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Understanding Section 179 and bonus depreciation for heavy-duty truck (Silverado/Ram 3500) purchased in 2024

I run a small landscaping business (formed as an LLC) and we're planning to buy a new work truck specifically for hauling our crew and equipment between job sites and towing our trailer with all our tools. This would be 100% business use - everyone has their own personal vehicles. I'm totally confused about how the depreciation works with Section 179 and the bonus depreciation stuff. From what I've read, is bonus depreciation at 60% for 2024? We're looking at either a basic Ram Tradesman Crew 3500 diesel or a Silverado 3500 crew diesel - both around $72k. Nothing fancy, just need something reliable for the business. Our business is doing well this year, with revenue significantly higher than the cost of the truck. What I'm trying to figure out is: how much of that $72k can I actually deduct on our 2024 taxes when we file in 2025? Is there some kind of calculator to figure out the maximum deduction allowed? And if we take the maximum Section 179 and bonus depreciation, can we still continue depreciating the truck until we've deducted the entire $72k, or is it just a one-time thing? Also, I'm assuming we can still deduct all the actual operating expenses (fuel, maintenance, etc.) regardless of how we handle the depreciation, right?

The Section 179 deduction and bonus depreciation can be confusing, but they're great tax benefits for businesses like yours. Let me break it down: For 2024, you can deduct up to $1,220,000 under Section 179 (subject to phase-out thresholds). Your truck definitely qualifies as heavy-duty trucks over 6,000 lbs GVWR are eligible for the full Section 179 deduction. And yes, bonus depreciation is 60% for assets placed in service during 2024. For your $72k truck, you have several options: 1. Take the full $72k as a Section 179 deduction (assuming you have enough business income) 2. Take partial Section 179 and apply bonus depreciation to the remainder 3. Skip Section 179, apply 60% bonus depreciation ($43,200), and depreciate the rest over several years The truck must be used more than 50% for business to qualify for Section 179, but since you're at 100% business use, you're good to go. And yes, regardless of which depreciation method you choose, you can still deduct all operating expenses (fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc.) as they occur.

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Thanks for explaining! So if I understand correctly, we could potentially write off the entire $72k in the first year using section 179? Also, what's the difference between taking section 179 vs. bonus depreciation? Is there any benefit to choosing one over the other?

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Yes, you could potentially write off the entire $72k in the first year using Section 179 as long as you have enough business income to offset it. The main difference is flexibility. Section 179 is elective - you can choose exactly how much to deduct (up to the full amount), while bonus depreciation automatically applies to the entire eligible amount. Section 179 also has business income limitations while bonus depreciation doesn't. Most businesses take Section 179 first (up to the amount they want to deduct or their business income limit), then apply bonus depreciation to any remaining basis, and finally use regular depreciation for anything left.

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I'm skeptical of these online calculators. My accountant told me there are lots of specific rules about vehicle depreciation that most software misses. Does this actually handle the complex rules for trucks over 6,000 lbs specifically?

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - be super careful about the vehicle weight. For Section 179, the truck needs to have a GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) of over 6,000 pounds to qualify for the full deduction. Both the Ram and Chevy 3500s you mentioned easily qualify, but it's something to double-check. Also, keep DETAILED records proving 100% business use. The IRS loves to challenge this on trucks. Keep a mileage log, document all business trips, take photos of the truck at job sites, etc. If you can't prove 100% business use, they'll reduce your deduction proportionally.

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Thanks for the heads-up about documentation! Do you use an app or something specific for tracking mileage? I've been pretty casual about record-keeping so far, but don't want to get caught unprepared if we're audited.

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I use MileIQ for tracking all my business miles - it runs in the background on my phone and automatically logs trips. Then I just swipe right for business or left for personal at the end of each day. Takes literally seconds. For the truck that's 100% business use, I still document each trip in a spreadsheet with date, job site location, business purpose, and miles. I also take photos of the truck at job sites and keep all maintenance records. If you're ever audited, having too much documentation is never a problem, but having too little definitely is. The IRS is particularly skeptical of claims that a vehicle is used 100% for business.

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One thing to consider - depending on how long you plan to keep the truck, sometimes it makes more financial sense to lease rather than buy if you're going to replace it every few years. The tax treatment is completely different. With a lease, you basically just deduct the lease payments as a business expense each year (with some adjustments for "luxury" vehicles, but your trucks should be exempt from that). No need to worry about depreciation schedules or Section 179 recapture if you sell it early.

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This is terrible advice for heavy trucks. Leasing a work truck that's going to get beat up on job sites is almost always more expensive long-term. Plus you miss out on the huge upfront deduction from Section 179. My accountant ran the numbers and buying with Section 179 was WAY better for my cash flow than leasing.

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Great question about heavy truck depreciation! Just to add some clarity to the excellent responses already given - you're right that bonus depreciation is 60% for 2024, and both trucks you're considering (Ram 3500 and Silverado 3500) definitely qualify for full Section 179 treatment since they're over 6,000 lbs GVWR. One key point that might help with your decision: you can actually combine both methods strategically. For example, you could take $50k under Section 179 and then apply 60% bonus depreciation to the remaining $22k (which would be $13,200), giving you a total first-year deduction of $63,200. This approach can be useful if you want to preserve some Section 179 allowance for other equipment purchases later in the year. Also, yes - you can absolutely continue deducting operating expenses (fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc.) regardless of which depreciation method you choose. These are separate from the asset depreciation and are fully deductible as ordinary business expenses. The IRS has Publication 946 which explains all the depreciation rules in detail, but honestly, given the complexity and the amount of money involved, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who can run the numbers based on your specific business income and tax situation. They can help you optimize the timing of deductions to maximize your tax savings.

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This is really helpful, especially the example of combining Section 179 and bonus depreciation! I hadn't thought about preserving some Section 179 allowance for other equipment purchases. We're actually planning to buy a few smaller pieces of equipment later this year (zero-turn mowers, etc.) so that strategic approach makes a lot of sense. One quick follow-up - when you mention consulting with a tax professional, should I be looking for a CPA specifically, or are there other types of tax pros who specialize in small business equipment depreciation? I want to make sure I'm getting advice from someone who really knows this stuff inside and out.

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