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S Corporation Negative Equity - What Are the Tax Consequences?

This year has been rough for my S Corp business. I've had some retained earnings sitting there from previous profitable years, but 2023 was a total disaster profit-wise. I did manage to secure an EIDL loan which kept us afloat (though it's still sitting as debt on my Balance Sheet since it hasn't been forgiven yet). On the personal side, I had to take a couple distributions from the company because my spouse lost their job back in February and we needed some extra cash to cover household expenses. Here's where my equity currently stands: |Equity| | |:--|:--| |3010 Capital Stock|2,000.00| |3100 Shareholder Capital| | |3110 Shareholder Contributions|7,500.00| |3120 Shareholder Distributions|-13,750.00| |Total 3100 Shareholder Capital|-6,250.00| |3200 Retained Earnings|31,875.43| |Net Income|-28,950.22| |Total Equity|-1,324.79| I've realized I'm now in a negative equity position, which I know isn't good. The distributions I took plus the loss for 2023 pushed me into the negative, and I'm worried about the tax implications. I have two specific questions: 1. I understand I shouldn't take distributions exceeding my basis - but does "basis" refer specifically to my Retained Earnings account or the combination of Retained Earnings plus current year Net Income (which is a loss in this case)? 2. Would it make more sense to reclassify one of my distributions (about $4K) as a loan instead of a distribution? My personal cash flow is stable again so I could definitely pay it back to the company if that would help the situation.

Ayla Kumar

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The negative equity situation you're describing is something I see pretty frequently with S Corp owners, especially after tough years. Let me help clarify a few things. Your "basis" is essentially your investment in the company - which includes your capital contributions, plus accumulated earnings, minus previous distributions. The key thing to understand is that basis gets adjusted for the current year's income or loss BEFORE distributions are considered. So when you say you shouldn't take distributions exceeding your basis, that means after your current year's loss has already reduced your basis. Looking at your numbers, your beginning basis was likely around $33,875 (capital + retained earnings). Then the current year loss of approximately $29K reduced it to about $4,925 before distributions. Since you took about $13,750 in distributions, that's why you've gone negative. Tax consequences? Any distributions that exceed your basis are generally treated as capital gains - so you'll likely need to report that excess amount (roughly $8,825 based on your numbers) on your personal return as capital gain. As for your second question - yes, reclassifying part of the distribution as a loan could help, but you'd need proper documentation (promissory note, reasonable interest rate, repayment schedule) to make it legitimate in the eyes of the IRS. Definitely worth discussing with your accountant!

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Thanks for this explanation! So to make sure I understand correctly, my basis at the beginning of the year was $33,875, then got reduced by the $29K loss down to about $4,925, but I took $13,750 in distributions, meaning I exceeded my basis by $8,825 which will be taxed as capital gains? Would it be better to reclassify now (early in 2024) before I file my 2023 taxes, or is it too late since the distributions happened in 2023?

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Ayla Kumar

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Yes, you've got it exactly right about the basis calculation and the excess amount that would be treated as capital gains. It's not too late to reclassify some of the distributions as loans before filing your 2023 taxes. You'd need to create the proper loan documentation (including a reasonable interest rate and repayment schedule) and have it dated prior to filing. Make the corresponding adjustments in your accounting system too. Just make sure everything is well-documented in case of an audit. The IRS looks closely at S Corp owner transactions, so having the proper paperwork is crucial to support the loan characterization.

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Ana Rusula

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One option you might consider is making an additional capital contribution to your S Corp before the end of the tax year to increase your basis. This could potentially offset the excess distribution issue. For example, if you contribute enough capital to cover that negative $8,825 gap, you might avoid having it treated as a capital gain. The timing matters though - it needs to be done before the end of the tax year in question. Since we're in 2024 now, it's too late for your 2023 situation, but something to keep in mind for future planning.

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Is it really too late? I thought S Corp owners could make retroactive capital contributions within 75 days of year-end? Or am I confusing that with something else?

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Ana Rusula

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You're confusing that with the deadline for making S Corp elections (which is 75 days after the start of the tax year) or possibly with retirement plan contributions. For capital contributions to affect your basis for a specific tax year, they generally need to be made during that tax year. There's no special 75-day rule for retroactive capital contributions for S Corps. Once the tax year is closed, your basis is essentially set for distribution purposes. Your best option at this point is likely the loan reclassification approach that others have mentioned, which can be done prior to filing your return. Just make sure you have proper documentation in place.

