Should I claim my kids on my W4? Why am I making more money but getting less back in tax refunds?
I'm really confused about my tax situation over the past few years. I've noticed that as my income has gone up, my tax refunds have been getting smaller and smaller. I received two promotions recently - one halfway through last year and another more recently. I've always claimed my two children as dependents and I file as head of household. I also claim them on my W4 at work. Here's how things have changed: - In 2022, I made around $29,000 and received a refund of about $18,500 - In 2023, I made about $52,000 and only got back around $8,000 (they also stopped taking out federal taxes for part of the year) - This year (2024), I made about $70,000 and I'm only getting back $4,000 (again, they stopped withholding federal taxes throughout much of the year) Am I doing something wrong with my W4? Should I not be claiming my kids on it? Can someone please explain why my refund keeps shrinking even though I'm making more money? I'm really confused and could use some help understanding what's happening.
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Riya Sharma
The pattern you're seeing is actually normal, but I understand why it's confusing! Here's what's happening: When you claim your children on your W4, you're telling your employer to withhold LESS tax from each paycheck (since having dependents lowers your tax liability). This means more money in each paycheck, but a smaller refund at tax time. As your income has increased from $29,000 to $70,000, you've moved into higher tax brackets. Each additional dollar you earn in higher brackets gets taxed at a higher rate. Meanwhile, tax credits like the Child Tax Credit don't increase with your income - they stay the same or can even phase out. The periods where they "stopped taking federal taxes" likely happened when your W4 indicated you'd have zero tax liability based on your income and credits at that point. But as your annual income increased, you actually did end up owing taxes. Remember, a smaller refund isn't necessarily bad - it means you had more money in your paychecks throughout the year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan!
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Santiago Diaz
•This makes sense but I'm still confused about something - if claiming kids on my W4 means LESS money withheld, would I get a BIGGER refund if I didn't claim them on my W4? Is that a better strategy?
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Riya Sharma
•If you don't claim your children on your W4, more tax would be withheld from each paycheck throughout the year. This would likely result in a larger refund at tax time, but your paychecks would be smaller all year long. Whether this is "better" depends on your financial situation. If you struggle with saving and prefer a forced savings method that results in a large refund, not claiming them on your W4 might work better for you. However, financially speaking, it's generally better to have proper withholding and receive your money throughout the year rather than waiting for a refund.
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Victoria Brown
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Child Tax Credit changes over these years! The CTC was temporarily expanded in 2021 but then went back to normal in 2022. For 2022, the Child Tax Credit was $2,000 per qualifying child. For 2023, it remained at $2,000 per qualifying child. For 2024, it's $2,000 per qualifying child. So part of why your refund was bigger in 2022 might have been related to CTC advance payments or reconciliation from 2021. Plus, with your income increasing from $29k to $70k, you're in a completely different tax situation now.
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Nathaniel Stewart
•Thank you for mentioning this! I totally forgot about those advance payments we got during COVID. So that was part of why my refund was so big that year? And does the Child Tax Credit start phasing out at some point as you make more money?
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Victoria Brown
•Yes, the advance payments during COVID definitely impacted many people's refunds during that period. If you received advance payments during 2021, your 2022 refund would have been adjusted based on reconciling those payments with the total credit you were eligible for. The Child Tax Credit does indeed begin to phase out at higher income levels. For Head of Household filers in 2024, the phase-out begins at $75,000 of modified adjusted gross income. Since you mentioned making around $70,000, you're approaching but not yet at that threshold. However, if your income continues to increase, you may see the credit begin to reduce in future years.
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Samuel Robinson
Has anyone used TurboTax for this situation? I'm in a similar spot with increasing income and decreasing refunds and wondering if the software can help me understand what's happening.
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Camila Castillo
•I use TurboTax every year and they do have a W-4 calculator tool that can help you figure out the right withholding. It's not as detailed as some dedicated withholding calculators, but it gets the job done. After you finish your return, it usually asks if you want to adjust your withholding for next year based on this year's results.
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Lucas Schmidt
I've been through this exact same situation and it can be really frustrating! What you're experiencing is completely normal tax behavior, but I know it doesn't feel that way when you're used to getting larger refunds. Here's the key thing to understand: your refund isn't actually "shrinking" - what's happening is that you're getting your money throughout the year in your paychecks instead of as one lump sum refund. When you claim your children on your W4, you're essentially telling your employer "I have dependents, so withhold less tax from each paycheck because my final tax liability will be lower." The periods where they stopped withholding federal taxes entirely likely happened because your W4 indicated you'd have little to no tax liability based on your dependents and income at that time. But as your annual income grew, you ended up owing more than initially calculated. Here's what I'd recommend: use the IRS withholding calculator on their website (it's free!) to figure out exactly how much should be withheld based on your current income and family situation. You can then adjust your W4 accordingly - whether you want smaller paychecks with a bigger refund, or keep things as they are with more money in each paycheck. Remember, ideally you want to break even or get a small refund - that means you kept your money working for you all year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan!
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