning apps, I'd really appreciate some guidance before I file!

One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you're making under $1,000 in crypto from these apps, you might not need to file quarterly estimated taxes, but you'll still need to report the income on your annual return. I learned this the hard way last year when I got hit with a small penalty for not making quarterly payments on my mining income.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I didn't even think about quarterly taxes. How do you calculate how much you need to pay each quarter? Is there a minimum threshold before you have to start doing that?

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You generally need to pay quarterly estimated taxes if you expect to owe at least $1,000 in taxes for the year after subtracting withholdings and credits. The IRS has a "safe harbor" rule where you won't face penalties if you pay at least 90% of the current year's tax liability or 100% of the previous year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000). For calculating the amount, you'd take your expected crypto income, combine it with any other self-employment income, then calculate the tax (including self-employment tax) and divide by four for each quarter. The deadlines are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year.

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Don't forget you can deduct expenses related to your mining! If you're using apps that use your phone's processing power, you can potentially deduct a portion of your phone cost, electricity used to keep it charged, and maybe even part of your data plan if it's using data. This can offset some of that self-employment tax burden.

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Can you really deduct part of your phone bill? How would you even calculate what percentage is used for mining vs regular use? I'm using one of these apps too but it seems hard to document.

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Can I claim private school tuition on taxes when alternating years claiming dependent with ex?

So my ex and I have a 50/50 custody arrangement for our 3-year-old son, and we alternate claiming him as a dependent on our taxes. This year (2024) is her turn to claim him, but here's the situation - I paid 100% of his Montessori school tuition in 2023 (about $14,500), and she didn't contribute anything toward his education costs. My ex has already told me she's not going to claim any of the tuition I paid when she files. What I'm trying to figure out is: even though I can't claim my son as a dependent this year, can I still claim the tuition I paid for his private school on my 2024 tax return? I'm also wondering if I could combine both the 2023 tuition I already paid AND the 2024 tuition I'm currently paying on this year's taxes since she's not claiming either of them. Just trying to get some benefit from these massive education expenses when I'm the only one covering them.

One important thing no one has mentioned yet - make sure you're getting Form 8832 from the Montessori school with their tax ID number and payment information. You'll need this to properly document the childcare expenses for the Child and Dependent Care Credit. Also, there are income limits and maximum credit amounts to be aware of. For one child, the maximum expenses you can claim is $3,000 per year (or $6,000 for two or more children). The actual credit percentage depends on your income level.

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Thanks for mentioning the form! Quick question - is it Form 8832 or did you mean something else? I've been looking online and Form 8832 seems to be related to business entity classification, not childcare expenses. Is there a different form number I should be asking my son's Montessori for?

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You're absolutely right, I made a mistake with the form number. I meant to say that you should get documentation from the childcare provider, which is typically reported on Form 2441, not 8832. Most providers will give you a receipt or year-end statement with their tax ID (EIN) and the total amount you paid during the year. Some providers will complete Form W-10 (Dependent Care Provider's Identification and Certification) which gives you their official information for tax purposes. That's what you'll need when completing Form 2441 to claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit. Thanks for catching my error!

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Has anyone actually had success claiming Dependent Care Credit when their ex claimed the child as a dependent? I've been told conflicting things by different preparers.

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Yes! I successfully did this last year. The key is that you must have custody for more than half the nights of the year to claim the Dependent Care Credit, even if your ex claims the child as a dependent due to your agreement. I had to paper file though, because TurboTax kept giving me errors when I tried to enter it this way.

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