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Fidel Carson

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Don't forget that PPP loan forgiveness will impact this whole situation too! When your PPP loan is forgiven, it will create tax-exempt income that increases your basis (but doesn't trigger tax). So if your loan gets forgiven in 2024, that would increase your basis for 2024 distribution purposes, but unfortunately wouldn't help with your 2023 negative basis situation.

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Actually, I think you have that wrong. EIDL loans aren't forgivable like PPP loans - they have to be repaid. The OP mentioned an EIDL loan, not PPP.

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Caden Turner

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You're absolutely right to be concerned about the negative equity situation. Based on your numbers, you've exceeded your basis by approximately $8,825, which will indeed be treated as capital gains on your personal return. Here's something important to consider: since you're still early in 2024 and haven't filed your 2023 return yet, you have a few options: 1. **Loan Reclassification**: You mentioned potentially reclassifying $4K as a loan. This could help reduce the excess distribution amount, but you'd need proper documentation (promissory note with reasonable interest rate, repayment terms, etc.) dated before filing. 2. **Shareholder Loan Documentation**: If you go the loan route, make sure it's a legitimate business transaction with proper documentation. The IRS scrutinizes these closely, especially when they're created retroactively. 3. **Consider the timing**: The loan reclassification needs to be done before you file your 2023 return, and it should be reflected in your 2023 books. One thing to keep in mind is that your current negative equity position will also affect any future distributions until you rebuild your basis through future profits or additional capital contributions. I'd strongly recommend consulting with a CPA who specializes in S Corps to ensure you're handling this correctly and have all the proper documentation in place. The tax implications of getting this wrong can be significant.

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Ava Harris

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with something similar in my small consulting S Corp. One question about the loan reclassification - does the interest rate need to be at market rates, or can it be lower since it's essentially a loan from the owner to their own company? Also, is there a minimum repayment period that would be considered reasonable by the IRS? I'm worried about making this look too convenient or artificial, but at the same time, I want to take advantage of this option if it's legitimate. My CPA mentioned something about the applicable federal rate (AFR) but wasn't totally clear on the details.

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Great question about the interest rates! Yes, for the loan to be considered legitimate by the IRS, you should use at least the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR) that was in effect when the loan was made. The AFR is published monthly by the IRS and varies based on the loan term (short-term, mid-term, or long-term). For 2023, the AFR rates were generally in the 4-5% range depending on the term and month. Using a rate below AFR could trigger imputed interest issues and make the IRS question whether it's truly a bona fide loan. As for repayment terms, there's no specific minimum period, but it needs to be reasonable and show genuine intent to repay. I'd suggest at least 2-3 years for anything over a few thousand dollars. The key is making it look like an arm's length transaction - something you'd agree to with an unrelated third party. Make sure to document everything: promissory note, payment schedule, actual payments made, and keep good records. The IRS looks for substance over form, so you want to show this is a real business transaction, not just a way to avoid the excess distribution treatment. @618db9ad3f82 Your CPA should be able to help you find the correct AFR for the specific month and set up the proper documentation.

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Yara Sayegh

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I've been through this exact scenario with my S Corp, and it's definitely stressful when you realize you're in negative equity territory. The advice about reclassifying part of your distributions as a loan is solid, but I want to emphasize how important the documentation is. When I did this, I created a formal promissory note that included: - The principal amount ($4K in your case) - Interest rate at the AFR for the month the original distribution occurred - Monthly payment schedule over 3 years - Personal guarantee (even though you're the owner) - Corporate resolution authorizing the loan The key thing is making sure this looks like a legitimate business transaction. I actually started making the monthly payments immediately after setting up the loan documentation, which helped demonstrate to my CPA (and potentially the IRS) that this was a real obligation, not just a paper transaction to avoid taxes. Also, don't forget that once you reclassify part of the distribution as a loan, you'll need to report the interest income on your personal return and the company can deduct the interest expense. It's a small additional complexity but worth mentioning. The good news is that this approach should reduce your excess distribution from about $8,825 down to around $4,825, which will save you some money on the capital gains treatment.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was looking for! Thank you for sharing your experience with the documentation process. I'm definitely going to follow your template for the promissory note. One follow-up question - when you say you started making monthly payments immediately, did you actually transfer cash from your personal account back to the business account? I'm wondering about the practical mechanics of this since the "loan" would essentially be me paying myself back through my own company. Also, did you run into any issues with your bank or bookkeeper about these transactions? I'm planning to meet with my CPA next week to set this up properly, but I want to make sure I understand all the moving parts before we discuss it. The interest income/expense piece is something I hadn't considered - good catch on that detail!

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