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Vanessa Chang

Section 179 Deduction: Purchasing truck in 2023 but applying deduction in 2024?

So I just found an amazing deal on a used work truck for my small fabrication business (LLC). Here's my situation - our revenue this year (2023) has been pretty weak because of some contract delays, but next year is looking way better with several big projects lined up. We were planning to wait until January to buy a new work truck so we could take the Section 179 deduction against our higher 2024 income. But yesterday I found exactly what we need - a 3-year old F-350 with low miles and all the specs we want for about $42,000. The dealer says it'll be gone by the weekend for sure (today is December 21st). Is there any way we can purchase this truck now in 2023 but somehow apply the Section 179 deduction to our 2024 taxes instead? We don't want to miss this truck but the deduction would be worth so much more to us next year with our higher income. How exactly does the IRS define when you have to take the deduction? Is there any flexibility on this? The post got cut off...

Madison King

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The short answer is no, you can't split the purchase and deduction across different tax years. Section 179 deductions must be taken in the same tax year that the qualifying property is placed in service. "Placed in service" means when the property is ready and available for its specific use in your business. If you purchase and start using the truck in December 2023, you must take the Section 179 deduction on your 2023 tax return. The IRS doesn't allow you to delay taking the deduction until a future year when it might be more advantageous for your tax situation. Your alternatives might be: 1) Negotiate with the dealer to delay the official purchase and delivery until January, 2) Look into financing options that might minimize your cash outflow now while still securing the truck, or 3) Consider if the regular depreciation schedule might actually work better for your situation than Section 179.

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Julian Paolo

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But what if we buy it and don't actually use it in the business until January? Like if we purchase it but just park it at home and don't put it to work until the new year?

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Madison King

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That's a good question. The key factor is when the vehicle is "placed in service" - not when you purchase it. If you buy the truck in December 2023 but don't actually start using it for business purposes until January 2024, you could potentially claim the Section 179 deduction in 2024. However, this requires clear documentation showing when the vehicle was first used for business. The IRS might scrutinize this situation, especially if the gap between purchase and business use is short. You'd need evidence that the truck wasn't available for business use in 2023 - and simply parking it without using it could be challenged as it was "available" for use.

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Does this work for other business deductions too? I'm trying to figure out a bunch of stuff for my rental properties and contractor expenses.

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Olivia Evans

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Something you might consider - what about buying the truck in December, but doing a sale-leaseback arrangement with a third party until January? That way you secure the vehicle now but technically it's not "placed in service" for your business until 2024. I'm not a tax professional, but I did something similar with some expensive manufacturing equipment a few years ago. Might be worth asking your accountant about.

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Wouldn't that be considered a step transaction by the IRS though? From what I understand they look at the substance of transactions rather than just the form.

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Olivia Evans

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That's a valid concern about step transactions. The IRS can indeed look at the substance over form if they believe transactions were structured solely to avoid taxes. The key difference in what I suggested is that there would be a genuine business purpose - securing a specific needed asset that might not be available later. A properly structured lease with market terms that transfers actual usage rights to another party temporarily could potentially work. But you're right that it would need to be a legitimate arrangement and not just paperwork to achieve a tax outcome.

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Aiden Chen

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Have you considered just taking the Section 179 in 2023 but carrying forward any unused deduction amount to 2024? If your 2023 income is too low to fully utilize the deduction, the unused portion can be carried forward to future tax years. This is often overlooked but might solve your problem.

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Zoey Bianchi

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This is the correct answer right here - I don't know why no one else mentioned it! Section 179 deductions that exceed your business income can be carried forward indefinitely. So if your 2023 business income is too low to fully use the deduction, you can use the remaining amount in 2024.

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