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Mei Wong

Should I file the delinquent 2022 FBAR asap or wait until I file the 2023 FBAR?

Hey everyone, need some advice from those familiar with international reporting requirements. I'm a US citizen but I also have foreign accounts due to my heritage in Spain. I had a bank account over there with under $10,000 until September 2022. In September 2022, I received approximately $85,000 as a deposit for some family land I was selling. The full transaction didn't complete until 2023, but the buyer put down this substantial deposit in late 2022 (pretty standard practice for land sales there). Looking at the FBAR requirements, I realize I should have filed an FBAR for 2022 since the account exceeded $10,000, but I didn't file one. I don't think I needed to file Form 8938 for 2022 since my total was under the $100,000 threshold for married filing jointly. For 2023, I definitely need to file both FBAR and Form 8938 since my balances were over $100,000 for much of the year. My main question is: Should I file the delinquent 2022 FBAR immediately, or should I just wait and file it at the same time I file my 2023 FBAR (which I plan to do when I submit my tax return in April)? What's the best approach to handle this situation?

You should file the delinquent 2022 FBAR as soon as possible rather than waiting. The FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) has different filing requirements than your tax return, and it's always better to come into compliance with delinquent FBARs immediately when you realize your mistake. The good news is that the IRS generally doesn't impose penalties for late FBARs if you weren't required to file in previous years, you're filing voluntarily before any IRS contact, and you properly reported all income from the foreign accounts on your tax returns. This would qualify under their reasonable cause exception. When filing the late 2022 FBAR, there's a section where you can explain why you're filing late - simply state that you weren't aware of the filing requirement when the account temporarily exceeded $10,000 due to a real estate deposit.

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PixelWarrior

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That makes sense, but what's the actual process for filing a late FBAR? Do I just go through the normal online BSA filing system and check some kind of "late filing" box? And will they automatically assess penalties or do they review each case?

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Yes, you'll file the late FBAR through the BSA E-Filing System, the same way you'd file a current FBAR. When filing, you'll be asked to select a reason for filing late. Choose the option that best explains your situation and provide a brief statement about not being aware of the requirement when your account temporarily exceeded the threshold due to the real estate deposit. The system doesn't automatically assess penalties. The IRS will review late filings, and they generally waive penalties when there's reasonable cause, you've voluntarily filed before any IRS contact, and you've properly reported all taxable income from these accounts on your tax returns.

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How exactly does taxr.ai work? Does it just give general advice or does it actually help with the filing process itself? I have a similar situation with accounts in Germany that I'm not sure if I need to report.

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I'm a bit skeptical of these tax tools. How confident are you that the advice was actually correct? I've been burned before by tax software that wasn't updated for international situations.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Just make sure when you file the delinquent FBAR that you're checking the proper boxes. When I filed late last year, I initially made the mistake of not selecting "Not required to file in prior years" when that applied to my situation. Also be aware that the explanation field has a character limit, so be concise when explaining your reasonable cause.

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Mei Wong

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Thanks for the tips about the character limit. Do you remember roughly how many characters they allow for the explanation? I want to make sure I explain the situation clearly but don't want to write something only to find out it gets cut off.

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Dmitry Petrov

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The explanation field is limited to 750 characters, which isn't much! I recommend drafting your explanation in a text editor first, checking the character count, and then pasting it into the form. Focus on the key facts: you weren't previously required to file because balances were under $10,000, you received a one-time large deposit for a pending real estate transaction in late 2022, you weren't aware this triggered the filing requirement, and you're voluntarily filing as soon as you realized your obligation. That covers the main elements of reasonable cause in a concise way.

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Ava Williams

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Does anyone know if there's a statute of limitations on unfiled FBARs? I'm in a similar situation but it's for 2020, not 2022.

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For FBAR civil penalties, the statute of limitations is generally 6 years from the date of the violation (the due date of the unfiled FBAR). So for a 2020 FBAR that was due in 2021, the statute would typically run until 2027. However, I'd strongly recommend filing the delinquent FBAR as soon as possible regardless. The IRS has streamlined filing procedures for those who weren't aware of filing requirements, but voluntary disclosure before any contact from the IRS is key to avoiding penalties.

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