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7 One important consideration - make sure you're keeping separate books for each LLC even if they're disregarded entities! I made this mistake and it caused a nightmare during an audit. The IRS still expects you to maintain separate accounting records for each entity to show proper business purpose, even if they're all reported on a single return.
16 Do you use a specific software for keeping separate books for multiple LLCs? I've been using QuickBooks but it gets expensive with multiple companies.
7 I use Stessa for my rental properties - it's specifically designed for real estate and allows you to track multiple properties and entities. It's much more affordable than having separate QuickBooks accounts for each LLC. For non-real estate businesses, I've heard good things about Xero which has better multi-entity functionality at a lower price point than QuickBooks. The key is making sure you have clean, separate financial statements for each LLC that clearly show income, expenses, assets and liabilities, regardless of which software you use.
9 Just a heads up - check your state requirements too! While the federal government might treat your property LLCs as disregarded entities, some states require separate filing fees or franchise taxes for each LLC regardless of tax status. California, for example, charges an $800 annual fee per LLC, which can add up quickly with your structure.
5 Don't forget that this all assumes you're itemizing deductions rather than taking the standard deduction! With the standard deduction at $13,850 for single filers and $27,700 for married filing jointly in 2023, many people don't benefit from itemizing anymore unless they have very high mortgage interest, state taxes, or charitable contributions. Make sure your total itemized deductions (including this margin interest) exceed your standard deduction amount, otherwise all this calculation work won't actually save you anything on your taxes.
11 Great point! I actually messed this up last year. Spent hours tracking investment interest and other itemized deductions only to have my tax software automatically take the standard deduction because it was higher. Felt like such a waste of time.
5 Excellent reminder! To add a bit more detail - even if you can't benefit from the deduction this year because you're taking the standard deduction, you should still complete Form 4952 to establish your carryforward amount for future years when you might itemize. Also worth noting that if you're in a high-tax state like California, New York, or New Jersey, you're more likely to benefit from itemizing since state and local tax payments (though capped at $10,000) plus your margin interest might push you over the standard deduction threshold.
15 Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're not running afoul of the "investment purpose" requirement. The IRS requires that margin loans be used specifically for investment purposes to be deductible. If you're using margin for personal expenses (like buying a car or paying for a vacation), that portion of the interest isn't deductible as investment interest. I learned this the hard way after an audit where I had to prove my margin loans were used to purchase securities.
2 Is there a specific way to document this? My brokerage account is kind of a mess with deposits, withdrawals, and margin usage all mixed together throughout the year.
One thing to consider is getting your returns prepared professionally before submitting them. I did my back taxes myself using TurboTax and missed several deductions I could have claimed. A friend had H&R Block do his unfiled returns and they found nearly $4,000 in deductions he missed because he didn't know what to look for. If money is tight, look into the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program or the Tax Counseling for the Elderly (TCE) program which offer free tax preparation for qualifying taxpayers.
Do these free tax prep services handle back taxes from previous years? I thought they only did current year returns during tax season.
You're right that many VITA and TCE sites focus primarily on current year returns during the regular tax season. However, some locations do offer assistance with prior year returns, though this varies by site. You'd need to call specific locations to ask about their services for back tax returns. If free services aren't available for prior years in your area, consider a low-cost tax professional instead of the major chains - often local enrolled agents or CPAs will handle back taxes for much less than the big tax preparation companies, especially for straightforward returns.
Has anyone actually received one of those scary "Intent to Levy" notices after not filing? I'm in a similar boat (3 years unfiled) and just got one of these notices that's freaking me out. Says they can seize property, bank accounts, etc!!!
I got one of those last year. It's scary but doesn't mean they're immediately coming for your stuff. You usually have 30 days to respond, and if you call them and show you're trying to fix the situation by filing and setting up payments, they'll often put a hold on collection activities.
Have you considered putting her on the payroll as an employee instead? If she does legitimate work for the business like managing social media, website updates, administrative tasks, etc., you could pay her a reasonable salary. This would be a business expense for the LLC and earned income for her. Just make sure the compensation is reasonable for the work performed and keep good documentation of hours worked and tasks completed.
Just be careful with this approach. The IRS looks closely at family businesses that suddenly put family members on payroll, especially kids in college who aren't clearly providing services. Make sure you have solid documentation showing actual work being performed, regular payments (not just lump sums), and pay that's comparable to what you'd pay a non-family member.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - tuition payments made directly to an educational institution are exempt from gift tax regardless of amount. So if you're using the money for her education, you could pay her tuition directly to the school without it counting toward your $18k/person annual exclusion. Same goes for medical expenses paid directly to providers. This is separate from the 529 plan stuff mentioned above.
This is extremely helpful! We're paying about $42,000 per year for her tuition and housing. If we pay the school directly, that wouldn't count toward the gift tax limits at all? And we could still give her additional money up to the $36,000 combined annual exclusion for living expenses?
Exactly! Direct payments to educational institutions for tuition are completely exempt from gift tax. However, note that only tuition qualifies - not room and board, books, etc. Those would still fall under your annual gift exclusion. So yes, you could pay her tuition directly to the school (let's say $30,000) with no gift tax implications, PLUS give her up to $36,000 ($18k from each parent) for other expenses. That's a total of $66,000 you could transfer for her benefit without any gift tax reporting requirements.
Natasha Orlova
I'm using Credit Karma Tax (now called Cash App Taxes) this year. Completely free for federal AND state returns, which is what initially drew me to it. Been using it for 3 years and it handles my moderately complex situation well (W-2 income, some stock sales, mortgage interest, etc). The interface is clean and they don't try to upsell you since it's completely free. Only downside is they don't support some more complex situations like multi-state filing or foreign income. But for most people, it's a great option that costs literally nothing.
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Javier Cruz
ā¢Does Cash App Taxes handle self-employment income well? I have a small side business and have been using TurboTax Self-Employed, but it's so expensive.
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Natasha Orlova
ā¢Yes, Cash App Taxes handles self-employment income quite well for straightforward situations. It has all the Schedule C forms and walks you through business deductions, home office calculations, and quarterly estimated payments. Where it might fall short is if you have very complex business situations like inventory management, multiple businesses, or specialized industry deductions. For a side gig bringing in $4k like the original poster mentioned, it would be perfectly fine. I have a photography side business that makes about $12k annually and it works great for me.
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Emma Wilson
Am I the only one still using a local CPA? I tried software for years but kept missing deductions. Started using a local accountant 3 years ago and she finds way more savings than I ever did on my own. I pay $350 for my return which includes a rental property and some self-employment income, but she saves me at least $1500 in taxes compared to when I did it myself. Plus when I got a letter from the IRS questioning something on my 2021 return, she handled everything for no additional fee. The peace of mind alone is worth it to me.
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Malik Thomas
ā¢Do you think a CPA is worth it for simpler returns? I just have a W-2 job and a mortgage, no complicated stuff.
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NeonNebula
ā¢I used a CPA last year and she missed a huge education credit I was eligible for. When I pointed it out she acted like I was being difficult. Going back to doing it myself this year.
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